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Been a bit disappointing don’t you think?
Recently reassured by Her Majesty that we would prove again how resolute, reliable and resilient the British people would show as per previous generations, I felt maybe we would do just that.
We haven’t though have we?
We have blatantly ignored every opportunity we have had to show that we care about the big picture.....Instead, we have listened to the advice given, and heard what we have wanted to hear, and just done our own thing. Partied, raved and drunk ourselves into folklore.... when previous generations have behaved with honour and discipline to ensure we prevailed through the toughest of times, this generation has just minced it’s way to it’s next outdoor party.
Those that came before us fought off the threat of Nazi Germany, by just getting amongst it, sacrificing their own short term needs for the good of the nation and beyond.... this generation couldn’t last a few months without kicking off. Mard arses, the lot of em.
Some scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues. What do you do? Go outside and spark a fag up....
This generation had an opportunity to show how much it cared for itself, but it’s failed miserably imho.
Recently reassured by Her Majesty that we would prove again how resolute, reliable and resilient the British people would show as per previous generations, I felt maybe we would do just that.
We haven’t though have we?
We have blatantly ignored every opportunity we have had to show that we care about the big picture.....Instead, we have listened to the advice given, and heard what we have wanted to hear, and just done our own thing. Partied, raved and drunk ourselves into folklore.... when previous generations have behaved with honour and discipline to ensure we prevailed through the toughest of times, this generation has just minced it’s way to it’s next outdoor party.
Those that came before us fought off the threat of Nazi Germany, by just getting amongst it, sacrificing their own short term needs for the good of the nation and beyond.... this generation couldn’t last a few months without kicking off. Mard arses, the lot of em.
Some scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues. What do you do? Go outside and spark a fag up....
This generation had an opportunity to show how much it cared for itself, but it’s failed miserably imho.
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There’s no denying we have plenty of idiots. I’d wager we had just as many, proportionately, during the war years. Deserters, crooks, idiots - we just don’t give them the press that the deserving receive.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 pmBeen a bit disappointing don’t you think?
Recently reassured by Her Majesty that we would prove again how resolute, reliable and resilient the British people would show as per previous generations, I felt maybe we would do just that.
We haven’t though have we?
We have blatantly ignored every opportunity we have had to show that we care about the big picture.....Instead, we have listened to the advice given, and heard what we have wanted to hear, and just done our own thing. Partied, raved and drunk ourselves into folklore.... when previous generations have behaved with honour and discipline to ensure we prevailed through the toughest of times, this generation has just minced it’s way to it’s next outdoor party.
Those that came before us fought off the threat of Nazi Germany, by just getting amongst it, sacrificing their own short term needs for the good of the nation and beyond.... this generation couldn’t last a few months without kicking off. Mard arses, the lot of em.
Some scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues. What do you do? Go outside and spark a fag up....
This generation had an opportunity to show how much it cared for itself, but it’s failed miserably imho.
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I think the mistake you're making is assuming there were far fewer idiots around during WW2 because you were not there to witness them.
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Some agreement with OP but as DC stated not all were clean
There was a thriving black market and some local businesses in the food trade made a lot of money from it.
There was a thriving black market and some local businesses in the food trade made a lot of money from it.
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Any local businesses in particular?Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:47 pmSome agreement with OP but as DC stated not all were clean
There was a thriving black market and some local businesses in the food trade made a lot of money from it.
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Classifying people by generations rarely provides any decent insight. There's good and bad, tough and soft, dicks and legends in every generation.
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It’s well known that rationing resulted in a black market. Plenty other crimes committed during the wars as well...
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Not saying that this particular person was behaving correctly or appropriately, but certainly having breathing issues such as COPD and asthma have been identified as valid reasons for being exempt from wearing masks, though the advice from Asthma UK is that you should be able to manage, and should try to wear one for short periods and see if you can cope.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 pm
Some scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues.
Wearing two masks would definitely not be advised I would have thought.
