This generation

[SammyBoy]

The lack of young people owning their own homes is definitely more of a systematic problem, rather than they're simply spending too much on avocado and Starbucks. As the source below shows, house prices rises are outpacing wage growth by about 7-1.

In 2018 the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ (IFS’s) briefing note ‘The decline of homeownership among young adults’ showed that home ownership among young adults has collapsed over the past 20 years – particularly for those on middle incomes. In 1995-96, 65% of people aged 25 to 34 with incomes in the middle 20% for their age owned their own home. Today, twenty years later, that figure is just 27%. The root-causes are both the chronic lack of housing and flat wage growth in recent years, which as a result has left thousands – especially those on middle or low incomes priced out of ever being able to call a home their own.

Homes are simply not affordable anymore as the sharp rise in house prices relative to incomes shows. After adjusting for inflation, the average (mean) UK house price was 152% higher in 2015-16 than 20 years earlier. By contrast, the average net family income of those aged 25 to 34 grew by only 22% in real terms over the same period.

These figures are a stark reminder of the challenges being faced by many today who, through no fault of their own, are increasingly seeing the first rungs of the housing ladder being pulled further and further out of their reach.

innerspacehomes.com/innerspace-blog/inn ... ford-lw48c

[Rileybobs]

Grades at school for a start. Exams were dumbed down for years, in order that successive governments could give the impression that education was improving.
Waiting, patience. Once upon a time you had to wait for a new release to come to the local flea pit, now they just click on line and get it instantly.
I can remember as a kid walking 3/4 of a mile to the local chippy, now it's a phone call and delivered to your door.
The Internet can bring the whole world to your living room, but at the cost of people going out to look for life in the world.
The bank of mum and dad ......... most of my generations parents had enough on their plates paying the bills, if you couldn't afford it you did without. Nobody does without now, whether they can afford it or not. Disposable income has never been higher, tick is so readily available. Not many save for what they want, they get it straight away and pay for it later.
It's a different world, and for convenience its probably better to most peoples eyes, but youngsters lose something having it so easy. You can learn something from having to save, or wait, or be patient to get want you want. Its what happens when you leave home and have to stand on your own feet.
Imo modern life doesn't prepare youngsters for that, far too many are like a fish out of water.

You just come across bitter that we live in a better world now than when you were a kid. And there's nothing to prove that having to walk to pick up fish and chips adds anything to the character of a child. If anything, I'd say the advancement of technology and the way that people are now able to socialise and interact prepares them better for the real world. You're casting generalisations but don't seem to have anything other than your own, frankly prehistoric prejudices, to back them up with.

[JohnMac]

I don't think we had many conspiracy theorists when I was growing up, flying saucers were about the only topic.

Now we have a split population and the Covid pandemic certainly has a lot of 18 - 40 year olds on Social Media claiming it is media manipulation or Government brainwashing. Elections anywhere in the western World are rigged because the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans have influenced how we vote apparently. The media suggests British people don't like being told what to do and that is what I think Bobinho is alluding to.

Social media has allowed anyone with a breath to express an opinion and some people can't help themselves by posting the opposite of what they actually think or believe.

[Colburn_Claret]

You just come across bitter that we live in a better world now than when you were a kid. And there's nothing to prove that having to walk to pick up fish and chips adds anything to the character of a child. If anything, I'd say the advancement of technology and the way that people are now able to socialise and interact prepares them better for the real world. You're casting generalisations but don't seem to have anything other than your own, frankly prehistoric prejudices, to back them up with.

As I replied in another post, I'm not bitter, no matter how it comes across. I feel sorry for these youngsters today.

I don't like calling people, but do you really think that the advancement of technology, and that people interacting and socialising on media is better than leaving your house to meet and make friends. That Facebook etc prepares kids for the real world. They don't live in the real world. They live in a virtual reality created by following people on vlogs and instagrams, who paint an idealistic interpretation of their reality, that idiots then try to aspire to, because they think it's real. It's utter ********, and every minute they spend following this crap, is a minute they've wasted when they could have been actually having a life of their own.

