Dean Smith to go at Villa

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Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:25 pm

Seems he's on his way to be replaced by .....................

Bruno Lage

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 pm

Any relation to Eddie?
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:37 pm

Harsh if true reward for success is the sack

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Longsider » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:39 pm

Would be a good appointment. He was in the running before and has done well in Portugal since.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:42 pm

Hasnt he recently been sacked by Benfica after the worst run of results in their history ?
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:45 pm

Another club where SD cant go if true. As bad a timing as Nigel Perasons sacking. However with so much money in the PL it shows how pro-active decisions can be

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:49 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:42 pm
Hasnt he recently been sacked by Benfica after the worst run of results in their history ?
Equalled the worst run of 2001 season I was just reading.

Sounds perfect, foreign name etc.
Spent time as assist manager/coach at a few English clubs.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Bigvince » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Where you got info from CT?

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Potential suitors for SD just get thinner and thinner.

In a selfless way, I feel for him. He's done an outstanding job but who would want him? It's that tier above us that appear to have shunned him in the past: Everton, Villa, Palace types.

It's not something I like. 'Our' Premier League is anything but 'ours'. It is now dominated by foreign owners, managers and players. It's become a mechanism to sell Sky subscriptions and that is who it primarily serves. The England football team and grassroots certainly don't appear to be the primary recipients of its success. Another argument for another thread on a different day.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by WazzaClaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
Agreed, if its true I hope villa go down with the lowest points total in history!

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm

Don't forget Villa have a Director of Football - he recruited the players not Smith, no doubt he made the decision on the manager - it is his job

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Where you got info from CT?
it's all over Twitter on some reasonably in the know accounts, how in the know though we will see
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Bigvince » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:56 pm

Clubs with ideas above their station, always go for the fancy sounding names as managers! It’s seems a Fred Smith, Tom brown or a Bill Jones, isn’t exotic enough

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by thelaughingclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:59 pm

Portuguese players and Portuguese mangers are the new in thing for premier league teams to have now.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Zlatan » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:00 pm

Bruno Lage...

Sounds like a Sacha Baron Cohen character
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by jedi_master » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:02 pm

Another Jorge Mendes job by the looks of it. That lad makes a very tidy sum for basically ringing CEO’s up and peddling his mates wares.

It stinks though. Smith has got them up, kept them up (yes, with a lot of luck and having spent a TON) all whilst dealing with his Dad sadly dying in the last couple of months. It shows the type of scruples that club has. I hope it goes disastrously wrong for them and there’s every chance it will do.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by dsr » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:23 pm

Excelent news if true. Not about Smith, of course, but about Villa not wanting Sean Dyche.

As long as all the teams that are - or think they are - "bigger" or "better" than Burnley carry on wanting foreigners to manage them, then there won't be many clubs left with the clout to tempt him away.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:45 pm

Absolute rubbish. Dean will be manager next season and there should be no debate now.

The very reliable John Percy on twitter

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:55 pm

The big difference between next season and this is that Dean Smith may be in charge but if Villa are in the bottom three after six matches or so then they will almost certainly pull the trigger.

He probably knows that anytime spent in the relegation places will mean the end for him. They will expect much better

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:56 pm

Bruno Lage...sounds more like a Bond villain than a footy manager.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by BennyD » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:57 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
Scraping survival on the last day of the season is not what the backers were looking for when they spunked £100m plus in last year’s closed season. However, if Grealish goes, next season’s task is made harder, and I doubt that will be happy to spunk another shitload of cash letting a new manager try a new way forward.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:20 pm

Been a complete mix up. Bruno Lage Is taking over a club in Portugal which is owned by the Villa owner.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:20 pm
Been a complete mix up. Bruno Lage Is taking over a club in Portugal which is owned by the Villa owner.
Oh dear. So lets hope they stick with Smith. :|

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm

It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:29 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm
It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !
Its even worse than that.
Bruno Lage is just the postman for the bloke who owns a villa in Portugal

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Leisure » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:30 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm
It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !
It's even worse than that, as he only rents it! ;)

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:36 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:30 pm
It's even worse than that, as he only rents it! ;)
Worse than that..I've heard it is only a timeshare :o

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by COBBLE » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:14 am

There you go Sean, start repacking your suit case.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:24 am

It's worse than that now.
The postman has been sacked for going large, they want SD as a replacement.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by MACCA » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:57 am

Kept them up with more luck than judgement. They were on a decline, so IMO right thing to do.