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Whilst I’m not suggesting that “black marketeering” is confined to this generation only, what I was REALLY suggesting was the basics were being missed. We all know that living in a capitalist society will see plenty trying to exploit the situation (I have reported examples of profiteering to eBay during the pandemic only for it to be ignored due to the increased profit they make) but what I’m taking about is the “Blackout“ for example. Any evidence to suggest that people went out for all nite raves on rooftops during the blitz?
I can’t remember reading anything of the sort. People are taking massive risks with other people’s (and their families) lives with a nonchalant attitude. Parties and raves and all sorts going on just because people are a bit fed up cos they ain’t been out for three weeks. It’s just disappointing is all....
The “two masks” remark was made tongue in cheek.... maybe you didn’t see it due to me wearing two masks. You KNEW what I meant tho. If wearing a mask restricted your breathing THAT much, stay in. Just stay in. I would. No question. Get someone to get your washing powder for you rather than making a big fuss about you being “Vulnerable”.
I can’t remember reading anything of the sort. People are taking massive risks with other people’s (and their families) lives with a nonchalant attitude. Parties and raves and all sorts going on just because people are a bit fed up cos they ain’t been out for three weeks. It’s just disappointing is all....
The “two masks” remark was made tongue in cheek.... maybe you didn’t see it due to me wearing two masks. You KNEW what I meant tho. If wearing a mask restricted your breathing THAT much, stay in. Just stay in. I would. No question. Get someone to get your washing powder for you rather than making a big fuss about you being “Vulnerable”.
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During WW2 the rules were very clear, the stakes understood, and the state was there in every aspect of life to help. Back then it was more likely to be older people who were breaking the rules, as they weren’t as much in the firing line - just as younger people weren’t this time.
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I suppose its going to depend on how bad the asthma is.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:17 pmNot saying that this particular person was behaving correctly or appropriately, but certainly having breathing issues such as COPD and asthma have been identified as valid reasons for being exempt from wearing masks, though the advice from Asthma UK is that you should be able to manage, and should try to wear one for short periods and see if you can cope.
Wearing two masks would definitely not be advised I would have thought.
I've got asthma but no issues wearing mask for a short trip to the shop.
If I was shopping with a spouse then that would be a different matter
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Here we go again, more divisive claptrap...
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FWIW - I have been shielding, as my severe asthma made me vulnerable to Covid.
I have had to attend various medical appointments, which meant wearing a mask. The only problem I encountered was my glasses steaming up.
As they say - if you have problems with a mask, you’ll hate the ventilator.
I have had to attend various medical appointments, which meant wearing a mask. The only problem I encountered was my glasses steaming up.
As they say - if you have problems with a mask, you’ll hate the ventilator.
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I see your point. You don't have asthma, you see a man who does have asthma, and that him making the best of his life means that your life is inconvenienced in a tiny tiny way. No wonder you call him a name based on Down's Syndrome. No wonder you call him a name based on human genitalia.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 pmSome scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues. What do you do? Go outside and spark a fag up....
This generation had an opportunity to show how much it cared for itself, but it’s failed miserably imho.
No, your point is well made. People with asthma cluttering up the shops? You don't have asthma, why should you care? Let them vegetate at home. Why should you make allowances for their disability? Let them rot.
I'm sure your generation is proud of you. I just hope it isn't my generation that you claim to represent.
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I think as we age, we all grow less tolerant, I know I do.
definately don't hold with how honourable the war years people were though. that's just wrong.
definately don't hold with how honourable the war years people were though. that's just wrong.
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Riots and looting during the blitz. Bobinho is a moron surrendering to declinism because his life didn't turn out the way he wanted it to and so he blames folks younger than himself for his misery. Phantoms are everywhere, and bitter folk waste their days swinging at them. Stop being silly.
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I've noticed moreso people coughing and sneezing during these strange times....I'm quite happy to Wear a mask When / where they are Required.. I enjoy life tbh.
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One thing I missed during lockdown, is reading these, beer infused, saturday night threads when people get home from the pub.
Its nice that things are getting back to normal
Its nice that things are getting back to normal
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Conscription would really wake up the woke from their dull web based viral catatonic state.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 pmBeen a bit disappointing don’t you think?