There's no time to play on Facebook on the shop floor, or on the production line, which is the biggest bug bear with all the youngsters that have worked on our site.

[UnderSeige]

Not saying that this particular person was behaving correctly or appropriately, but certainly having breathing issues such as COPD and asthma have been identified as valid reasons for being exempt from wearing masks, though the advice from Asthma UK is that you should be able to manage, and should try to wear one for short periods and see if you can cope.
Wearing two masks would definitely not be advised I would have thought.

Nor lighting up a fag.

[FactualFrank]

I don't think we had many conspiracy theorists when I was growing up, flying saucers were about the only topic.

Now we have a split population and the Covid pandemic certainly has a lot of 18 - 40 year olds on Social Media claiming it is media manipulation or Government brainwashing. Elections anywhere in the western World are rigged because the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans have influenced how we vote apparently. The media suggests British people don't like being told what to do and that is what I think Bobinho is alluding to.

Social media has allowed anyone with a breath to express an opinion and some people can't help themselves by posting the opposite of what they actually think or believe.

I don't mind conspiracy theorists - so long as they don't try and shove things down my neck.

There are those who have an opinion and there's those who who keep sharing their opinion on Facebook in an attempt to try and get people on their side and agree with them. They're the ones that are annoying.

If somebody believes the government are doing this to control us, feel free to think like that, just don't try and convince me.

[UnderSeige]

All that may be true, but it isn't the reason for this problem.

The abolishment of corporal punishment in school....

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

[claretonthecoast1882]

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

This degree in studying Beyonce for 3 years... where can you take it

[SammyBoy]

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

Any one who does a degree in David Beckham Studies gets what they deserve to be honest I worked in retail buying/merchandising for a while and I can agree on Fashion Merchandising, it's basically setting you up to go into a close to minimum wage job as a merchandising assistant, which you could definitely get without a degree if you have a little perseverance.

[Rileybobs]

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

Who are you to tell someone that a degree in fine arts, for example, is useless?

[aggi]

Not the problem, but a part of the problem, yes.
It's never one thing, a combination of many things that have changed over the years, but they all play a part. Discipline is, or was, a big part of a child's education. They need to know right from wrong. They need to know that there is a price for wrong doing. Whether that's early to bed, grounded, do without TV or favourite toy, or as a last resort a smack across the legs.
As far as I'm concerned, this couldn't give a **** attitude of so many youngsters today started with ending corporal punishment in school and banning parents from smacking kids.

Personally I'd suggest that if you can't properly discipline a child without hitting them the fault is probably with the discipliner, not the disciplinee.

[aggi]

I don't think we had many conspiracy theorists when I was growing up, flying saucers were about the only topic.

Now we have a split population and the Covid pandemic certainly has a lot of 18 - 40 year olds on Social Media claiming it is media manipulation or Government brainwashing. Elections anywhere in the western World are rigged because the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans have influenced how we vote apparently. The media suggests British people don't like being told what to do and that is what I think Bobinho is alluding to.

Social media has allowed anyone with a breath to express an opinion and some people can't help themselves by posting the opposite of what they actually think or believe.

I'd say on the social media I see it's more the older generation with the conspiracy theories, fake news, etc. Whether that's because they are less critical of what they see online, they really do believe these things or just the case with what I see I don't know.

[Swizzlestick]

Don’t know about those historical degrees, but there’s some old fossils on this forum who are perhaps worthy of study.

[aggi]

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

This is another of those posts where I can't work out if the poster is serious or just taking the mick out of other posters.

[ksrclaret]

Jesus, this thread really does have it all now. My old timer bingo card is just about full.

Bring back hitting kids in school, exams are too easy, mobile phones are bad, video games are bad, useless degrees. Honourable mention for the left-field idea that kids are worse off because they no longer have to walk to the chippy. I didn’t expect anything as bats as that.

There really are some bitter old fools on this board.

[Spijed]

Boris Johnson studied Classics at Oxford university.

Can someone tell me why that's anymore worthwhile than some of those on the list?

