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Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:05 pm

Will hopefully be a decent game.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Aclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:17 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:05 pm
Will hopefully be a decent game.
Let's hope so, often 1st legs are cagey affairs.
I fancy a narrow away win.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pm

We' ll have the smallest crowds in the League next season unless one of these 2 get promoted.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:31 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pm
We' ll have the smallest crowds in the League next season unless one of these 2 get promoted.
I think it'll be Fulham that go up, but really hope it isn't.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:45 pm

Want Bees to win but they have been legless their last two games and Swansea must be on a massive high.
Brewster looks like one of the lucky ones kissed by the gods. Everything he tries ends up in the net.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:51 pm

:o What a terrible game

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by MACCA » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:59 pm

Was pinning my hopes on this being the game that provided me with watching some football today.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:00 pm

Swansea's manager looks like quasimodo ;)

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:55 pm

Swansea get a penalty but it's saved.

When I saw the short run up I did have my doubts.
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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 pm

Brentford down to 10 men

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 pm

Yet another pen where the standing foot points exactly where he places it. 9 out of 10 do this.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:57 pm

What a poor decision.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:58 pm

games gone now. Absolutely terrible decision

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:58 pm

I like Stroud but that is a terrible red card decision.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:59 pm

what a nonsense red card, game completely up it's own arse with abysmal refs

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Goodclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:10 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:59 pm
what a nonsense red card, game completely up it's own arse with abysmal refs
Dermot Gallagher has already come out and said the red card is the correct decision as the ball could have been seriously hurt.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:10 pm

Could be a crucial penalty miss in the context of the tie, i guess Rico Henry will miss the 2nd leg, and the final if Brentford get that far.

The pictures I've seen suggest it was a perfect tackle, but i haven't seen it in real time, so i might be wrong, but given the comments on this thread i doubt it.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:13 pm

B0llocks decision, the Swansea players got Henry sent off by pressuring a weak referee.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:13 pm

Swansea 1-0 up

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:15 pm

Are Brentford doing a ‘Reading 08/09?’

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:18 pm

Ayew atoning for his dreadful pen, Swansea needed that, if they can add a 2nd, Brentford face an uphill battle in the home leg.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:19 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:18 pm
Ayew atoning for his dreadful pen, Swansea needed that, if they can add a 2nd, Brentford face an uphill battle in the home leg.
Yeah, 1-0 isn't enough. They need a second.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:29 pm

Finished 1-0 tie very much in the balance.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:32 pm

Stroud - what a poor referee he is

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:45 pm

More proof, if it were needed, that the ball is not important in football these days. Safety of players takes precedence over everything, it is what the modern fans want.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm

So Henry has his red card overturned, however, when he was dismissed it was 0-0 and Swansea played for 30 minutes with 10 men in what was the first leg of this double-header.

How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?

I know that it's silly, however, the way that the game is going, nothing would surprise me!

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:21 pm

Good that it’s been overturned. For Brentford’s sake I hope it’s not too late.

As for what the fans want and the way football is going. I’ve not spoken to anyone who agreed it was a red card and the Football League clearly don’t think it was.

Perhaps it’s more accurate to say that it’s the way refereeing is going and that’s the problem.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:59 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm
How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?
That has the potential to be extremely complicated as there's so many variables at play, you could then say the player not playing in the second leg (for 30 minutes), isn't as good as the player who got wrongly dismissed. It would just be a nightmare and impossible to make fair, due to these variables.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:10 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:59 pm
That has the potential to be extremely complicated as there's so many variables at play, you could then say the player not playing in the second leg (for 30 minutes), isn't as good as the player who got wrongly dismissed. It would just be a nightmare and impossible to make fair, due to these variables.
Frank I know that, however, I have no confidence that those running the game these days will not think of some hair-brained scheme, after all, they introduced VAR so anything is possible.

Bordeaux thinks that it the way that refereeing is going that is at fault, however, when the Laws change as they have done and players can be penalised for endangering an opponent, making a reckless challenge, being out of control etc., etc. ad nauseam it will only get worse and there will be less consistency than there is now.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:19 pm

good job it wasn't a Cardiff or Swansea player, Welsh FA would have over turned it before he was off the pitch

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:12 pm

So who will be meeting Fulham in the final?

Brentford seem to be big favourites and I think they'd have more chance in the final, so would prefer them to win.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:39 pm

Fulham were quite impressive against Cardiff the other day, presuming they make the final, both Brentford and Swansea would have a job matching them.

Hope Brentford go all the way up though.
Be one relegation place filled.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:51 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm
So Henry has his red card overturned, however, when he was dismissed it was 0-0 and Swansea played for 30 minutes with 10 men in what was the first leg of this double-header.

How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?

I know that it's silly, however, the way that the game is going, nothing would surprise me!
Could make it easier by not giving Keith Stroud any games - bloody hell, this is the referee who didn't know what to do when a player encroached at a penalty. That got him suspended. He got away lightly.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Could make it easier by not giving Keith Stroud any games - bloody hell, this is the referee who didn't know what to do when a player encroached at a penalty. That got him suspended. He got away lightly.
Regardless of that cock-up, the game last week was his 94th since that incident in April 2017 and he is in his 16th season as a league referee and is a professional referee. Such is football these days because many young people are qualifying to become referees, however, they are then subjected to so much abuse at some matches that they just pack it in and this means that the older, experienced referees are not being replaced.
In local football up here in Northumberland there are a few guys in their 70s who have been asked to go out and perform just so games could take place.
By the way, I do not enjoy watching Stroud referee, it is time he packed in.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:19 pm

3 successive goalless games for Bees. I worry for them and can see Brewster grabbing one for Swans. Fingers crossed for Bees.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Rowls » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:24 pm

Come on you Beeeeees!

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:56 pm

1-0 Brentford

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 pm

Watkins scores.1-0

Just before FK, in corner, against Henry. I hate that decision. Swan 1ft away from him knocks the ball past him then runs into him. What is he supposed to do?

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 pm

Great move..great goal

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm

Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:01 pm

Come on Brentford!!!!!!!!

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:01 pm

2-0

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:02 pm

this could be done by half time, blowing Swansea away

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:03 pm

Well placed header for the second.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:03 pm

2-0

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:04 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
Her and Camm are brilliant at offside calls.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:07 pm

Nearly 3, hits the post. The makings of a good game this, Swans only losing by one on aggregate.
Next goal will sort things...

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Excellent I would love Brentford to come up.

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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:15 pm
Excellent I would love Brentford to come up.
Heart says this, head says not so we can maybe pick up a few of their players :lol:
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Re: Swansea City v Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:17 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
She’s an outstanding assistant referee. I’d put her alongside Andy Garratt, who is just retiring, and Darren Cann.

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