Recently reassured by Her Majesty that we would prove again how resolute, reliable and resilient the British people would show as per previous generations, I felt maybe we would do just that.
We haven’t though have we?
We have blatantly ignored every opportunity we have had to show that we care about the big picture.....Instead, we have listened to the advice given, and heard what we have wanted to hear, and just done our own thing. Partied, raved and drunk ourselves into folklore.... when previous generations have behaved with honour and discipline to ensure we prevailed through the toughest of times, this generation has just minced it’s way to it’s next outdoor party.
Those that came before us fought off the threat of Nazi Germany, by just getting amongst it, sacrificing their own short term needs for the good of the nation and beyond.... this generation couldn’t last a few months without kicking off. Mard arses, the lot of em.
Some scrote in the shop today loudly yelling the shop assistant how he wasn’t wearing a mask due to him having asthma.... it restricted his breathing. Yeah mate, like COVID-19 won’t? You utter Mong, the rules are there to protect you... you should be wearing TWO face masks with your health issues. What do you do? Go outside and spark a fag up....
This generation had an opportunity to show how much it cared for itself, but it’s failed miserably imho.
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To tarnish a whole generation is a terrible thing.
The many young people I’ve met have largely been very likeable and hard working.
My daughter and several of her close friends are the 25 year old nurses that are trying to save the older people in the Intensive Care Units as they fight coronavirus. They have seen terrible things this last 6 months sometimes losing 2 or 3 patients in a day....go home, have a little cry and go back the next day while fearing they will probably catch it.
The many young people I’ve met have largely been very likeable and hard working.
My daughter and several of her close friends are the 25 year old nurses that are trying to save the older people in the Intensive Care Units as they fight coronavirus. They have seen terrible things this last 6 months sometimes losing 2 or 3 patients in a day....go home, have a little cry and go back the next day while fearing they will probably catch it.
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It’s just another ‘things were better in my day’ thread.
It’s impossible to compare different generations as there’s far too many factors involved that have changed. My family abided by the rules very well, my Mrs lost her job and I had my income cut in half so if I’m honest your post p***** me off a bit
It’s impossible to compare different generations as there’s far too many factors involved that have changed. My family abided by the rules very well, my Mrs lost her job and I had my income cut in half so if I’m honest your post p***** me off a bit
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Yeah, coz the situation we find ourselves in now is just like the blitz! Bombs falling down on us from the sky. People tucked away in makeshift shelters and in London in the underground! Buildings destroyed to pieces.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:36 pmWhilst I’m not suggesting that “black marketeering” is confined to this generation only, what I was REALLY suggesting was the basics were being missed. We all know that living in a capitalist society will see plenty trying to exploit the situation (I have reported examples of profiteering to eBay during the pandemic only for it to be ignored due to the increased profit they make) but what I’m taking about is the “Blackout“ for example. Any evidence to suggest that people went out for all nite raves on rooftops during the blitz?
I can’t remember reading anything of the sort. People are taking massive risks with other people’s (and their families) lives with a nonchalant attitude. Parties and raves and all sorts going on just because people are a bit fed up cos they ain’t been out for three weeks. It’s just disappointing is all....
Are you living in Syria Bobinho?
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I think every generation has it's issues. Spivs during the war, Mods/Rockers/Punks/Teddy Boys were no angels. Millwall fans smashing my Mum & Dad's windows in the 70's. Every generation has them....
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This generation are led from the top. When the top doesn’t give a flying fish why should they?
The whole situation in England has been a shambles from day 1. Scotland, Wales & N.I. have respectable figures compared to England. They reacted, from day 1, to a pandemic. Boris went on holiday, avoided COBRA meetings, went around shaking hands with strangers whilst not wearing a mask and then caught the virus. The nations true leader then drove the length of the country, with a 5yo child because there was a possibility that himself or spouse had the bug. Utter madness.
The idiots that are out and about are not all youngsters. 3 generations worth of people saying it’s got nothing to do with me.
The whole situation in England has been a shambles from day 1. Scotland, Wales & N.I. have respectable figures compared to England. They reacted, from day 1, to a pandemic. Boris went on holiday, avoided COBRA meetings, went around shaking hands with strangers whilst not wearing a mask and then caught the virus. The nations true leader then drove the length of the country, with a 5yo child because there was a possibility that himself or spouse had the bug. Utter madness.