[Devils_Advocate]

If getting battered by your parents before having to walk miles to get your battered fish for supper makes you turn out like some of the chumps on here then modern society is winning by a landslide.

[UnderSeige]

This is another of those posts where I can't work out if the poster is serious or just taking the mick out of other posters.

It's not meant to be taking the mick out of other posters. It is however taking the mick out of the courses; those who study on them; those who teach them and the people in governments responsible for funding the departments in universities that teach them.

The degrees mentioned are real courses that take place. What use is a degree in 'the study of Dr Who'? What does it tell an employer about a person who has spent three years as an undergraduate on such a course?

[ksrclaret]

It's not meant to be taking the mick out of other posters. It is however taking the mick out of the courses; those who study on them; those who teach them and the people in governments responsible for funding the departments in universities that teach them.

The degrees mentioned are real courses that take place. What use is a degree in 'the study of Dr Who'? What does it tell an employer about a person who has spent three years as an undergraduate on such a course?

Quite why you chose to include Fine Art on the list though is a mystery. It is a well respected degree and has been around for decades at many of our top institutions. Degrees can't all be science, engineering and accountancy. And this is coming from someone who studied a science. We need creative types as well and a degree in that subject provides a perfect platform to learn from the best and prepare for a career in design somewhere.

As another poster has asked, who made you the arbiter of what is and what isn't a good degree to take?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

A number of those degrees sound stupid at first, but when you flesh out what the course details are then it makes more sense.

[Devils_Advocate]

It's not meant to be taking the mick out of other posters. It is however taking the mick out of the courses; those who study on them; those who teach them and the people in governments responsible for funding the departments in universities that teach them.

The degrees mentioned are real courses that take place. What use is a degree in 'the study of Dr Who'? What does it tell an employer about a person who has spent three years as an undergraduate on such a course?

There isnt a degree in the study of Dr Who. The 3 year degree is in ufology and about 10 years ago someone did their doctorate on Dr Who with respect to the wider subject.

This is how dissertations, thesis and doctorates (where you write an academic published book) works. Part of my degree was in American studies however my dissertation was on the New York punk scene and its impact on fashion and culture in 1970s London.

If youre gonna ridicule something at least try and be factual as by your logic I spent 3 years studying a degree in punk music which as interesting as it sounds is definitely not what I did

[UnderSeige]

Who are you to tell someone that a degree in fine arts, for example, is useless?

Nobody I suppose. I think that everyone should have full freedom to study what they want as long as they pay full price for it. I don't think that government should be subsidising such courses. Even though students take on lots of debt paying tuition fees there is still a large amount of public money that goes into funding education.

Here's an interview with a real fine arts student who is qualified to say whether a degree in fine arts is useful or not:

Jessica Barrett, 33 Bachelor of Fine Arts focusing on contemporary dance, minor in philosophy
So what made you go into dance?
I had done it my whole life and went to a fine arts junior high and high school. And when I got close to graduating I still had no idea what I was going to do after high school. I wanted to take a gap year but my dad wasn't super keen on the idea, and he would be paying for my post-secondary as per my parents' divorce settlement. Then my high school dance teacher suggested I pursue dance at the college level.

Were you happy?
At university, no. I loved it in college, thrived even. But at university I felt lost. And I really just kept going because I was already halfway to a degree, this piece of paper that I was supposed to have.

How did you feel after you got your degree?
Meh. It was super uneventful. I didn't even go to my convocation. I found university to be impersonal and cold and kind of pointless. Or maybe just no one explained to me how to do it properly. Like how to pick classes and professors that were inspiring and good.

Where'd you end up after?
I taught dance and worked at Lululemon and saved money to travel to South America. And I did some choreography and other performing. About two years after I got my degree I went to Langara College as a "mature" student for journalism. I was 25. I think I realized my degree—and not just mine but most people's—was basically worth nothing from an employment standpoint. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/jmk ... fe-choices

[Rileybobs]

Nobody I suppose. I think that everyone should have full freedom to study what they want as long as they pay full price for it. I don't think that government should be subsidising such courses. Even though students take on lots of debt paying tuition fees there is still a large amount of public money that goes into funding education.

