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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:33 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:26 pm
That's my point though - Keane signed for £3m odd, sold for £30, Tarkowski signed for £3m, might be sold for £35m+, Pope, McNeil - all will bring in significant funds. We're a selling club, I have no problem with it if the money is reinvested in the squad. The problem with the last couple of years is we seem to have moved from promising players and blooding them in slowly to come in when someone is sold, to signing experienced pros who short term offer us something, but long term offer no resale value. The transfer market seems to move on every window so each time we bring in a Stephens etc it's making things even harder next year. We have to find a way to sign younger players or it'll bite us in the backside eventually.
The difference being that the players you mentioned were signed when we were in the Championship. It’s a lot easier to blood players at that level, especially when you already have one of the strongest squads at that level. We’re in a different league now, in more ways than one. That said, I agree somewhat with your last sentence.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:33 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:26 pm
Just to clarify. You don't think it's a good signing?
No. It's obviously a bad signing.

I'm usually pretty positive, feel free to look at my previous posts, but this signing would show a complete lack of strategy in this window.

I had faith we were holding out until later in the window to make some genuinely decent signings. What was the point of waiting until now to make these kind of signings?

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:35 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:26 pm
That's my point though - Keane signed for £3m odd, sold for £30, Tarkowski signed for £3m, might be sold for £35m+, Pope, McNeil - all will bring in significant funds. We're a selling club, I have no problem with it if the money is reinvested in the squad. The problem with the last couple of years is we seem to have moved from promising players and blooding them in slowly to come in when someone is sold, to signing experienced pros who short term offer us something, but long term offer no resale value. The transfer market seems to move on every window so each time we bring in a Stephens etc it's making things even harder next year. We have to find a way to sign younger players or it'll bite us in the backside eventually.
We've signed six young players this summer.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:36 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:33 pm
The difference being that the players you mentioned were signed when we were in the Championship. It’s a lot easier to blood players at that level, especially when you already have one of the strongest squads at that level. We’re in a different league now, in more ways than one. That said, I agree somewhat with your last sentence.
Both Keane and Pope were signed amd blooded whilst we were in the Premier League.

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Post by NickBFC » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:37 pm

levraiclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:31 pm
Isn't this what the Academy is for?
Yes, but Keane, Tarks, Pope etc weren't signed for the u23's so balance is needed. Who knows if any in the academy will be good enough, but I think we need to be bringing in younger players who are good enough for the 1st team squad too (not necessarily starters) - we need a conveyor belt of players, as unless this mystery takeover talk is genuine, it's the only way we'll survive long term at this level.

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Post by BenWickes » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:37 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:33 pm
No. It's obviously a bad signing.

I'm usually pretty positive, feel free to look at my previous posts, but this signing would show a complete lack of strategy in this window.

I had faith we were holding out until later in the window to make some genuinely decent signings. What was the point of waiting until now to make these kind of signings?
I was being facetious... ;)

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:37 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:21 pm
Stephens has proven he is good enough to walk into our starting eleven? He's not good enough to walk into Brighton's starting eleven and we finish above them every single season.

He's not a signing for the starting eleven, if he was it'd frankly be even more pathetic, he's for depth. Unfortunately he's depth that will decline physically and technically whilst simultaneously stopping us signing someone who may actually develop to be good enough to start in the future by draining large wages for 2 to 3 years until he walks away for nothing and we are back at square one (minus his wages).

We should be looking at signings like Tarkowski, Westwood, Taylor and Brownhill. Players that weren't good enough to start but could do a job when needed and had time to settle in, develop into players that can start week in week out and would demand good fees if we sold them.

Stephens is another Lennon, Hart type signing. We plead poverty then throw money away like this - self fulfilling prophecy.
If a post summed up how I feel about our dealings over the past couple of seasons this is it.

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Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:27 pm
How's that a problem? :lol:

That's what we want.

Give me a player that plays well, develops and sells for tens of millions more than they cost us over an older one who "does a job" for a bit then eventually walks away for nothing after months of not playing.

Or put simply: Who was the better signing, Pope or Hart?
It's not a problem, but we have to accept we can never build for the future as some hope we can. As soon as we get any talented players in our team we have to accept it's pointless to think that we can develop a side long term.