The idiots that are out and about are not all youngsters. 3 generations worth of people saying it’s got nothing to do with me.
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Which "generation" are you actually on about. ?
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P P P People try to put us down . Just because we have our heads buried in our phones on social media all break time.
Meet new people through our phones as we turn into mindless drones.
My generation yeah.
Meet new people through our phones as we turn into mindless drones.
My generation yeah.
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Kids eh? Who'd Have em!
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I've only just turned 30 but I made a promise to myself years ago that I'll never be that old guy bitching and moaning about kids these days and slagging off new music I've never even heard. The OP has served as a nice bit of motivation to keep that promise ..
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All that may be true, but it isn't the reason for this problem.huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:01 amThis generation are led from the top. When the top doesn’t give a flying fish why should they?
The whole situation in England has been a shambles from day 1. Scotland, Wales & N.I. have respectable figures compared to England. They reacted, from day 1, to a pandemic. Boris went on holiday, avoided COBRA meetings, went around shaking hands with strangers whilst not wearing a mask and then caught the virus. The nations true leader then drove the length of the country, with a 5yo child because there was a possibility that himself or spouse had the bug. Utter madness.
The idiots that are out and about are not all youngsters. 3 generations worth of people saying it’s got nothing to do with me.
The abolishment of corporal punishment in school.
Making smacking children illegal.
Dumbing down exams to make pass grades easier to acquire.
Lowering pass grades to make more students 'successful '.
Making excuses for youngsters who break the law, treating them as if they were the victim, rather than the culprit.
A total lack of a deterrent for such offenders.
Cancelling Sports day, not allowed to have winners, because you can definitely not have losers.
Everything at the finger tips, takeaway meals, latest film, latest partner all on the end of an instant button.
The wokes who think that everybody should be accepted, no matter how bizarre their beliefs.
Facebook and Instagram, which undermines people making real friends, that can be counted on, and puts added pressure on people to conform to a mass mentality.
RedBull, Monster and RockStar, that addles peoples brains to think they are active, but leaves them flat as a fart and useless an hour after drinking.
We have a generation that has everything laid on a plate for them, and as in previous generations there are good and bad out there. The good appreciate the sacrifices parents have made, and work hard to repay that sacrifice. The bad are just entitled little shits, who believe the world owes them Everything , because the world has 'given' them everything. They have no responsibilities at all, which is the crux of the problem, and they couldn't give a damn about anybody else, including their parents.
We've been creating these arsehiles drip by drip since Thatcher, and we are all responsible to a greater or lesser extent. How you turn that around in 2020 is doable, but not without bloodshed. I can see the day when vigilantes take to the streets, because the Police are ham strung to deal with them.
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Why do some old, bitter people insist on trotting out these tired old lies?Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:58 am
We have a generation that has everything laid on a plate for them
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Can’t argue with any off that but you still can’t lump all of a generation into one bracket. There are some great kids out there, just as there has always been, but they get tarred with the same brush.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:58 amAll that may be true, but it isn't the reason for this problem.
The abolishment of corporal punishment in school.
Making smacking children illegal.
Dumbing down exams to make pass grades easier to acquire.
Lowering pass grades to make more students 'successful '.
Making excuses for youngsters who break the law, treating them as if they were the victim, rather than the culprit.
A total lack of a deterrent for such offenders.
Cancelling Sports day, not allowed to have winners, because you can definitely not have losers.
Everything at the finger tips, takeaway meals, latest film, latest partner all on the end of an instant button.
The wokes who think that everybody should be accepted, no matter how bizarre their beliefs.
Facebook and Instagram, which undermines people making real friends, that can be counted on, and puts added pressure on people to conform to a mass mentality.
RedBull, Monster and RockStar, that addles peoples brains to think they are active, but leaves them flat as a fart and useless an hour after drinking.
