BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER/AUTUMN 2020 (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

[claretlegend]

He's only on a extra 20k per week than wilson which is surprising for extra class & experience.

https://www.sportekz.com/football/liver ... -salaries/

Surely Wilson isn't on 60k a week. Looks like rubbish to me.

[claretonthecoast1882]

He's only on a extra 20k per week than wilson which is surprising for extra class & experience.

https://www.sportekz.com/football/liver ... -salaries/

If those figures are correct Nathaniel Phillips has done well for himself 70k a week and never played a game for LIverpool

Grujic has done well too 85k a week, 5th season at Anfield and less than 10 league games.

[Ric_C]

Even if we were trying to bring Roca to the club which I don’t think we are , why wouldn’t we accommodate him? Cork may be out for a considerable amount of time - plus we have an ageing midfield barring Brownhill as far as starters are concerned , also would give us scope to change shape during games having more
Options in the centre ! Defending a lead ? Go to 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 whichever way you’d like to look at it .

Exactly

[Jakubclaret]

If those figures are correct Nathaniel Phillips has done well for himself 70k a week and never played a game for LIverpool

Grujic has done well too 85k a week, 5th season at Anfield and less than 10 league games.

I know it's crazy it's good money if you can get it, no wonder some of these surplus fringe players aren't keen to move from the big clubs effectively sitting on your backside & watching the money roll in.

[FactualFrank]

More of the same on Wilson

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/10/ ... ts-report/

Well it suggests Liverpool are confident of shipping Wilson out, and, as things stand we're the only one to place a bid. Perhaps it means we'll eventually get our man, and things aren't too far away.

I read I think yesterday that the deal was looking to be a few days away, so perhaps over the weekend is when it will happen.

Hope so - Wilson and JBG vying for the RM spot would represent solid competition.

[Burnley1989]

I think you'll find that Robbie Blake was a Premier League Robbie Blake

I suppose, could have been much better if he wasn’t such a lazy get and enjoyed his food & drink.

[Andreshotboots]

Seems to have been a dramatic switch in the Gaffers interviews over the last week or so. From constantly publically saying we need bodies, he's now gone to we may only need one or two when players are fit. I know perhaps some of the players have come back quicker than expected but to me the change has been noticeable. My opinion is he's either shutting his trap and not wanting to bite the hand that feeds him anymore,as both Palace and Villa, both potential, and touted jobs for him have made good starts to the campaign so he knows he's not going anywhere soon, or he knows there is potential money coming into the club and he's maybe been told he will be the manager if it happens.

[Goobs]

Balls to it. Sign both. One on one wing, one on the other and Dwight in a free role in a 5 man midfield behind Woody.

[Cubanclaret]

Think personal terms might be tricky with Wilson.
Curtis Jones on a season long loan might be prudent. He looks like an excellent player and gets paid £7500 according to the wages table.

Terence Trent is certainly due a wage hike when compared with his team mates. Not sure how they justify paying him £30k less per week than the new reserve Left back.

[Gordaleman]

These are hard times for all businesses, including football clubs, and it seems that even the big ones have to be careful. Apparently, Liverpool are only paying 10% of the transfer fee for Jota this season.


Ste Carson
@sjrcarson
Liverpool have agreed a deal with Wolves for Jota at around £45m, with the Reds paying just 10% over the next 12 months, while Hoever is going in the other direction for £9m.

Unreal business.

[Burnley1989]

These are hard times for all businesses, including football clubs, and it seems that even the big ones have to be careful. Apparently, Liverpool are only paying 10% of the transfer fee for Jota this season.


Ste Carson
@sjrcarson
Liverpool have agreed a deal with Wolves for Jota at around £45m, with the Reds paying just 10% over the next 12 months, while Hoever is going in the other direction for £9m.

Unreal business.

It’s odd from Wolves, how can you have an asset of that value for 12 months and only pay 10% in this sort of market. Really strange one

[Duffer_]

It’s odd from Wolves, how can you have an asset of that value for 12 months and only pay 10% in this sort of market. Really strange one

It is because the transfer fee for Hoever (£9m?) is netted, so they are paying c£5m cash but transferring a third of the total value of Jota in year one (£14m = Hoever plus cash). Still sharp in terms of cash flow but not quite as strange as it looks at first glance.

