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Manager of the Season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:18 pm

Depends on the outcome of the cups but there must be a few contenders

Klopp got to be the favourite as they have been so good this season and bringing the title back to Liverpool after so long

Lampard and Solskjaer have done well to get the top 4 and if they win either the FA Cup and Europa League respectively there must have a decent case

Wilder IMO should get the award cos to keep Sheff Utd up would be an amazing achievement in itself but to finish top half and get so close to Europe is remarkable

Finally not a real contender but an honorable mention to Dean Smith as keeping a promoted team up at the first attempt is never easy though Villa are a big club so not quite the achievement of clubs like Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Sheff Utd

So Wilder for me, Klopp will get it (no complaints) but well done to a couple of inexperienced managers showing they can do well at massive clubs under a lot of pressure

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:21 pm

Wilder for me too. But that's not usually how these awards work so I expect it will go to Klopp.

I don't agree with Dean Smith though. Yes, it is difficult to stay up at the first attempt but I wouldn't say he's achieved anything remarkable.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:21 pm
I don't agree with Dean Smith though. Yes, it is difficult to stay up at the first attempt but I wouldn't say he's achieved anything remarkable.
Yep fair comment and was more just a side mention after all the grief he's got and with having to sign so many players I think to get it to all come together is worth some credit

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:29 pm

If Dyche didn't get it for getting us to 7th and Europe then Wilder etc have no chance.

It's going to end up with Klopp.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:32 pm

Wilder for me, played great football and out thought managers up and down the country with some unique tactics. If he was called Jose, Ferdinand, Klauss or similar he would be linked with a top 4 club.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:36 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:29 pm
If Dyche didn't get it for getting us to 7th and Europe then Wilder etc have no chance.

It's going to end up with Klopp.
It was Dyche's 3rd season in the Premier League whereas three years ago Wilder had just got Sheff Utd out of the third tier so Id say Wilders achievement is slightly better

That said I think Dyche should have won it that season but I also think its a bit bitter to base your views on Wilder this year on a decision that went against us a few years ago
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:41 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:36 pm
It was Dyche's 3rd season in the Premier League whereas three years ago Wilder had just got Sheff Utd out of the third tier so Id say Wilders achievement is slightly better

That said I think Dyche should have won it that season but I also think its a bit bitter to base your views on Wilder this year on a decision that went against us a few years ago
No bitterness here so not sure why you'd suggest it about from you're trolling again.

Dyche got us to 7th and many pundits etc were in agreement that he deserved manager of the year for that season.
There are similar comments about Wilder but it won't happen unfortunately.
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:44 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:41 pm
No bitterness here so not sure why you'd suggest it about from you're trolling again.

Dyche got us to 7th and many pundits etc were in agreement that he deserved manager of the year for that season.
There are similar comments about Wilder but it won't happen unfortunately.
Apologies misread your post and even if I had read it correctly then bitterness wasnt the right word. Agree with what you originally said entirely
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:48 pm

I think Nuno Espirito Santo deserves a mention too. As we briefly experienced balancing the Premier League with Europa football can be tough but Wolves have done really well on both fronts whilst playing some good football
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:49 pm

mention for Wilder for sure but Klopp has managed to get a team to finish that many points ahead of that City team is incredible

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:49 pm

Much as I hate to say it ... it has to be Klopp

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by DCWat » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:50 pm

Has to be Hodgson. Palace should be getting him signed up on a five year deal.
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:16 pm

If i had a vote i'd give it to Wilder, it's not just the fact Sheff Utd have finished so high on their 1st season back in the big time, it's the manner of their play that's caught the eye, and they haven't been overawed by the big clubs when they've faced them.

But i suspect it will go to Klopp.

Interestingly if you'd have asked this question at Xmas, i'd have probably said Brendan Rodgers would be a contender, but Leicester have gone downhill fast since then.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by exilecanada » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:22 pm

Klopp all the way for me, Wilder a close second.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by MT03ALG » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:25 pm

There is NO WAY that the Manager of the Season could be awarded to the Manager of Burnley F.C. since 1960 and probably not even then...

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:42 pm

Wilder is a serious contender, but guess it will go to Klopp understandably. Most people would not have been surprised to see Sheffield relegated. He really gets the best out of players ie Egan, Basham, Norwood, Lundsrom,Sharp, McGoldrick

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:34 pm

Wilder's post match interview is interesting- "we have to bring better players in", no messing about

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:35 pm

Wilder won it last year

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 pm

Doesn't the manager of the PL winning team always win this? Don't really pay much attention to the rich and famous patting each other on the back...

NES, CW or SD

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:44 pm

Pulis won manager of the year award (or one of the versions)

For finishing 11th with Crystal Palace!

So it should go to Dean Smith.
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:35 pm
Wilder won it last year
And remember when Chris Hughton got it despite not getting Brighton promoted.
Guess who finished as Champions.

Talk about stupid!
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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:49 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 pm
Doesn't the manager of the PL winning team always win this?
No - Wilder won it last year

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Fretters » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:51 pm

Smith has done well considering he lost his main striker and goalkeeper to injury at the turn of the year.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:51 pm

Cheers CT

Before Wilder, when was the last time someone other than the manager of the Champions won it? Genuinely don't know.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:28 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:49 pm
No - Wilder won it last year
He won the PL award last year? Thats some effort :D

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:28 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:34 pm
Wilder's post match interview is interesting- "we have to bring better players in", no messing about
Found it very strange. a Bit of humility at their efforts wouldnt go awry, regardless of who he wants to keep (and motivate!)

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:32 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:28 am
He won the PL award last year? Thats some effort :D
Out of all the leagues I think it means??

