Brentford will struggle in the Premier league

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:35 pm

If Brentford make it up they will really struggle.

They have a lot of technically gifted players but there finishing and defence is really quite poor.

Benrahma is very good but he has missed at least 3 clear cut chances.

Let’s hope they go up. I imagine it will be another Norwich

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:36 pm

They'll need big time investment, its true.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:38 pm

Whoever wins the playoffs will struggle.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:49 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:38 pm
Whoever wins the playoffs will struggle.

Think Fulham will have learned a lot from last time. Another 100 million on players will help too.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:49 pm
Think Fulham will have learned a lot from last time. Another 100 million on players will help too.

If they throw another £100m at it, it will probably prove that they learnt nothing.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:51 pm

Hopefully they'll run us close to winning the Premier League.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:53 pm

Sky Sports are employing The Clergy as pundits

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The Mrs just asked who the Vicar was at Brentford being interviewed

Woonderbah · Post by **Woonderbah** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:02 pm

A season in the Premier League will do a club like Brentford a whole heap of good.
The reputed £170m can allow them to consolidate and look forward with financial security.
Our first season in the league enabled us to lay foundations to come back bigger and stronger as a club and now we're reaping the rewards.
Yes Brentford will struggle with such a short break to prepare but they won't complain.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:02 pm

He must be holy, he's hovering above the ground.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:04 pm

Only Leeds conceded less in their league this season.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:06 pm

They look a good side,they look much better than Villa & West Ham!

steve_f · Post by **steve_f** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:08 pm

Brentford is one of my local teams, would love to see them in the prem, they have a fresh new ground too for next season.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:08 pm

They might struggle, but many said the same about Sheff Utd, anyway they've not made it up yet, so it's premature to assess their prospects. It seems 90% certain that a London team will be promoted via the playoffs, so for the fans who travel you could be facing another trip to the capital.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:09 pm

steve_f wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:08 pm
Brentford is one of my local teams, would love to see them in the prem, they have a fresh new ground too for next season.

Whats the capacity of the new ground,what sort of crowds do Brentford get?

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:13 pm

17,000 capacity I remember reading and, having driven past it on the M4, that looked about right. As for their crowds they will definitely fill it in the PL .

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:18 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:09 pm
Whats the capacity of the new ground,what sort of crowds do Brentford get?

They get between 11-12 thousand roughly, the new stadium only has a capacity of slightly over 17 thousand, so if they make the big time their home attendances will be lower than ours. But in this day and age crowds don't generate a huge amount of a clubs revenue, hence why Bournemouth have been able to compete on crowds of 12k or so.

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:20 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:35 pm
If Brentford make it up they will really struggle.

They have a lot of technically gifted players but there finishing and defence is really quite poor.

Benrahma is very good but he has missed at least 3 clear cut chances.

Let’s hope they go up. I imagine it will be another Norwich

Brentford were the top scorers in the division and only Leeds conceded fewer goals.

I wonder how they have managed to get to the play off final at Wembley when both their defence and finishing are both quite poor??

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:21 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:18 pm
They get between 11-12 thousand roughly, the new stadium only has a capacity of slightly over 17 thousand, so if they make the big time their home attendances will be lower than ours. But in this day and age crowds don't generate a huge amount of a clubs revenue, hence why Bournemouth have been able to compete on crowds of 12k or so.

A full ground is always a good sight though,i like Brentford,the have an uncanny knack of finding footballing gems,

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:27 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:21 pm
A full ground is always a good sight though,...

I think it'll be a hell of a long time before there's a full ground anywhere....

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:00 pm

Targetman wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:20 pm
Brentford were the top scorers in the division and only Leeds conceded fewer goals.

I wonder how they have managed to get to the play off final at Wembley when both their defence and finishing are both quite poor??

You obviously haven’t been watching them tonight.

Should have scored 7-8 missed so so many good chances. They will only get 1-2 chances a game in the prem.