[Reecey1987]

Think personal terms might be tricky with Wilson.
Curtis Jones on a season long loan might be prudent. He looks like an excellent player and gets paid £7500 according to the wages table.

Terence Trent is certainly due a wage hike when compared with his team mates. Not sure how they justify paying him £30k less per week than the new reserve Left back.

I should of imagined we would of looked into personal terms with it being so late in the window

[Duffer_]

Regards Hoever - I think Wolves were told to just 'suck it up'

[Gordaleman]

It’s odd from Wolves, how can you have an asset of that value for 12 months and only pay 10% in this sort of market. Really strange one

If Liverpool need to buy players on the drip like that, imagine how hard it must be for smaller clubs like Burnley.

I think fans have to accept that we are going through hard times, and it's only because our board has been prudent in the past, that we are still trading in a relatively successful way.

[boatshed bill]

Regards Hoever - I think Wolves were told to just 'suck it up'

Decent sweeper

[Zlatan]

Decent sweeper

you're thinking of Ewbank

[jojomk1]

Curtis Jones on a season long loan might be prudent. He looks like an excellent player and gets paid £7500 according to the wages table.

Have mentioned this guy several times - a really good player who could do an excellent job in cm

[claretandy]

If Liverpool need to buy players on the drip like that, imagine how hard it must be for smaller clubs like Burnley.

I think fans have to accept that we are going through hard times, and it's only because our board has been prudent in the past, that we are still trading in a relatively successful way.

As it has been explained further up, they aren't buying on the drip, they've used the value of Hoever, and topped up the rest to make the first payment.

[Chester Perry]

It is because the transfer fee for Hoever (£9m?) is netted, so they are paying c£5m cash but transferring a third of the total value of Jota in year one (£14m = Hoever plus cash). Still sharp in terms of cash flow but not quite as strange as it looks at first glance.

Wolves can also book the full fee in the accounts - which is very significant as incoming transfers will be a single years amortisation - gives them a lot of leeway from an FFP perspective - especially at UEFA where they would have had to reduced the squad this year if they had qualified as a result of a breach

[Gordaleman]

I'll just throw this into the mix ref Harry Wilson.

I've been waiting to talk to a friend of mine who is a Liverpool fan. In fact, prior to Covid, he hasn't missed a game, home or away for more than 10 years. (That includes European games.) I've just done so, and he says that Wilson is a superb player but because of the quality above him, he just can't get near the first eleven.

He said that if we get him for less than £20 million, we will be stealing him. Let's hope we get him then.

[Firthy]

I think the best we can hope for now is Wilson or alternative to him. I think SD will go with Long and Dunne as back up CB's and we already have a midfielder in Stephens so a right winger and keep hold of our current players is going to be about our lot.

[FactualFrank]

I think the best we can hope for now is Wilson or alternative to him. I think SD will go with Long and Dunne as back up CB's and we already have a midfielder in Stephens so a right winger and keep hold of our current players is going to be about our lot.

I've been thinking about this and reckon there's a chance of us getting Wilson over the weekend and then Dyche going for a Championship player before the 15th October deadline - more than likely a CB.

[BenWickes]

I'll just throw this into the mix ref Harry Wilson.

I've been waiting to talk to a friend of mine who is a Liverpool fan. In fact, prior to Covid, he hasn't missed a game, home or away for more than 10 years. (That includes European games.) I've just done so, and he says that Wilson is a superb player but because of the quality above him, he just can't get near the first eleven.

He said that if we get him for less than £20 million, we will be stealing him. Let's hope we get him then.

A Liverpool supporting mate of mine says he would be ideal for us and also rates him highly. Thankfully we've all had some exposure to what Wilson can do via TV and seeing him play against us.
I say this as he also rated Jordan Ibe to be better than Raheem Sterling...

[Gordaleman]

A Liverpool supporting mate of mine says he would be ideal for us and also rates him highly. Thankfully we've all had some exposure to what Wilson can do via TV and seeing him play against us.
I say this as he also rated Jordan Ibe to be better than Raheem Sterling...

Perhaps your mate is an armchair supporter, whereas mine attended every game for ten years pre Covid and has seen him play rather more than most.

Time will tell whether or not he's as good as is being said.

[BenWickes]

I've been thinking about this and reckon there's a chance of us getting Wilson over the weekend and then Dyche going for a Championship player before the 15th October deadline - more than likely a CB.