We have a generation that has everything laid on a plate for them, and as in previous generations there are good and bad out there. The good appreciate the sacrifices parents have made, and work hard to repay that sacrifice. The bad are just entitled little shits, who believe the world owes them Everything , because the world has 'given' them everything. They have no responsibilities at all, which is the crux of the problem, and they couldn't give a damn about anybody else, including their parents.
We've been creating these arsehiles drip by drip since Thatcher, and we are all responsible to a greater or lesser extent. How you turn that around in 2020 is doable, but not without bloodshed. I can see the day when vigilantes take to the streets, because the Police are ham strung to deal with them.
The biggest problem being the parents of the arsehole kids who will defend them to the death. These are the ones that need culling. Kunts
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Yeah - this entitled generation who are going to leave school without a job or any prospect of being able to buy a house for the foreseeable future. They have everything on a plate.
To the OP - which generation exactly were you referring to? Are you including yourself in ‘this generation’?
To the OP - which generation exactly were you referring to? Are you including yourself in ‘this generation’?
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Who exactly are you referring to though? You have so much hatred towards a group of people, but do you even know who you’re directing that hatred towards?huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:07 pmCan’t argue with any off that but you still can’t lump all of a generation into one bracket. There are some great kids out there, just as there has always been, but they get tarred with the same brush.
The biggest problem being the parents of the arsehole kids who will defend them to the death. These are the ones that need culling. Kunts
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Hang around Beamish, we need more sanity on here.Lord Beamish wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:22 pmJust as I decide it may be safe to venture back on here, one of the usual suspects empties the contents of their Reactionary mind onto the forum.
I think I’ll pop back off again.
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People keep mentioning masks, most experts agree this is just a consumer confidence ploy by boris to get the footfall back in shops as most masks don't give nowhere near enough protection,pretty obvious really ask any painter or similar job and you need to be paying at least £15 for decent protection most people( me included ) are buying off amazon at a cost of £20 for 50 masks, not even 50p each!
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If they leave school without a job, or any prospect of buying a house, it's more than likely because they didn't work hard enough when they had the opportunity too. They didn't take advantage of all that free education, they'd rather play on the X Box than do their homework. Rather be seen as the class clown, than the class swot. They didn't have parents who could warn them of the hole they are building for themselves. It's all ok, because a life on benefits, just like mum and dad, is fine.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:08 pmYeah - this entitled generation who are going to leave school without a job or any prospect of being able to buy a house for the foreseeable future. They have everything on a plate.
To the OP - which generation exactly were you referring to? Are you including yourself in ‘this generation’?
I said in my post earlier. It is ALL down to responsibility. If we fail to teach children responsibility, everything else goes down the pan. As parents we are responsible for our children. They have a responsibility to themselves. It's a lesson too many people never got, and if they didn't get it they are unlikely to pass it on to their children. These people don't need pity, they need a bloody good shake to wake up and see the light.
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Oh dear. So the only reason young people can't afford a property is because they didn't work hard enough.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:17 pmIf they leave school without a job, or any prospect of buying a house, it's more than likely because they didn't work hard enough when they had the opportunity too. They didn't take advantage of all that free education, they'd rather play on the X Box than do their homework. Rather be seen as the class clown, than the class swot. They didn't have parents who could warn them of the hole they are building for themselves. It's all ok, because a life on benefits, just like mum and dad, is fine.
I said in my post earlier. It is ALL down to responsibility. If we fail to teach children responsibility, everything else goes down the pan. As parents we are responsible for our children. They have a responsibility to themselves. It's a lesson too many people never got, and if they didn't get it they are unlikely to pass it on to their children. These people don't need pity, they need a bloody good shake to wake up and see the light.
The most disturbing thing is I think you actually you believe that guff. Old and bitter. It's not attractive, mate.
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Nice sound bite, well done.
But why exactly is it a lie? What is the truth, IF I'm wrong, at least tell me why.
As for bitter, I'm far from bitter. I feel sorry for this generation, because in many ways we created the society that created them. That pity doesn't manifest in me crying my eyes out and making excuses for them, I'd rather point out the mistakes we made so that future generations don't keep making the same mistakes. My parents worked hard, but didn't own our house. I worked hard and managed to buy one. My children have worked hard and they have both bought one. Nobody gave me anything, apart from good advice, a clip round the ear, when I needed it, and a shoulder to cry on when things were tough. The rest of it was up to me.
