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Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:25 pm
by ClaretTony
Seems he's on his way to be replaced by .....................

Bruno Lage

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Any relation to Eddie?

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:37 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Harsh if true reward for success is the sack

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:39 pm
by Longsider
Would be a good appointment. He was in the running before and has done well in Portugal since.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:42 pm
by randomclaret2
Hasnt he recently been sacked by Benfica after the worst run of results in their history ?

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:45 pm
by warksclaret
Another club where SD cant go if true. As bad a timing as Nigel Perasons sacking. However with so much money in the PL it shows how pro-active decisions can be

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:49 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:42 pm
Hasnt he recently been sacked by Benfica after the worst run of results in their history ?
Equalled the worst run of 2001 season I was just reading.

Sounds perfect, foreign name etc.
Spent time as assist manager/coach at a few English clubs.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
by Bigvince
Where you got info from CT?

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
by ksrclaret
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:54 pm
by JimmyRobbo
Potential suitors for SD just get thinner and thinner.

In a selfless way, I feel for him. He's done an outstanding job but who would want him? It's that tier above us that appear to have shunned him in the past: Everton, Villa, Palace types.

It's not something I like. 'Our' Premier League is anything but 'ours'. It is now dominated by foreign owners, managers and players. It's become a mechanism to sell Sky subscriptions and that is who it primarily serves. The England football team and grassroots certainly don't appear to be the primary recipients of its success. Another argument for another thread on a different day.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:54 pm
by WazzaClaret
ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
Agreed, if its true I hope villa go down with the lowest points total in history!

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm
by Chester Perry
Don't forget Villa have a Director of Football - he recruited the players not Smith, no doubt he made the decision on the manager - it is his job

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm
by Vegas Claret
Bigvince wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Where you got info from CT?
it's all over Twitter on some reasonably in the know accounts, how in the know though we will see

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:56 pm
by Bigvince
Clubs with ideas above their station, always go for the fancy sounding names as managers! It’s seems a Fred Smith, Tom brown or a Bill Jones, isn’t exotic enough

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:59 pm
by thelaughingclaret
Portuguese players and Portuguese mangers are the new in thing for premier league teams to have now.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:00 pm
by Zlatan
Bruno Lage...

Sounds like a Sacha Baron Cohen character

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:02 pm
by jedi_master
Another Jorge Mendes job by the looks of it. That lad makes a very tidy sum for basically ringing CEO’s up and peddling his mates wares.

It stinks though. Smith has got them up, kept them up (yes, with a lot of luck and having spent a TON) all whilst dealing with his Dad sadly dying in the last couple of months. It shows the type of scruples that club has. I hope it goes disastrously wrong for them and there’s every chance it will do.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:23 pm
by dsr
Excelent news if true. Not about Smith, of course, but about Villa not wanting Sean Dyche.

As long as all the teams that are - or think they are - "bigger" or "better" than Burnley carry on wanting foreigners to manage them, then there won't be many clubs left with the clout to tempt him away.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:45 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Absolute rubbish. Dean will be manager next season and there should be no debate now.

The very reliable John Percy on twitter

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:55 pm
by Spijed
The big difference between next season and this is that Dean Smith may be in charge but if Villa are in the bottom three after six matches or so then they will almost certainly pull the trigger.

He probably knows that anytime spent in the relegation places will mean the end for him. They will expect much better

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:56 pm
by Vino blanco
Bruno Lage...sounds more like a Bond villain than a footy manager.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:57 pm
by BennyD
ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
Scraping survival on the last day of the season is not what the backers were looking for when they spunked £100m plus in last year’s closed season. However, if Grealish goes, next season’s task is made harder, and I doubt that will be happy to spunk another shitload of cash letting a new manager try a new way forward.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:20 pm
by ClaretTony
Been a complete mix up. Bruno Lage Is taking over a club in Portugal which is owned by the Villa owner.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 pm
by ElectroClaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:20 pm
Been a complete mix up. Bruno Lage Is taking over a club in Portugal which is owned by the Villa owner.
Oh dear. So lets hope they stick with Smith. :|

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm
by TVC15
It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:29 pm
by Devils_Advocate
TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm
It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !
Its even worse than that.
Bruno Lage is just the postman for the bloke who owns a villa in Portugal

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:30 pm
by Leisure
TVC15 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 pm
It’s worse than that
Bruno Lage is simply a bloke who owns a villa in Portugal !
It's even worse than that, as he only rents it! ;)

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:36 pm
by Somethingfishy
Leisure wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:30 pm
It's even worse than that, as he only rents it! ;)
Worse than that..I've heard it is only a timeshare :o

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:14 am
by COBBLE
There you go Sean, start repacking your suit case.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:24 am
by Nonayforever
It's worse than that now.
The postman has been sacked for going large, they want SD as a replacement.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:57 am
by MACCA
Kept them up with more luck than judgement. They were on a decline, so IMO right thing to do.