Here's an interview with a real fine arts student who is qualified to say whether a degree in fine arts is useful or not:

You do know that that article is Canadian, and the former student studied at a Canadian college?

And a single example of somebody regretting studying Fine Arts is hardly proof that the degree is a waste of time. You're ignorance is astonishing.

[UnderSeige]

There isnt a degree in the study of Dr Who. The 3 year degree is in ufology and about 10 years ago someone did their doctorate on Dr Who with respect to the wider subject.

This is how dissertations, thesis and doctorates (where you write an academic published book) works. Part of my degree was in American studies however my dissertation was on the New York punk scene and its impact on fashion and culture in 1970s London.

If youre gonna ridicule something at least try and be factual as by your logic I spent 3 years studying a degree in punk music which as interesting as it sounds is definitely not what I did

Your quite right. It was a doctorate in 2008. I stand corrected on that one. I was misled by the title of the article which was 'Top Ten Useless Degrees'.

8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University
In August this year, Aussie Martin Plowman became the first student to become a real Dr Who after passing his studies of unidentified flying objects. After his major in culture and communications, he decided he wanted to do something a bit different, so he chose little green men. However, despite his new status, he remains open-minded about things: “When I meet someone who says they’ve seen something strange, that’s fair enough, because maybe they have. I don’t know what it is, though,” https://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless-c ... egrees.php

Others in the list were:
1. Art History – various colleges
2. Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University (Not sure I agree with that one)
3. Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington
4. Musicology – UCLA
5. Philosophy – various colleges (Not sure I agree with that one)
6. Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne
7. The Phallus – Occidental College
8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University
9. Parapsychology – various colleges
10. David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK

[Devils_Advocate]

Wow, so your level of intelligent debate is to just trot out a list of most useless degrees (worldwide) off google. Stick to the Covid stuff where people are more receptacle to any old nonsense that either sounds good and/or fits what they wish to hear

[Rileybobs]

Your quite right. It was a doctorate in 2008. I stand corrected on that one. I was misled by the title of the article which was 'Top Ten Useless Degrees'.


Others in the list were:
1. Art History – various colleges
2. Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University (Not sure I agree with that one)
3. Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington
4. Musicology – UCLA
5. Philosophy – various colleges (Not sure I agree with that one)
6. Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne
7. The Phallus – Occidental College
8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University
9. Parapsychology – various colleges
10. David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK

Are you also aware that there isn't a degree in David Beckham studies, and that such course doesn't even exist? I could check your other claims but on the basis that the first one I checked out proved to be untrue I have serious doubts about some of the others.

If you're going to copy and paste lists from the internet you may want to verify the information. You could just hold your hands up but it's quite amusing seeing you dig a deeper hole.

[Spiral]

Europe would have struggled to drag itself out of the middle-ages were it not for a renaissance period underpinned by a rediscovery of the classical period, its systems of government, its ideas and its art. Any building worth looking at, any museum worth visiting, any monument erected to save a cultural or historical moment to posterity owes itself - and thus, ourselves and the story we tell ourselves about who we are, our national character, our history, and our values, by reflecting these things onto that which we build, remember, and lionise - to a willingness to engage with history. Sadly, I suspect that for anyone who questions the importance of history beyond which battle was fought on which field and on which day, no explanation would ever be enough. Thankfully not everyone in the world is so artless.

[UnderSeige]

You do know that that article is Canadian, and the former student studied at a Canadian college?

And a single example of somebody regretting studying Fine Arts is hardly proof that the degree is a waste of time. You're ignorance is astonishing.

I thought that the thread was about 'this generation' rather than 'this generation but only in the UK'.

I selected Fine Arts because it appeared on a number of articles that listed 'useless degrees'. It sounds like there are a lot of other astonishingly ignorant people around as well as me.

https://www.careeraddict.com/useless-degrees
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/jmk9 ... fe-choices
https://moneywise.com/a/college-majors- ... -prospects
https://www.thesimpledollar.com/make-mo ... -to-earn/
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career ... sume.html/
https://www.moneypop.com/invest/useless ... &firefox=1

[UnderSeige]

Are you also aware that there isn't a degree in David Beckham studies, and that such course doesn't even exist? I could check your other claims but on the basis that the first one I checked out proved to be untrue I have serious doubts about some of the others.