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 am

Liverpool have been on a different planet for most of the season. Klopp will get it and deservedly so.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:36 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:28 am
He won the PL award last year? Thats some effort :D
No, I didn't write that, I wrote that Wildeer had won the Manager of the Year for 2018/19. The overall award is not just for one division although the winner is more often than not from the PL. It's not the first time a manager from outside of the Premier League has won it, the award was won by Peter Reid (Sunderland, 1995/96), Danny Wilson (Barnsley 1996/97), Steve Coppell (Reading, 2006/07) and Eddie Howe (Bournemouth 2014/15)

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:37 am

Has to be Klopp.

Admirable shouts to Wilder, Santo, Dyche, Solskjaer and Lampard too.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:38 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:36 am
No, I didn't write that, I wrote that Wildeer had won the Manager of the Year for 2018/19. The overall award is not just for one division although the winner is more often than not from the PL. It's not the first time a manager from outside of the Premier League has won it, the award was won by Peter Reid (Sunderland, 1995/96), Danny Wilson (Barnsley 1996/97), Steve Coppell (Reading, 2006/07) and Eddie Howe (Bournemouth 2014/15)
Now that’s a list of names it’d have taken me a million years to guess. Peter Reid!!!

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:44 am

martin_p wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:38 am
Now that’s a list of names it’d have taken me a million years to guess. Peter Reid!!!
Reid went in at Sunderland towards the end of the 1994/95 season when they were with us, fighting against relegation to the third tier. We went down, Reid kept Sunderland up with a run of one defeat in nine games in charge. The following season they won the league. They did go straight back down but if you look at his record at Sunderland you can see why the fans up there loved him.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:47 am

Klippety Klopp ....

Nuff said

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:47 am

This is The Guardians five best managers of the season In the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2 ... the-season

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:52 am

Nuno never gets mentioned really but he's got a really good team there at Wolves.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by BennyD » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:58 am

IMO, Dean Smith shouldn’t be included in that short list. Sure, he brought a team up but spent well over £100m to push on and only managed to stay up on the last day. If he struggled to gel all 12 of his new players together, either he bought the wrong players, he didn’t have a workable system or he’s a cr4p manager. Any one of those should exclude him from being the manager of the season.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:03 pm

Not sure how Dean Smith is in that list. I'm not a great fan of Lampard, but he's more worthy of consderation due to transfer ban etc.

Staying up by the skin of their teeth after spending significant amounts of money (appreciate they have a sporting director there) while playing pretty ordinary football isn't the sign of top coaching. As often happens, dramatic escapes sometimes cloud over the actual performances of the team.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:52 am
Nuno never gets mentioned really but he's got a really good team there at Wolves.
I'm not sure when they announce Manager of the Season, but if Wolves go on to win the EL, he would be a contender, he's done remarkably well to keep them going over a whole calendar year, and surprisingly they don't often rotate their first XI, so that makes his efforts even more worthy of a mention.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:37 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:27 pm
I'm not sure when they announce Manager of the Season, but if Wolves go on to win the EL, he would be a contender, he's done remarkably well to keep them going over a whole calendar year, and surprisingly they don't often rotate their first XI, so that makes his efforts even more worthy of a mention.
Tonight I think is the announcement. For me, it has to be Klopp, but I'd have Nuno ahead of Wilder.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:14 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:03 pm
Not sure how Dean Smith is in that list. I'm not a great fan of Lampard, but he's more worthy of consderation due to transfer ban etc.

Staying up by the skin of their teeth after spending significant amounts of money (appreciate they have a sporting director there) while playing pretty ordinary football isn't the sign of top coaching. As often happens, dramatic escapes sometimes cloud over the actual performances of the team.
Agree Lampards very worthy winner done an excellent job.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:43 pm

4th - Marcelo Bielsa

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:43 pm

3rd - Gareth Ainsworth

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:43 pm

2nd - Chris Wilder

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:44 pm

Winner - Jürgen Klopp

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:10 pm

Can’t really argue with those placings. Wilder’s done a better job than Nuno imo (who I do like, particularly for his respectful opinions) - Wolves benefit greatly from the Mendes connections.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Well done to Chelsea manager Emma Hayes who won the womens top award tonight

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:40 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:48 pm
Well done to Chelsea manager Emma Hayes who won the womens top award tonight
She's been linked the England women's vacancy, her club record is impressive, and you do wonder what else she can achieve domestically at Chelsea, and i can't see them breaking their European duck anytime soon, so now might be the time to move on to the top job.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Paul Waine » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:26 pm

martin_p wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:47 am
This is The Guardians five best managers of the season In the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2 ... the-season
Sean Dyche
Some people are bored of Burnley. Sean Dyche might be one of them, in so far as he’d like to be given the financial latitude to expand his squad and embellish his style. In the meantime, he makes sure his team keeps beating others. Burnley won more matches than ever in the Premier League this season even though they lost one of their main strikers, Ashley Barnes, to injury halfway through. They won at Old Trafford and were the only away team to take a point at Anfield. They kept more clean sheets than everyone but Liverpool and Manchester City. Players such as James Tarkowski and Nick Pope have developed into England internationals and Dwight McNeil is one of the most exciting young talents in the league. Burnley may not be fashionable, but they are going to be a force in the top flight for at least as long as they have Dyche.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:43 pm

Sean Dyche all day long.
finishing where we did and doing so with spending money of around fifty pence to put together a side capable of taking on on the filthy rich and often bettering them.
No contest.

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Re: Manager of the Season

Post by BennyD » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:56 pm

Personally, I reckon SD did a better job than Bielsa. I’m hoping he does the same next season as well.

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