No point leaving it until it's too late again and another 150m has been spent.

I think them being pro active rather than reactive will pay them back.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:03 am

It’s worse than that, we’re in for his brother Pinto Lage.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 am

Let’s hope he stays to finish 19 points behind us again.....

Tbh he was very annoying most of the season with his comments after games. You would have thought his team were like the Real Madrid of Puskas and Di Stefano given his comments from most of the games he didn’t win. Particularly embarrassing after our 2 - 2 draw.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:42 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
didnt the same happen to steve bruce at villa?

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by TVC15 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:51 am

It’s a well know fact (probably) that 99% of all football rumours come from the “Chinese whispers” methodology of passing on information to others - which I know will probably come as a surprise to many in these days of modern technology.

So the latest one I have heard is a quote from Mr Garlick who has said “ I have BACKED Sean Dyche and I say this with no MALICE”

Sssshhh pass it on....

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:00 am

Doesn’t surprise me with the cut throat nature of football management, I think I read once Ian Holloway saying when he gets appointed he doesn’t even properly unpack as he knows he’ll be moving on again shortly.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by burnmark » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm

Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... e-survival

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:10 pm

burnmark wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com//news/11677/1 ... e-survival
That's a surprise, I didn't think they would pot him after the way things turned around for them. Still he will get some compo I suppose :lol: :lol:

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:15 pm

burnmark wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... e-survival
If this is the board saying they're backing the manager then that's not good - managers often seem to leave by 'mutual consent' not long after.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:15 pm

At least we know that's one club below us next season

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:51 am
It’s a well know fact (probably) that 99% of all football rumours come from the “Chinese whispers” methodology of passing on information to others - which I know will probably come as a surprise to many in these days of modern technology.

So the latest one I have heard is a quote from Mr Garlick who has said “ I have BACKED Sean Dyche and I say this with no MALICE”

Sssshhh pass it on....
I heard a quote from Mike Garlick yesterday "I have backed my car into a ditch, while I was on the phone talking to Steve Parrish"

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by TVC15 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:39 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 pm
I heard a quote from Mike Garlick yesterday "I have backed my car into a ditch, while I was on the phone talking to Steve Parrish"
Cheers I’ll pass on your message - so you said :

“I’ve sacked Sean Dyche as he said he’s off to Palace”

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by joey13 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:17 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 pm
Any relation to Eddie?
Ask Syd ,he’s got a hotline to Eddie :o

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by KRBFC » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:45 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm
Don't forget Villa have a Director of Football - he recruited the players not Smith, no doubt he made the decision on the manager - it is his job
I’ll never understand why managers don’t have the final say on recruitment at some clubs. Pretty sure it’s the same thing at Everton, 1 business person forcing new recruits onto a football manager. The Villa recruitment was shocking too but if relegated that would’ve been laid upon the door of Smith by everyone. “Smith spent £130M and still got relegated”.
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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:18 pm

That Sporting Director/Director of Football has just been sacked for the poor recruitment last summer

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by BennyD » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:52 pm

Quite right too in my opinion. The only good buy he made was Tom Heaton.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 pm

BennyD wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:52 pm
Quite right too in my opinion. The only good buy he made was Tom Heaton.
Who Smith had to fight for I understand

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by dougcollins » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05 pm

Not fussed who manages Villa so long as they finish below us.

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:23 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 pm
Who Smith had to fight for I understand
So Smith doesn't get a say on all the signings?

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Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:29 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05 pm
Not fussed who manages Villa so long as they finish below us.
So long as it's not Sean Dyche i'm pretty relaxed about who they appoint, let's deal with our own house, and leave the rest to sort their affairs out as they see fit.
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