If you're going to copy and paste lists from the internet you may want to verify the information. You could just hold your hands up but it's quite amusing seeing you dig a deeper hole.

It looks like I have struck a raw raw nerve with this 'useless course thing'. I don't like playing devils advocate much.

The David Beckham course is/was a Football Culture course dedicated to him - known as a 'Celeb-style degree'.

David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK
It might sound like a joke, but the squeaky-voiced soccer star actually has a degree course dedicated to him. The course, which is technically classed as “Football Culture”, has been defended by its founder, who argues that degree courses must keep with the times. Celeb-style degrees can also be found in the US, with Madonna studies injected into the Gender course at Harvard (no less) and Oprah Winfrey studies at Illinois. https://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless-c ... egrees.php

[Rileybobs]

I thought that the thread was about 'this generation' rather than 'this generation but only in the UK'.

I selected Fine Arts because it appeared on a number of articles that listed 'useless degrees'. It sounds like there are a lot of other astonishingly ignorant people around as well as me.

https://www.careeraddict.com/useless-degrees
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/jmk9 ... fe-choices
https://moneywise.com/a/college-majors- ... -prospects
https://www.thesimpledollar.com/make-mo ... -to-earn/
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career ... sume.html/
https://www.moneypop.com/invest/useless ... &firefox=1

You said

Nobody I suppose. I think that everyone should have full freedom to study what they want as long as they pay full price for it. I don't think that government should be subsidising such courses. Even though students take on lots of debt paying tuition fees there is still a large amount of public money that goes into funding education.

I don't think you were talking about educational systems in other countries were you?

Just because that particular degree is on some random lists of useless degrees doesn't mean that it's useless. You're forming your opinion on that degree without any knowledge whatsoever, and based upon random lists on American websites.

Like I say, keep digging.

[Rileybobs]

It looks like I have struck a raw raw nerve with this 'useless course thing'. I don't like playing devils advocate much.

The David Beckham course is/was a Football Culture course dedicated to him - known as a 'Celeb-style degree'.

Jesus, do you even read the links that you post? A module offered as part of the degree course in Sport, Media and Culture is called 'Football Culture', which was nicknamed David Beckham Studies.

[Devils_Advocate]

When I did my degree I think i completed at least 36 modules. I take back my comments about you sticking to the Covid thread UnderSeige because on review I think you are a perfect fit for this thread after all

[aggi]

It's not meant to be taking the mick out of other posters. It is however taking the mick out of the courses; those who study on them; those who teach them and the people in governments responsible for funding the departments in universities that teach them.

The degrees mentioned are real courses that take place. What use is a degree in 'the study of Dr Who'? What does it tell an employer about a person who has spent three years as an undergraduate on such a course?

Fair enough, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt rather than thinking you had just posted a list that was mainly modules or dissertation subjects (with different actual names) from around the world and believed they were all degrees.

Let's be honest, the vast majority of degree content never gets used in any detail, it's the skills such as research, critical analysis, etc that are the real outcome. I have a degree in maths, one of my colleagues has a doctorate in biochemistry, another a degree in fine arts. We're all doing the same job.

[Volvoclaret]

Wondered where the Three Degrees finished up.

[nil_desperandum]

People who "majored" in Fine Art. Not a bad list
https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-peop ... /reference

[nil_desperandum]

Your quite right. It was a doctorate in 2008. I stand corrected on that one. I was misled by the title of the article which was 'Top Ten Useless Degrees'.


