Norwich City

[Jakubs Tash]

Quick start to the window for them - they have signed about 4 players in the last few days!

Preparing for a small exodus?

[Quickenthetempo]

Sounds like a club with long term plans.

Which you need if you haven't much cash.

[NewClaret]

Hope that explains our lack of activity - waiting for Norwich to pick up replacements for Buendia and Cantwell.

[martin_p]

Sounds like a club with long term plans.

Which you need if you haven't much cash.

Maybe if they had better long term plans they wouldn’t keep getting relegated.

[Quickenthetempo]

Maybe if they had better long term plans they wouldn’t keep getting relegated.

I'm not privy to their long term plans but seemed to remember people saying they would take the money and run at the end of the season, pay off their debts and come back down before the wage bill got too high.

Which it does very quickly.

Relegation for us now would hit us far harder.

[ClaretTony]

I'm not privy to their long term plans but seemed to remember people saying they would take the money and run at the end of the season, pay off their debts and come back down before the wage bill got too high.

Which it does very quickly.

Relegation for us now would hit us far harder.

They will be going down a lot better off financially than they went up given the lack of transfer activity in their last two windows.

[Quickenthetempo]

They will be going down a lot better off financially than they went up given the lack of transfer activity in their last two windows.

Yeah, it's probably the only way to keep financially secure. You can keep the wage bill low by yo-yoing.

3 years in the prem and you will have around a hundred million wage bill.

It's tough for us small clubs.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I'm not privy to their long term plans but seemed to remember people saying they would take the money and run at the end of the season, pay off their debts and come back down before the wage bill got too high.

Which it does very quickly.

Relegation for us now would hit us far harder.

Fairly sure we'd have relegation clauses, especially after watching clubs like Sunderland, Wolves etc get relegated without having those sorts of clauses.

[Quickenthetempo]

Fairly sure we'd have relegation clauses, especially after watching clubs like Sunderland, Wolves etc get relegated without having those sorts of clauses.

I'm not sure.

But I would think most premier league players would get reduced to our wage level if they had a relegation clause?

I think our safety net is no bonuses will be paid out which makes a big chunk of the wage bill up.

[Foulthrow]

Why would a player agree to a relegation clause? Given that there’s normally a number of clubs interested when a player becomes available surely the player chooses the most secure and lucrative contract.

[NewClaret]

Why would a player agree to a relegation clause? Given that there’s normally a number of clubs interested when a player becomes available surely the player chooses the most secure and lucrative contract.

Would imagine all of ours have a right to leave if we get relegated but also will be subject to reduced basic. Incentives/bonus will definitely be reduced so their earning potential massively diminishes here anyway.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Why would a player agree to a relegation clause? Given that there’s normally a number of clubs interested when a player becomes available surely the player chooses the most secure and lucrative contract.

Probably only 7-8 clubs who can pretty much guarantee that they won't get relegated.
Any other club with sense will insist on a relegation clause.
Wolves didn't and were paying Jamie O'Hara £40k a week in league 1, same with Sunderland and Rodwell but he was one closer to £70k a week.

Our club is far better ran and our bonus structure is the key.

[Down_Rover]

This relegation clause intrigues me. I suspect they are as common as hens teeth

As said above, why would any player agree to it?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

This relegation clause intrigues me. I suspect they are as common as hens teeth

As said above, why would any player agree to it?

Why would any but a select few clubs not insist on them is probably the question you should be asking.

There's talk of a wage cap in the championship and it could well happen due to Covid etc.
Relegation clauses should be mandatory for every league if they want to stop more scenarios like Bolton, Leeds, Sunderland etc so relegated clubs can straight away fit into any wage cap for the league below.

If a player doesn't agree to one then a club won't sign him.
If that club is the only one giving a player a chance to step up a league then they hold the upper hand.

[Down_Rover]

Why would any but a select few clubs not insist on them is probably the question you should be asking.

There's talk of a wage cap in the championship and it could well happen due to Covid etc.
Relegation clauses should be mandatory for every league if they want to stop more scenarios like Bolton, Leeds, Sunderland etc so relegated clubs can straight away fit into any wage cap for the league below.

If a player doesn't agree to one then a club won't sign him.
If that club is the only one giving a player a chance to step up a league then they hold the upper hand.

They can insist on a relegation clause as much as they want. But it is a free market and those players who won’t accept a relegation clause will just sign for Bolton, Leeds, Sunderland plus Villa and others who will pay thru the nose

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They can insist on a relegation clause as much as they want. But it is a free market and those players who won’t accept a relegation clause will just sign for Bolton, Leeds, Sunderland plus Villa and others who will pay thru the nose

If that's the case then they're not the right players for us quite simply.
We have a very good bonus structure, our players know that and its one of those things that keeps them motivated.

[Foulthrow]

Isn’t the average wage in the Championship something like £16k a week? Good luck trying to enforce a salary cap or relegation clauses in that bonkers division. I

Isn’t Mitrovic on about £80k a week at Fulham?

Would people prefer it if footballers were paid less so owners make more money? There’s not many industries out there that are as meritocratic as football.

[Vegas Claret]

Isn’t the average wage in the Championship something like £16k a week? Good luck trying to enforce a salary cap or relegation clauses in that bonkers division. I

Isn’t Mitrovic on about £80k a week at Fulham?

Would people prefer it if footballers were paid less so owners make more money? There’s not many industries out there that are as meritocratic as football.

Mitrovic is on 60k a week.............insane number in the Championship

[KRBFC]

Mitrovic is on 60k a week.............insane number in the Championship

But at any moment they can sell him for £25m+ and recoup the outlay and cut his wages off the overall wage bill.

[dsr]

This relegation clause intrigues me. I suspect they are as common as hens teeth

As said above, why would any player agree to it?

Because not every player is in massive demand. If Burnley want to sign John Smith and off him £25k per week but halved if we go down, and next best offer is £6k per week, he would probably take it I reckon.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Mitrovic is on 60k a week.............insane number in the Championship

Shelvey at Newcastle was rumoured to be on £70k, as was Rodwell at Sunderland and he wasn't even playing.

[joey13]

Because not every player is in massive demand. If Burnley want to sign John Smith and off him £25k per week but halved if we go down, and next best offer is £6k per week, he would probably take it I reckon.

Is Smithy any good ?

[BenWickes]

Is Smithy any good ?

Beat me to it

[evensteadiereddie]

He might be a decent footballer but he brews shite ale.
His adverts are pretty good, tbf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaIw829Yxk

[JohnMac]

I heard recently that Steven Fletcher was on £60k per week at Sheffield Wednesday, madness personified.