No point leaving it until it's too late again and another 150m has been spent.

I think them being pro active rather than reactive will pay them back.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:03 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
It’s worse than that, we’re in for his brother Pinto Lage.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 am
by Hibsclaret
Let’s hope he stays to finish 19 points behind us again.....

Tbh he was very annoying most of the season with his comments after games. You would have thought his team were like the Real Madrid of Puskas and Di Stefano given his comments from most of the games he didn’t win. Particularly embarrassing after our 2 - 2 draw.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:42 am
by cricketfieldclarets
ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Absolutely charming. Dean Smith, a lifelong Villa fan, takes them from mediocrity in the Championship back into the Premier League and keeps them there. They then pot him in favour of some inexperienced Portuguese bloke who was sacked from his previous role. Dean Smith's father also passed away in difficult circumstances while he was battling away trying to keep his team up.

I really, really dislike the world of football sometimes.
didnt the same happen to steve bruce at villa?

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:51 am
by TVC15
It’s a well know fact (probably) that 99% of all football rumours come from the “Chinese whispers” methodology of passing on information to others - which I know will probably come as a surprise to many in these days of modern technology.

So the latest one I have heard is a quote from Mr Garlick who has said “ I have BACKED Sean Dyche and I say this with no MALICE”

Sssshhh pass it on....

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:00 am
by Jakubclaret
Doesn’t surprise me with the cut throat nature of football management, I think I read once Ian Holloway saying when he gets appointed he doesn’t even properly unpack as he knows he’ll be moving on again shortly.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm
by burnmark
Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... e-survival

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:10 pm
by mdd2
burnmark wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com//news/11677/1 ... e-survival
That's a surprise, I didn't think they would pot him after the way things turned around for them. Still he will get some compo I suppose :lol: :lol:

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:15 pm
by FactualFrank
burnmark wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Rob Dorsett reporting that Smith’s job is ‘100% secure.’

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... e-survival
If this is the board saying they're backing the manager then that's not good - managers often seem to leave by 'mutual consent' not long after.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:15 pm
by Spijed
At least we know that's one club below us next season

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 pm
by Bosscat
TVC15 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:51 am
It’s a well know fact (probably) that 99% of all football rumours come from the “Chinese whispers” methodology of passing on information to others - which I know will probably come as a surprise to many in these days of modern technology.

So the latest one I have heard is a quote from Mr Garlick who has said “ I have BACKED Sean Dyche and I say this with no MALICE”

Sssshhh pass it on....
I heard a quote from Mike Garlick yesterday "I have backed my car into a ditch, while I was on the phone talking to Steve Parrish"

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:39 pm
by TVC15
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 pm
I heard a quote from Mike Garlick yesterday "I have backed my car into a ditch, while I was on the phone talking to Steve Parrish"
Cheers I’ll pass on your message - so you said :

“I’ve sacked Sean Dyche as he said he’s off to Palace”

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:17 pm
by joey13
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 pm
Any relation to Eddie?
Ask Syd ,he’s got a hotline to Eddie :o

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:45 pm
by KRBFC
Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 pm
Don't forget Villa have a Director of Football - he recruited the players not Smith, no doubt he made the decision on the manager - it is his job
I’ll never understand why managers don’t have the final say on recruitment at some clubs. Pretty sure it’s the same thing at Everton, 1 business person forcing new recruits onto a football manager. The Villa recruitment was shocking too but if relegated that would’ve been laid upon the door of Smith by everyone. “Smith spent £130M and still got relegated”.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:18 pm
by Chester Perry
That Sporting Director/Director of Football has just been sacked for the poor recruitment last summer

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:52 pm
by BennyD
Quite right too in my opinion. The only good buy he made was Tom Heaton.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 pm
by Chester Perry
BennyD wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:52 pm
Quite right too in my opinion. The only good buy he made was Tom Heaton.
Who Smith had to fight for I understand

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05 pm
by dougcollins
Not fussed who manages Villa so long as they finish below us.

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:23 pm
by Spijed
Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 pm
Who Smith had to fight for I understand
So Smith doesn't get a say on all the signings?

Re: Dean Smith to go at Villa

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:29 pm
by tiger76
dougcollins wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05 pm
Not fussed who manages Villa so long as they finish below us.
So long as it's not Sean Dyche i'm pretty relaxed about who they appoint, let's deal with our own house, and leave the rest to sort their affairs out as they see fit.