Life is what you make of it, not what whichever government is in power subscribes for you.
You learn from failure. If you take away the failure element of education and sports, then you take away the motive for pushing yourself. Stop bringing kids up to believe life is a walk in the park, because the first job they get, they have no concept of effort and reward. It's too easy to get everything by pushing a button on your mobile phone. Life in a factory, or a shop, or an office isn't like that. You have to put the hours in. You have to take the occasional step backwards as well as forward, and you have to accept it with a shrug and push on anyway. It takes patience to achieve the important things in life, and too many young adults, with life on the end of a mobile, don't understand the concept of patience, or working towards a goal. They don't learn that there is a price for failure until it's too late.
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You're wrong because young people don't get handed everything on a plate. You're speaking from a place of sheer ignorance. I work as a teacher in a deprived area and I confirm you're talking utter garbage when you say that.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:42 pmNice sound bite, well done.
But why exactly is it a lie? What is the truth, IF I'm wrong, at least tell me why.
As for bitter, I'm far from bitter. I feel sorry for this generation, because in many ways we created the society that created them. That pity doesn't manifest in me crying my eyes out and making excuses for them, I'd rather point out the mistakes we made so that future generations don't keep making the same mistakes. My parents worked hard, but didn't own our house. I worked hard and managed to buy one. My children have worked hard and they have both bought one. Nobody gave me anything, apart from good advice, a clip round the ear, when I needed it, and a shoulder to cry on when things were tough. The rest of it was up to me.
Life is what you make of it, not what whichever government is in power subscribes for you.
You learn from failure. If you take away the failure element of education and sports, then you take away the motive for pushing yourself. Stop bringing kids up to believe life is a walk in the park, because the first job they get, they have no concept of effort and reward. It's too easy to get everything by pushing a button on your mobile phone. Life in a factory, or a shop, or an office isn't like that. You have to put the hours in. You have to take the occasional step backwards as well as forward, and you have to accept it with a shrug and push on anyway. It takes patience to achieve the important things in life, and too many young adults, with life on the end of a mobile, don't understand the concept of patience, or working towards a goal. They don't learn that there is a price for failure until it's too late.
The world has obviously moved on since your day. You can choose to remain bitter and resentful about it, or you can choose to move with it.
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Talking out of your arse in regards to buying a house.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:17 pmIf they leave school without a job, or any prospect of buying a house, it's more than likely because they didn't work hard enough when they had the opportunity too. They didn't take advantage of all that free education, they'd rather play on the X Box than do their homework. Rather be seen as the class clown, than the class swot. They didn't have parents who could warn them of the hole they are building for themselves. It's all ok, because a life on benefits, just like mum and dad, is fine.
I said in my post earlier. It is ALL down to responsibility. If we fail to teach children responsibility, everything else goes down the pan. As parents we are responsible for our children. They have a responsibility to themselves. It's a lesson too many people never got, and if they didn't get it they are unlikely to pass it on to their children. These people don't need pity, they need a bloody good shake to wake up and see the light.
When the average price is nearly 8-10 times the average wage how is that an individuals fault if they can't afford it?
Successive govs have failed to get a grip on house prices and as such there will be generations of young people either unable to afford to buy meaning they'll rent forever or they will have to live with parents whilst saving.
There aren't an infinite amount of people who can do jobs within a certain wage structure, just like there aren't an infinite amount of jobs offering that wage.
Our education system also fails to help prepare people for the real world, they don't teach you financial responsibility etc.
Yes parents can and should teach that, but if they don't or can't then our schools should be.
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So people finishing school in the middle of a global pandemic where jobs are hugely difficult to find deserve it because they played too much Xbox. Gotcha. Pig ignorant.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:17 pmIf they leave school without a job, or any prospect of buying a house, it's more than likely because they didn't work hard enough when they had the opportunity too. They didn't take advantage of all that free education, they'd rather play on the X Box than do their homework. Rather be seen as the class clown, than the class swot. They didn't have parents who could warn them of the hole they are building for themselves. It's all ok, because a life on benefits, just like mum and dad, is fine.