Tend to agree with that. Contradicting reports to the Echo suggest that Liverpool do want closer to £20 million but also want him off their books to balance up money spent on Alacantra and Jota. They reckon they'll accept a bid if it's slightly better than currently on offer.
Also think we'll be taking advantage of the extended window for league clubs.

[summitclaret]

I've been thinking about this and reckon there's a chance of us getting Wilson over the weekend and then Dyche going for a Championship player before the 15th October deadline - more than likely a CB.

I think it will be a big mistake not to get a youngish cb by 15 October. Someone to replace Tarks within the next 12 months. Maybe Worrell will pass a medical by then. I think we saw last night that Kev should be 4th choice at best.

[leightonjameslegend]

Wales online reported 4 hours ago, latest bid £12m + 4m in add ons. They are quoting Liverpool running out of time and at the moment we are the only bidder. Maybe 2 Million more upfront with a Buy Back clause could get the deal done.
If Tarky stays then maybe Dunne or even Thomas is seen as his long term replacement. Honestly think either player playing alongside MEE would look good. Can see one or both being loaned out.

[FactualFrank]

Wales online reported 4 hours ago, latest bid £12m + 4m in add ons. They are quoting Liverpool running out of time and at the moment we are the only bidder. Maybe 2 Million more upfront with a Buy Back clause could get the deal done.
If Tarky stays then maybe Dunne or even Thomas is seen as his long term replacement. Honestly think either player playing alongside MEE would look good. Can see one or both being loaned out.

I wouldn't accept a buy-back clause. A sell-on % clause though would be fine, if they insist.

[tiger76]

Wales online reported 4 hours ago, latest bid £12m + 4m in add ons. They are quoting Liverpool running out of time and at the moment we are the only bidder. Maybe 2 Million more upfront with a Buy Back clause could get the deal done.
If Tarky stays then maybe Dunne or even Thomas is seen as his long term replacement. Honestly think either player playing alongside MEE would look good. Can see one or both being loaned out.

Well if we're the only bidder that plays into our hands, because Liverpool will need to decide whether they accept a slightly lower offer than they originally wanted, or risk getting nothing for Wilson in this window, also they'll need to get some fringe players off the books, so I'm reasonably confident we'll get this one over the line, if no-one comes in at the 11th hour.

If we keep hold of Tarks that'll be a massive boost, him and Mee as a partnership are our rock, and if they play the majority of the season, I can see us picking up enough points to ensure another season at this level, and that's the most important thing for us.

[summitclaret]

Fair comment but we need some sort of attacking threat on the rhs. Without JBG, we have none.

[ClaretAL]

Well if we're the only bidder that plays into our hands, because Liverpool will need to decide whether they accept a slightly lower offer than they originally wanted, or risk getting nothing for Wilson in this window, also they'll need to get some fringe players off the books, so I'm reasonably confident we'll get this one over the line, if no-one comes in at the 11th hour.

If we keep hold of Tarks that'll be a massive boost, him and Mee as a partnership are our rock, and if they play the majority of the season, I can see us picking up enough points to ensure another season at this level, and that's the most important thing for us.

Or it could work the other way where a club is trying to buy a winger but struggling so at the last minute gazump us and take Wilson.

[Socrates]

Perhaps your mate is an armchair supporter, whereas mine attended every game for ten years pre Covid and has seen him play rather more than most.

Time will tell whether or not he's as good as is being said.

Played one game for Liverpool has Harry Wilson.

One.

In the FA Cup. Off the bench.

I don’t care how much Liverpool he’s watched over the last decade. If that’s his basis for his opinion on Wilson then it’s a small sample size.

[tiger76]

Or it could work the other way where a club is trying to buy a winger but struggling so at the last minute gazump us and take Wilson.

It could that's why I said if no-one comes in at the 11th hour, ideally we'd get this sorted over the weekend if we're serious about Wilson, leaving it until deadline day is risky, but we may have no choice in the matter, I presume Harry Wilson is interested in a move to TM, otherwise what would be the point of us chasing him.

[jojomk1]

Why would we be the only club after him if he is so good ?

[Quicknick]

Why would we be the only club after him if he is so good ?

How do you know we are the only club?

[jrgbfc]

There was talk of Leeds being after him a few weeks ago but that all seems to have gone quiet.

