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Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by MRG » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:46 pm

Apparently Chelsea are interested in signing Pope according to the papers this evening

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:46 pm

Also interested in the Ajax keeper.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Aclaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:47 pm

It's started

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:51 pm

From February: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footba ... 707487.amp

If they sell their keeper for 50 million, then surely that's the sort of fee we should be wanting - at least.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm

I dont want him to leave but if he does go and we sell him for a penny less than £20m I wont be best pleased
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:56 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm
I dont want him to leave but if he does go and we sell him for a penny less than £20m I wont be best pleased
Sean...just dig your feet in!

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:57 pm

Would expect much more than £20 million

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Aclaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:58 pm

Willian + 10 million = good deal.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:58 pm

Be surprising if clubs like Chelsea weren't interested.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Considering they paid over 70 (SEVENTY) million Great British pounds for Kepa, who is utter shite, they can cough up at least similar.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:05 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:03 pm
Considering they paid over 70 (SEVENTY) million Great British pounds for Kepa, who is utter shite, they can cough up at least similar.
Yes but that was £10m for his goalkeeping and £60m for kicking.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Rowls » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:09 pm

After yesterday, Pope's headed clearances are worth £9 million alone.

His goalkeeping, £60.675 million and his kicking £325,000.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:14 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:46 pm
Also interested in the Ajax keeper.
Not bad that Ajax Keeper ... cleans up any mistakes by his back four 🙂
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:17 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:57 pm
Would expect much more than £20 million
I would expect something close to triple that

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by CBT » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:17 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm
I dont want him to leave but if he does go and we sell him for a penny less than £20m I wont be best pleased
From Chelsea?
Would want closer to 35mil
They won't get a top class international keeper for less than 45-50 mil and United won't give Henderson up to them
Time to play hardball everyone else is and hopefully we're still in a position financially to do the same

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:18 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:14 pm
Not bad that Ajax Keeper ... cleans up any mistakes by his back four 🙂
I thought my jokes were bad :D
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:29 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:58 pm
Willian + 10 million = good deal.
Willian is out of contract, or will be very soon.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:30 pm

£60m.

Or £300m for Billy Mercer.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by MACCA » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Kurt Zouma, Victor Moses , and 25m should do it.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Lord_Bob » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 pm

Said it before, 50M for Pope from Chelsea and we buy Tom back for 5M from Villa. Good bit of business that.....
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:39 pm

Who's Tom Back?
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:40 pm

If Kepa was £70m then Popes worth at least that if not more, we shouldn’t be selling anyway

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:46 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm
I dont want him to leave but if he does go and we sell him for a penny less than £20m I wont be best pleased
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:50 pm

£50m and Connor Gallagher he looks a real prospect at Swansea on loan

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:11 pm

Has to be more than 70 - a lot more

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:19 pm

The good thing is Nick is grounded. I think he likes it here, and although going to a team like Chelsra would be attractive, I don't think he'd rock the boat if Chelsea don't meet Birnleys valuation.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:21 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:40 pm
If Kepa was £70m then Popes worth at least that if not more, we shouldn’t be selling anyway
Half as much again more like. Let's try 100m
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:23 pm

Nick's tied to a long contract, so if suitors come calling we can demand a decent wedge, i'd say we should be asking £40-50m.

But do we even know that Nick wants to move, i know Chelsea is a big draw and they're in the CL, but would he be guaranteed to be 1st choice if he goes to them.

It might help our cause in keeping him if he was to become the England number one, but that depends on Gareth.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by what_no_pies » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:03 am

If he signs for Chelsea he'd double his wages and get straight in the England team. It seems highly likely he'd be tempted, and so would we at £50 million. That price tag must be realistic since it's the same club that splurged £70m on a bag of spanners.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Wile E Coyote » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:08 am

tell them they can have him for 200 million, he's virtually got us in the top half of the league with his feet and hands and head and chest and know how. brilliant keeper.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by HunterST_BFC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:54 am

I hope he does not go anywhere.

If he does we should insist on a direct payment via Papal...



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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:56 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm
I dont want him to leave but if he does go and we sell him for a penny less than £20m I wont be best pleased
Genius 😂😂😂

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:08 am

Nick still has a weakness in his game in terms of using his feet for distribution.
How many times have we seen him overhit balls either straight to the other gk or straight off the pitch
I just don't see any of the "big" clubs coming in for him
No complaints with that

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:40 am

For a Southern lad the prospect of playing for Chelsea is probably quite appealing. He'd also earn more money, get to play in the Champions league and improve his chances of playing for England. Doesn't mean we should be selling him on the cheap though, especially with his contract situation. 40 million minimum.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by buzzclarets79 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 am

Surprised it's taken this long for him to be linked, if there is any interest I suspect Pope will want to know he will be first choice, can't see him moving to sit on the bench for any team. I'd hate to see him go but can see the appeal and why he would want the move, but we seem to know exactly what we are doing in the keeper department, in fact I'd be more concerned about losing BM the GK coach than NP at the moment.
Chelsea are shocking at defending set pieces and the way NP commands his area and catches high balls would def improve them no end.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:58 am