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Post by NickBFC » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:35 pm
We've signed six young players this summer.
Any of them going to be involved with the first team squad regularly this season? If they do then I'll be happy if they prove to be good enough. I am talking about players who if needed, will be able to step up shorter term. The model has been failing for a couple of seasons - we may yet turn it around but I'm not convinced.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:42 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:35 pm
We've signed six young players this summer.
Dont be forgetting the 15 who have signed for the Under 18s

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:43 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 pm
Any of them going to be involved with the first team squad regularly this season? If they do then I'll be happy if they prove to be good enough. I am talking about players who if needed, will be able to step up shorter term. The model has been failing for a couple of seasons - we may yet turn it around but I'm not convinced.
I don't know if they are going to be involved, but developing these players is the way forward for our club. Young players who are ready for the Premier League straight away are in high demand and therefore outside our budget constraints.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:45 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:36 pm
Both Keane and Pope were signed amd blooded whilst we were in the Premier League.
You’re quite right, but we were relegated with Keane thrown into the side in the PL. I would say he developed a lot in that Championship winning season that followed.

We signed Keane for £2m, that also demonstrates what a totally different game we’re playing today. You couldn’t pick up a young talent like that for ten times the amount now, which is the problem.

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Post by DCWat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:46 pm

What a negative so and so. He should be supporting the team, calls himself a fan, has no understanding of what position we are in.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 pm
It's not a problem, but we have to accept we can never build for the future as some hope we can. As soon as we get any talented players in our team we have to accept it's pointless to think that we can develop a side long term.
...

:lol:

So you'd rather sign players that get worse and eventually leave for nothing than players thay get better and leave for tens of millions more than they were bought for?

Are surplus 31 year olds from lesser clubs developing a side long term? Developing the club?

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Post by DCWat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:50 pm

For a small club, the model has to be a mixture of experience and promising youth.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:45 pm
You’re quite right, but we were relegated with Keane thrown into the side in the PL. I would say he developed a lot in that Championship winning season that followed.

We signed Keane for £2m, that also demonstrates what a totally different game we’re playing today. You couldn’t pick up a young talent like that for ten times the amount now, which is the problem.
Bogle and Lowe just cost Sheffield United roughly £3.5m each.

Young talents may cost a bit more than they did in the past but they also sell for more. But guess what, surplus 33 year olds don't.
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:47 pm
...

:lol:

So you'd rather sign players that get worse and eventually leave for nothing than players thay get better and leave for tens of millions more than they were bought for?

Are surplus 31 year olds from lesser clubs developing a side long term? Developing the club?
You sound like a broken record pal!

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:54 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:51 pm
Bogle and Lowe just cost Sheffield United roughly £3.5m each.

Young talents may cost a bit more than they did in the past but they also sell for more. But guess what, surplus 33 year olds don't.
But Bogle and Lowe are still only worth £3.5m each. It’s too early to say whether those signings will be in any way comparable with Michael Keane.

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Post by claret3561 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:57 pm

What a negative so and so. He should be supporting the team, calls himself a fan, has no understanding of what position we are in


Ok mr garlick, whatever you say. Nobody knows what position were in because were never told. I think for the first time ever i actually agree 100 per cent with Chris boden

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:58 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:54 pm
But Bogle and Lowe are still only worth £3.5m each. It’s too early to say whether those signings will be in any way comparable with Michael Keane.
Aye. But they have a chance. Which is more than can be said for sigings like Stephens who are only going in the other direction.

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Post by DCWat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:58 pm

claret3561 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:57 pm
What a negative so and so. He should be supporting the team, calls himself a fan, has no understanding of what position we are in


Ok mr garlick, whatever you say. Nobody knows what position were in because were never told. I think for the first time ever i actually agree 100 per cent with Chris boden
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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:00 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm
You sound like a broken record pal!
Sorry. I didn't realise one view was allowed to be repeatedly stated but the opposing one wasn't.

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Post by levraiclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:00 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:37 pm
Yes, but Keane, Tarks, Pope etc weren't signed for the u23's so balance is needed. Who knows if any in the academy will be good enough, but I think we need to be bringing in younger players who are good enough for the 1st team squad too (not necessarily starters) - we need a conveyor belt of players, as unless this mystery takeover talk is genuine, it's the only way we'll survive long term at this level.
Since then we have changed the model and invested in upgrading the Academy, possibly because clubs are no longer letting promising youngsters go on the cheap.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:03 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:58 pm
Aye. But they have a chance. Which is more than can be said for sigings like Stephens who are only going in the other direction.
Yes, but it’s fairly obvious that we’re not exactly in a great position to be taking chances. We’ve not got a lot of cash and we can’t afford to carry a large squad with surplus players.

Stephens strengthens our squad, undoubtedly. He’s not going to set pulses racing but he improves us. A 20 year old without a single PL minute to his name may go on to prove a great investment, but would do little more to improve our current situation than the likes of Benson or Dunne.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:04 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:00 pm
Sorry. I didn't realise one view was allowed to be repeatedly stated but the opposing one wasn't.
You sound like a broken record pal!

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Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:08 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:47 pm
...

:lol:

So you'd rather sign players that get worse and eventually leave for nothing than players thay get better and leave for tens of millions more than they were bought for?