Others in the list were:
1. Art History – various colleges
2. Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University (Not sure I agree with that one)
3. Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington
4. Musicology – UCLA
5. Philosophy – various colleges (Not sure I agree with that one)
6. Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne
7. The Phallus – Occidental College
8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University
9. Parapsychology – various colleges
10. David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK

I think that you may be misunderstanding the context of this list. The courses seem to be specific to a particular University or Institution.
So to take one example 4.Musicology -UCLA.
This may well be useless and carry very little credibility from UCLA, but a Musicology degree at Oxford or Cambridge or from any of the leading European or American Universities would be extremely well-respected and valuable.

[Devils_Advocate]

Wondered where the Three Degrees finished up.

They went international I believe

[Colburn_Claret]

I would add to that the many students who take out three years of their life, to amass a huge amount of debt just to gain a useless degree with little chance of quality employment prospects resulting from it.
Degrees such as:

• Parapsychology

• Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology (Study of Dr Who)

• Liberal Arts

• Art History

• David Beckham Studies

• Media studies

• Stand-Up Comedy

• Beyonce studies

• Circus Artist

• Intercultural and international studies

• Fine arts

• Composition and rhetoric

• Surfing Studies

• Star Trek ( a degree but not as we know it)

• Viking studies

• Library science

• Fashion merchandising

Hang on, we were crying out for someone with a StarTrek degree in their cv, only last week at work.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Hang on, we were crying out for someone with a StarTrek degree in their cv, only last week at work.

I've met William Shatner if that helps me qualify for the job..

[Rileybobs]

Hang on, we were crying out for someone with a StarTrek degree in their cv, only last week at work.

You might be looking a while as you can't get a degree in Star Trek. It's another of Under Siege's incorrect claims.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Your quite right. It was a doctorate in 2008. I stand corrected on that one. I was misled by the title of the article which was 'Top Ten Useless Degrees'.


Others in the list were:
1. Art History – various colleges
2. Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University (Not sure I agree with that one)
3. Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington
4. Musicology – UCLA
5. Philosophy – various colleges (Not sure I agree with that one)
6. Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne
7. The Phallus – Occidental College
8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University
9. Parapsychology – various colleges
10. David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK

For No.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc

[UnderSeige]

When I did my degree I think i completed at least 36 modules. I take back my comments about you sticking to the Covid thread UnderSeige because on review I think you are a perfect fit for this thread after all

A perfect fit. It looks like I have accidentally become the 'devil's advocate' for the day. Sorry for stealing your role.

Yes the more people sqweem and sqweem and sqweem about this the more I think that there is a lot of truth in the point that I am making. That is that there is a lot of useless education about and many employers see it as such.

I have read two degrees myself. One at masters level. I agree with aggi that "the vast majority of degree content never gets used in any detail, it's the skills such as research, critical analysis, etc that are the real outcome".

The main point I am making is that a lot of the qualifications that are on offer are perceived to be 'soft options'. I doubt very much that they will provide the employee skills required for a 'Post Covid, Post EU, UK economy'. Make no bones about it. Times are going to be tough. Money is going to be scarce. The jobs market is likely going to be a tough place to be for some time.

[Greenmile]

Yes the more people sqweem and sqweem and sqweem about this the more I think that there is a lot of truth in the point that I am making...

I don’t see any folk “squeeming”, just a few pointing out the many factual accuracies in your posts.

Probably not too wise to take that as an indicator that “there is a lot of truth in the point (you are) making”, tbh.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You might be looking a while as you can't get a degree in Star Trek. It's another of Under Siege's incorrect claims.

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I like the sound of this course - sit, watch and discuss star trek.

[Rileybobs]

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I like the sound of this course - sit, watch and discuss star trek.

It's a module though, not a degree.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I fine doing just this part

[dsr]

It's a module though, not a degree.

For the full degree you have to add Buffy the Vampire Slayer and a choice of Marvel or DC superheroes.

[ClaretAndJew]

What's an degre ever learned anyone anyways? Stupid science bitches cant make i more smarter

[GodIsADeeJay81]

For the full degree you have to add Buffy the Vampire Slayer and a choice of Marvel or DC superheroes.

Dammit, I was never a fan of series Buffy.

[Volvoclaret]

You can substitute Buffy with an Angel and Willow module.
Not that I ever watched any of them.