Just early speculation , highly unlikely Chelsea will want him due to the almost preposterous modern requirement for almost perfect “ players feet” which Pope clearly doesn’t have ,he has very decent “ keepers feet” though and “ dangerous errors” are very rare as opposed to these fancy dans almost inevitably giving goals away . He’s very Very valuable to us due to his remarkable aerial command .
Though 30/40mill of course he goes .
Often Pope’s long kicks are dictated by our occasional requirements and will of course go askew at times due to the random nature .Though a slightly too long Pope kick is a “ wonderful long range pass that the forward couldn’t quite reach” for a top 6 club .
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by bfcjg » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:10 am

Let's not forget we have a handy keeper on the bench Bailey Peacock Farrel who Mercer will be working on. Pope came in and the rest is history, so could this lad.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:27 am

bfcjg wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:10 am
Let's not forget we have a handy keeper on the bench Bailey Peacock Farrel who Mercer will be working on. Poor came in and the rest is history, so could this lad.
Absolutely. When Pope came in I didn't expect him to turn out this good. I thought we'd be knackered if we ever lost Heaton.
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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Turfy Topper » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:02 pm

I think his weaknesses would be exposed if he went to another club. Not a great kicker of the dead ball, not comfortable with the ball at his feet, goes for too many shots with his feet and not vocal enough.

He is well protected here with our style of defending and I would think any capable keeper could replace him and have just as many clean sheets. If we were offered £30m plus I would sell.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:16 pm

Turfy Topper wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:02 pm
I think his weaknesses would be exposed if he went to another club. Not a great kicker of the dead ball, not comfortable with the ball at his feet, goes for too many shots with his feet and not vocal enough.

He is well protected here with our style of defending and I would think any capable keeper could replace him and have just as many clean sheets. If we were offered £30m plus I would sell.
Sorry disagree. He is receiving attention because his record earns him attention. He is also very different than pretty much any keeper in the league because he places effective above photo opportunity goalkeeping. His focus is something that coaches rate very highly. We are talking About a full England international.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:33 pm

Turfy Topper wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:02 pm
I think his weaknesses would be exposed if he went to another club. Not a great kicker of the dead ball, not comfortable with the ball at his feet, goes for too many shots with his feet and not vocal enough.

He is well protected here with our style of defending and I would think any capable keeper could replace him and have just as many clean sheets. If we were offered £30m plus I would sell.
He was certainly exposed against Liverpool yet managed to pull off a couple of outstanding saves.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Bertiebeehead » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:27 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:30 pm
£60m.

Or £300m for Billy Mercer.
I assume that if Dyche goes so does Mercer as part of his backroom team.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:43 pm

He’s a homegrown player, he’s a full England International, he came second in the golden glove this season and he’s a much much better goalkeeper than the last one Chelsea singed for £70m that’s SEVENTY MILLION POUNDS.

Given that I’d be telling Chelsea to cough up the same or trot on back down to London and look elsewhere.

I like the idea of Conor Gallagher as part of a swap though whoever mentioned that, I’d take a smaller fee and a few players in exchange , which is even more unlikely a scenario

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:34 pm

FAO Hedontplayforyou
I did.Its a sad day if Nick moves on but Connor Gallagher looks class and we could bring in Ramesdale at Championship Bournemouth for a keeper

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:45 pm

Bertiebeehead wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:27 pm
I assume that if Dyche goes so does Mercer as part of his backroom team.
Mercer was here before Dyche so not necessarily although more than likely as they seem a great team along with woan and the rest.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:46 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:43 pm
He’s a homegrown player, he’s a full England International, he came second in the golden glove this season and he’s a much much better goalkeeper than the last one Chelsea singed for £70m that’s SEVENTY MILLION POUNDS.

Given that I’d be telling Chelsea to cough up the same or trot on back down to London and look elsewhere.

I like the idea of Conor Gallagher as part of a swap though whoever mentioned that, I’d take a smaller fee and a few players in exchange , which is even more unlikely a scenario
Problem of taking other players on is it means we get a smaller fee and end up having to pay more out in wages.

There’s no doubt if Chelsea really want pope he would definitely want to go there. There’s no chance he would stay here if they wanted him as number one. And no way we should stop him either.

As for this nonsense about his kicking. Yes he’s no pirlo. But I don’t get the obsession. It’s like not wanting aguero as he can’t tackle.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:24 pm

Paper talk that Chelsea want Henderson, willing to offer £55million to Utd and £170k a week to the player.

He's 5yrs younger than Pope, but less experienced in the top flight, just about, and yet to feature for England.

We would be foolish to accept anything less than £30 million for Pope, as Pickford went for that amount 3 yrs ago after just one season in the PL with Sunderland but he's still struggling to have consistently good seasons.

The fact that Pope has finished above the 2 most expensive keepers in the world helps our case for a high fee.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:10 pm

You see if Pope was at say Man Utd he would be worth 80 million now at Burnley the same player is worth half that much , hummmm boils my blood

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by aggi » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:00 pm

His value will probably be a bit depressed as three decent goalkeepers were relegated.

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Re: Nick Pope - Chelsea

Post by Dyched » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:06 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:10 pm
You see if Pope was at say Man Utd he would be worth 80 million now at Burnley the same player is worth half that much , hummmm boils my blood
All depends on who wants the player and who he plays for.

Say West Ham wanted Pope. It’ll cost them more than what it would Man U for instance. Their in our “mini” league so to speak. It’s the same for top players at top clubs. If Pope was at Man U, Chelsea (for arguments sake) would have to pay far more than Real Madrid.

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