Are surplus 31 year olds from lesser clubs developing a side long term? Developing the club?
The point being we have to accept that we will chop and change nearly every season so we can't really plan for the future too much. Yes, it's good to look to the future, but if it means getting experienced players in to ensure our survival this season then so be it.

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:11 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:59 pm
I’d say he’s pretty rigid.

The type of players he goes for are the one that cost a premium and are often way over priced.
We are learning he has very little say in the signing. So you can’t say that HE goes for any type of player. He gets what he’s given.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:03 pm
Yes, but it’s fairly obvious that we’re not exactly in a great position to be taking chances. We’ve not got a lot of cash and we can’t afford to carry a large squad with surplus players.

Stephens strengthens our squad, undoubtedly. He’s not going to set pulses racing but he improves us. A 20 year old without a single PL minute to his name may go on to prove a great investment, but would do little more to improve our current situation than the likes of Benson or Dunne.
My point exactly for the most part. I agree we can't afford to throw money away.

We know that's all we're doing with Stephens. He'll never sell for more than we pay for him. He'll never be anything more than 4th choice centre mid here. He doesn't improve the starting eleven. He'll be surplus in a few months time and that's all he'll be from then on. For 2 to 3 years. On £30k+ a week.

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Post by Safron » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:21 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:14 pm
My point exactly for the most part. I agree we can't afford to throw money away.

We know that's all we're doing with Stephens. He'll never sell for more than we pay for him. He'll never be anything more than 4th choice centre mid here. He doesn't improve the starting eleven. He'll be surplus in a few months time and that's all he'll be from then on. For 2 to 3 years. On £30k+ a week.
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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:22 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:08 pm
The point being we have to accept that we will chop and change nearly every season so we can't really plan for the future too much. Yes, it's good to look to the future, but if it means getting experienced players in to ensure our survival this season then so be it.
Yes we all accept that.

Is it easier to chop and change in the future if you're throwing money away on surplus, ageing/declining players?

Do we lack experience?

Does Stephens really ensure survival?

Is he any better than Westwood, Brownhill or Cork?

Be honest, the answer to all the questions is no.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:23 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:11 pm
We are learning he has very little say in the signing. So you can’t say that HE goes for any type of player. He gets what he’s given.
If you believe that, then you will believe anything.
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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:25 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:14 pm
My point exactly for the most part. I agree we can't afford to throw money away.

We know that's all we're doing with Stephens. He'll never sell for more than we pay for him. He'll never be anything more than 4th choice centre mid here. He doesn't improve the starting eleven. He'll be surplus in a few months time and that's all he'll be from then on. For 2 to 3 years. On £30k+ a week.
We've tried the alternative approach, which is to pay big money (for us) on players like Gibson or Vydra who is around the same level as the current squad who adds depth to the bench but doesn't really improve the team. The player ends up unhappy and we end up with a bloated squad and a big wage bill.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 pm

A bloated squad ??

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:28 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 pm
A bloated squad ??
Yes, that's what we'd have if we kept buying players like Gibson and Vydra who aren't quite good enough to displace those that are in the team. Fortunatley we seem to have abandoned that approach.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:29 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:14 pm
My point exactly for the most part. I agree we can't afford to throw money away.

We know that's all we're doing with Stephens. He'll never sell for more than we pay for him. He'll never be anything more than 4th choice centre mid here. He doesn't improve the starting eleven. He'll be surplus in a few months time and that's all he'll be from then on. For 2 to 3 years. On £30k+ a week.
I don’t know how you can claim that signing Stephens would be throwing money away. Do you agree that in an ideal world we would have 2 players to fill each position? If so then somebody needs to be our fourth choice midfielder and that person isn’t going to work for free.

Simple question, if Westwood picks up an injury in training this week who would you rather partnered Brownhill against Southampton. A young player without any PL experience (ie Benson, or a young player signed from the Championship), or Dale Stephens?
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Post by Reecey1987 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:31 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:29 pm
I don’t know how you can claim that signing Stephens would be throwing money away. Do you agree that in an ideal world we would have 2 players to fill each position? If so then somebody needs to be our fourth choice midfielder and that person isn’t going to work for free.