[jrgbfc]

Think personal terms might be tricky with Wilson.
Curtis Jones on a season long loan might be prudent. He looks like an excellent player and gets paid £7500 according to the wages table.

Terence Trent is certainly due a wage hike when compared with his team mates. Not sure how they justify paying him £30k less per week than the new reserve Left back.

No way Liverpool would let Jones go to come and sit on our bench. He'll probably get more action staying at Liverpool and playing in the cup games.

[Long Time Lurker]

There was talk of Leeds being after him a few weeks ago but that all seems to have gone quiet.

According to the tittle tattle media Bielsa didn't think he was suitable for them.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2020/09/blogs/ ... r-for-him/

I've just added to the Harry Wilson thread with my own thoughts on why that might be the case. Personally, I'm hoping that we didn't spend a club record fee on him as " a statement of intent ", because unless he radically changes the way that he players and develops his right foot I can't see him being an asset on our right wing. He could even turn out to be an expensive liability in respect to our overall team dynamic.

Good technical player, too lightweight for the EPL and a very unusual choice for us - given the way that we set up and play.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I am sure you can offer the club a far better player for less money and less wages

[jojomk1]

According to the tittle tattle media Bielsa didn't think he was suitable for them.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2020/09/blogs/ ... r-for-him/

I've just added to the Harry Wilson thread with my own thoughts on why that might be the case. Personally, I'm hoping that we didn't spend a club record fee on him as " a statement of intent ", because unless he radically changes the way that he players and develops his right foot I can't see him being an asset on our right wing. He could even turn out to be an expensive liability in respect to our overall team dynamic.

Good technical player, too lightweight for the EPL and a very unusual choice for us - given the way that we set up and play.

I agree with regard to Wilson. Another predominantly left footed player who will struggle on the right hand side with our long ball tactics (no way he is going to be able to develop his right foot any more than as of now)

Westwood and Brownhill are far too lightweight as a pairing in midfield so would, if finances dictate, rather Brownhill moved out wide (natural right foot) and we use any monies, such as what Wilson would cost, on a couple of loans to get us through this season (one CM and one CB)

[Newcastleclaret93]

The guy that broke the story has said our bid has fallen short of there valuation

[NewClaret]

The guy that broke the story has said our bid has fallen short of there valuation

Or someone else is in? Always been a bit sceptical of this since it broke - sounded to me like they were drumming up interest elsewhere!

[FactualFrank]

Or someone else is in? Always been a bit sceptical of this since it broke - sounded to me like they were drumming up interest elsewhere!

Don't think he'd be starting tonight if somebody else had come in. There'd be little point.

[ksrclaret]

I am sure you can offer the club a far better player for less money and less wages

We get it. You don't like LTL. Do you have to add a snide comment to everything he writes though? Foe him or something.

[claretonthecoast1882]

We get it. You don't like LTL. Do you have to add a snide comment to everything he writes though? Foe him or something.

You could always practice what you preach and foe me love

[ksrclaret]

You could always practice what you preach and foe me love

Odd comment, not sure why you think I’d foe you? I love your contributions to this board. You’re such a pleasant character and you add so much value. I’m just trying to be a mate and help you let go of some of that trademark anger.

On a separate note, it’s not nice to use sexist language like ‘love’ when addressing someone. Again, just trying to be mate.

Anyway, now we’ve got that out of the way, have we signed anyone yet?

[Martinc265]

How is calling someone Love sexist? You only have to go over to Halifax to find everyone gets called Love and I mean everyone.

[Jakubclaret]

How is calling someone Love sexist? You only have to go over to Halifax to find everyone gets called Love and I mean everyone.

I know it’s bonkers in certain parts of the uk it’s acceptable to be called marra not spelt marrow the point being it’s ok to call somebody a vegetable but love is sexist. Think marra originates from the miners the spirit of brotherhood. We are living in society where people get offended by the slightest thing at the drop of a hat, apologies for digressing off thread.

[ksrclaret]

How is calling someone Love sexist? You only have to go over to Halifax to find everyone gets called Love and I mean everyone.

I personally think if you're using it to talk down to someone it is sexist. Same as when people use 'darling' to try and talk down to someone. If it's being used affectionately or in a friendly manner it's fine. I suspect the good folk of Halifax will mostly fall into the latter category. Like most things, it depends on the context. That's my view anyway.

We digress though. You can certainly tell there's a lack of transfer news on this thread...