I said in my post earlier. It is ALL down to responsibility. If we fail to teach children responsibility, everything else goes down the pan. As parents we are responsible for our children. They have a responsibility to themselves. It's a lesson too many people never got, and if they didn't get it they are unlikely to pass it on to their children. These people don't need pity, they need a bloody good shake to wake up and see the light.
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Yeah, I AM including myself. I’m here living thru it. Trying to do my bit in not spreading this disease, playing the game until there is some sort of effective vaccine. And getting seriously ****** off at the arrogance and selfishness of others.
My point is very simple... we are about to lose a generation who proved themselves to be something quite special. (Yes, there were some scrotes there too) They (not all) lived thru years of hardships and came through the other side providing a better future for us all than was planned. They got amongst it when it mattered and we all live a better life because of it. Churchill called them “the few”. Yes, I know he was specifically talking about the BoB fighter pilots, but I am generalising again. There was a generation who put the collective good before their own personal gains. They had a conscience, and felt a responsibility to do the right things for all of us.
Well, we have our own “few” now don’t we. We should be referring to the NHS, the key workers and the carers who have done their absolute best to bring us thru this as best they can. Some of them have given their all in order to do just that, and they should be remembered as “the few” of this generation.... trouble is, every time there is a new weekend, we hear about “the few” who are just a bunch of selfish pricks, going about their own lives like everything is normal. Risking everything because they feel invincible. Having parties, illegal gatherings and raves with thousands in attendance who then go home to pass this **** onto their families etc. All because they are a bit fed up because they haven’t seen their mates for a few weeks.
Take a walk thru town and see how many are walking around in shops without masking up as they have been asked to do... cos they don’t have to cos they are special and “who’s gonna make me?”
Maybe it’s wrong to generalise as I have done, but quite obviously whilst criticising this generation for its selfishness over the current situation, I didn’t actually mean EVERYONE, but I suspect you knew that.
Anyway, whilst you are here getting upset about what I have said whilst ignoring the point, take it easy on beamish.... he’s written the whole town off as well as this forum, but please bear in mind he didn’t actually mean EVERYONE (even tho that’s what he wrote) who lives in the town, so cut him some slack please....
My point is very simple... we are about to lose a generation who proved themselves to be something quite special. (Yes, there were some scrotes there too) They (not all) lived thru years of hardships and came through the other side providing a better future for us all than was planned. They got amongst it when it mattered and we all live a better life because of it. Churchill called them “the few”. Yes, I know he was specifically talking about the BoB fighter pilots, but I am generalising again. There was a generation who put the collective good before their own personal gains. They had a conscience, and felt a responsibility to do the right things for all of us.
Well, we have our own “few” now don’t we. We should be referring to the NHS, the key workers and the carers who have done their absolute best to bring us thru this as best they can. Some of them have given their all in order to do just that, and they should be remembered as “the few” of this generation.... trouble is, every time there is a new weekend, we hear about “the few” who are just a bunch of selfish pricks, going about their own lives like everything is normal. Risking everything because they feel invincible. Having parties, illegal gatherings and raves with thousands in attendance who then go home to pass this **** onto their families etc. All because they are a bit fed up because they haven’t seen their mates for a few weeks.
Take a walk thru town and see how many are walking around in shops without masking up as they have been asked to do... cos they don’t have to cos they are special and “who’s gonna make me?”
Maybe it’s wrong to generalise as I have done, but quite obviously whilst criticising this generation for its selfishness over the current situation, I didn’t actually mean EVERYONE, but I suspect you knew that.
Anyway, whilst you are here getting upset about what I have said whilst ignoring the point, take it easy on beamish.... he’s written the whole town off as well as this forum, but please bear in mind he didn’t actually mean EVERYONE (even tho that’s what he wrote) who lives in the town, so cut him some slack please....
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I agree schools should teach financial responsibility, but why stop at finance. Why not add health, respect, religious and ethnic tolerance.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:53 pmTalking out of your arse in regards to buying a house.