Simple question, if Westwood picks up an injury in training this week who would you rather partnered Brownhill against Southampton. A young player without any PL experience (Benson, or a young player signed from the Championship), or Dale Stephens?
I dont think Stephens is even fit to play at the minute . Also he will have to go through a mini pre season and get his fitness levels up thats required

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:32 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:28 pm
Yes, that's what we'd have if we kept buying players like Gibson and Vydra who aren't quite good enough to displace those that are in the team. Fortunatley we seem to have abandoned that approach.
Id love to ask Sean Dyche if he's had a bloated squad at any time over the last 8 years

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:33 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:31 pm
I dont think Stephens is even fit to play at the minute . Also he will have to go through a mini pre season and get his fitness levels up thats required
He played for Brighton last week in the League Cup

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Post by Erasmus » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:34 pm

I've always thought Stephens is a very good player who would be a good fit for Burnley. It seems that Brighton's owners might be falling into the trap of thinking they can move up a notch and become a free-flowing attacking side. And perhaps it will work for them but there's other teams tried that and come unstuck with it. The point is that Stephens doesn't really fit with those aspirations, which perhaps explains why they are willing to let a very good player go.

We just don't have the money to compete for the very best younger players who can come in at Premier League level and we don't have the money to spend on less good young players who might increase in value. At the present time, we have to concentrate on this season and perhaps the next, and I would say that Stephens will help with that to a considerable extent.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:34 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:33 pm
He played for Brighton last week in the League Cup
Did he not go off injured or pick an injury up . Im sure I read that he was carrying an injury

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm

Why are we writing off Stephens. There is no-one as frustrated as me over the lack of signings, but one option is to do nothing and up to this news it was starting to look that would be the case, with the possibility of Tarks going

Still a glimmer of hope Tarks remains at least until January. For all we know Stephens might be more suited to us than Cork who I feel is coming to his twilight years in a League that now has super athletic and physical midfielders. He now gets dispossessed too easily and pushed over (remember the home game v Leicester). He got bundled on the half way mark and they went on to get their goal. We have done very well to get 2 or 3 good years out of him-he had lost his place at Swansea.

If Tarks resumes in the side ,he is a collossus to us, and as such with Long next to him, with Jay and Wood playing well together, and with Mee and Barnes back in contention, I would then feel we could go toe to toe (as Coyle used to say) with the best in the Division. If we could find a centre half as third choice and maybe a loan right sided player then we would be quite a force

Garlick must feel pressurised now. The media, the manager and the fans are putting pressure on him. Hopefully he heard the comments of Shearer and Wright last night. Chris Boden's article tonight was perfectly timed and might just force the issue. Lets hope
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Post by Zlatan » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:54 pm
But Bogle and Lowe are still only worth £3.5m each. It’s too early to say whether those signings will be in any way comparable with Michael Keane.
In reality we have a good ability to “polish a turd” and make normal players look good and better players look exceptional - mainly because we do the basics very well

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:40 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:11 pm
We are learning he has very little say in the signing. So you can’t say that HE goes for any type of player. He gets what he’s given.
Nah, he’s openly said he prefers to sign players he can ‘do his homework on’

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:44 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:29 pm
I don’t know how you can claim that signing Stephens would be throwing money away. Do you agree that in an ideal world we would have 2 players to fill each position? If so then somebody needs to be our fourth choice midfielder and that person isn’t going to work for free.

Simple question, if Westwood picks up an injury in training this week who would you rather partnered Brownhill against Southampton. A young player without any PL experience (ie Benson, or a young player signed from the Championship), or Dale Stephens?
6 months ago Brownhill was just that, a young player signed from the Championship without any PL experience. He's been quality since coming into the side.

So I'll take option 1 please.

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:44 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:32 pm
Id love to ask Sean Dyche if he's had a bloated squad at any time over the last 8 years
I didn't say we have had a bloated squad.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:45 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:34 pm
Did he not go off injured or pick an injury up . Im sure I read that he was carrying an injury
Youre right, he went off 5 minutes from time, with Brighton 4-0 up and having used all their substitutes.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:00 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:44 pm
6 months ago Brownhill was just that, a young player signed from the Championship without any PL experience. He's been quality since coming into the side.

So I'll take option 1 please.
And Brownhill is clearly still learning a lot every week, which is why it’s great that he’s got an experienced head in Westwood alongside him. I would be too keen on pairing Brownhill with a Premier League debutant in our midfield, and I’m surprised that anyone would.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:00 pm
And Brownhill is clearly still learning a lot every week, which is why it’s great that he’s got an experienced head in Westwood alongside him. I would be too keen on pairing Brownhill with a Premier League debutant in our midfield, and I’m surprised that anyone would.
Brownhill already has over 150 games at Championship level and above and was club captain at 23 years old. I reckon he'd be fine being the experienced member of a midfield partnership.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:12 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:09 pm
Brownhill already has over 150 games at Championship level and above and was club captain at 23 years old. I reckon he'd be fine being the experienced member of a midfield partnership.
He still looks very raw at this level, in my opinion.

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Post by welsbyswife » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:19 pm

People talk some nonsense. "Looks raw at this level". Based on what? Lazy thing to say. Ok, the standard is higher but it's not a different sport. The lad knows how to play and you don't just lose that because you step up a league.

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