When the average price is nearly 8-10 times the average wage how is that an individuals fault if they can't afford it?
Successive govs have failed to get a grip on house prices and as such there will be generations of young people either unable to afford to buy meaning they'll rent forever or they will have to live with parents whilst saving.
There aren't an infinite amount of people who can do jobs within a certain wage structure, just like there aren't an infinite amount of jobs offering that wage.
Our education system also fails to help prepare people for the real world, they don't teach you financial responsibility etc.
Yes parents can and should teach that, but if they don't or can't then our schools should be.
I also agree that house prices are way too high, but I'm buggered how you address it, without dropping someone else into the crapper. Halve house prices, and suddenly millions of people are living in negative equity.....Rent to buy schemes. Reducing the downpayment sum would be the biggest help, but can that be foisted onto building societies without existing customers paying the price if too many foreclose at once. We would suddenly be a short recession away from disaster.
As for jobs. There are jobs out there, yes many are minimum wage, but there are just as many that aren't. We had to do without many things paying our mortgage off. It caused strife, as I'm sure it probably did for many others. It's the goal at the end that makes it all worth while. I paid my house off 10 years ago, and I'd be lucky if I had £500 in savings. The last 10 years, have shown that it was all worth while. I've had 3 jobs since I first bought my house, and at each one I started at the bottom of the pile. Just an ordinary worker, no great pay, in fact the 10 years I worked for the NHS, it was a pittance, but I still believed buying my own home was the right step, no matter how hard.
I'm not pretending it is easy for the young, I know through my kids experience, but if you want it hard enough, and are prepared to work hard enough, you can find a way.
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Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:12 pmWe have a generation that has everything laid on a plate for them
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Harking on about WWII is doing you no favours.bobinho wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:05 pmYeah, I AM including myself. I’m here living thru it. Trying to do my bit in not spreading this disease, playing the game until there is some sort of effective vaccine. And getting seriously ****** off at the arrogance and selfishness of others.
My point is very simple... we are about to lose a generation who proved themselves to be something quite special. (Yes, there were some scrotes there too) They (not all) lived thru years of hardships and came through the other side providing a better future for us all than was planned. They got amongst it when it mattered and we all live a better life because of it. Churchill called them “the few”. Yes, I know he was specifically talking about the BoB fighter pilots, but I am generalising again. There was a generation who put the collective good before their own personal gains. They had a conscience, and felt a responsibility to do the right things for all of us.
Well, we have our own “few” now don’t we. We should be referring to the NHS, the key workers and the carers who have done their absolute best to bring us thru this as best they can. Some of them have given their all in order to do just that, and they should be remembered as “the few” of this generation.... trouble is, every time there is a new weekend, we hear about “the few” who are just a bunch of selfish pricks, going about their own lives like everything is normal. Risking everything because they feel invincible. Having parties, illegal gatherings and raves with thousands in attendance who then go home to pass this **** onto their families etc. All because they are a bit fed up because they haven’t seen their mates for a few weeks.
Take a walk thru town and see how many are walking around in shops without masking up as they have been asked to do... cos they don’t have to cos they are special and “who’s gonna make me?”
Maybe it’s wrong to generalise as I have done, but quite obviously whilst criticising this generation for its selfishness over the current situation, I didn’t actually mean EVERYONE, but I suspect you knew that.
Anyway, whilst you are here getting upset about what I have said whilst ignoring the point, take it easy on beamish.... he’s written the whole town off as well as this forum, but please bear in mind he didn’t actually mean EVERYONE (even tho that’s what he wrote) who lives in the town, so cut him some slack please....
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I’m after no favours.... I am trying to put into context what is being asked of people...
It’s an example of how a generation can forge itself, and it’s a good example to follow. 5+ years of real hardship vs 5 months of staying home... yeah, it’s been tough alright.
That generation led by example, this generation have had an opportunity to show how much they care for others and the future... and far too many have blown it. All they were asked to do was follow a few simple rules designed to restrict the spread of this virus, just to help out like. Do their little bit. That’s it. And they have by and large, mugged it off... and it’s that attitude that has been really disappointing.