The defence they had out tonight would get ripped apart by most teams in the prem. weak and very few player tracking back to help. Basically the exact same as Norwich when they went up

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:11 am

I wish we could sign their scouts

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:23 am

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:08 pm
for the fans who travel you could be facing another trip to the capital.

I much prefer going to Brentford or Fulham to getting carved up in Cardiff.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:32 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:00 pm
You obviously haven’t been watching them tonight.

Should have scored 7-8 missed so so many good chances. They will only get 1-2 chances a game in the prem.

The defence they had out tonight would get ripped apart by most teams in the prem. weak and very few player tracking back to help. Basically the exact same as Norwich when they went up

Yeah you’re right, ignore the full season let’s just base their finishing/defending off 1 game they won 3-1, in that case we are sh*te at defending and scoring because we lost 5-0 against Man City.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:34 am

With a few flair additions I don’t think there’d do too bad, you only have to be a odd point or so better off than the teams in that mini league down there & scrape odd bonus points, I think there would make a fine fist of it if a couple of things swayed in there favour,

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:26 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:32 am
Yeah you’re right, ignore the full season let’s just base their finishing/defending off 1 game they won 3-1, in that case we are sh*te at defending and scoring because we lost 5-0 against Man City.

Scored 80 conceded 38

More than decent !!!!

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:09 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:26 am
Scored 80 conceded 38

More than decent !!!!

That's very good.

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:46 am

Saw them earlier in the season against Leicester. Looked to play attractive football but looked a bit toothless. Of course they may have improved dramatically but on that showing they'd need a few players with Premier League nous brought in. Looked a bit powder puff. Nice to watch though.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:59 am

I want Little Brentford up.
It's a short trip down the M4 and next to my new school
They also play entertaining football

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:43 am

Do they have a pub on each of the 4 corners of their new stadium?

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:45 am

I can't wait to see any of our strikers up against Pontus Jansen.

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:46 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:00 pm
You obviously haven’t been watching them tonight.

Should have scored 7-8 missed so so many good chances. They will only get 1-2 chances a game in the prem.

The defence they had out tonight would get ripped apart by most teams in the prem. weak and very few player tracking back to help. Basically the exact same as Norwich when they went up

Ive been watching them all season not just basing my views on 1 particular game.

So you are saying they should have scored 8 goals against Swansea?

Swansea are one of the form teams in the Championship yet they could only score 1 goal against such a poor Brentford defence? And that was a mistake from the Brentford defender!

Stop digging yourself into a hole.

steve_f · Post by **steve_f** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:08 am

They have already sold over 10,000 season tickets according to their website. Even with lockdown

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:06 am

They play pretty football and have had a great season, but remind me very much of Norwich.

There is not a lot of experience in that team and I fear they have quite a soft underbelly. I doubt they would have the finance to bring in the type of physically strong, powerful players they would need through their spine to survive. Sheffield United have surprised everyone with just how well they have done, but they had the likes of Egan, O'Connell, Stevens, Basham, McBurnie etc who are aerially fantastic and physically very fit. I look at that Brentford side and I see a very technically impressive side with some 'lovely' footballers, and then a lumbering Pontus Jansson who I do not personally believe will cut it in the Premier League. It also remains to be seen whether Benrahama, Watkins and Mbuemo have the goals in them at this level as it's a totally different kettle of fish scoring in this league, and many fail to step up. If they don't they really are stuffed.

I think they will struggle after an initial early bounce, should they win at Wembley. I wish them luck though as it's always great to see new teams break into this league.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:49 am

They have spent some serious money to get where they are.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-bren ... erein/1148

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:51 am

With just over a month to prepare I'd be surprised if whoever wins the play-offs doesn't struggle.
i hope Brentford come up.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:42 am

bartons baggage wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:49 am
They have spent some serious money to get where they are.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-bren ... erein/1148

???? Looking at that link, they appear to have spent less than they received in sales.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:48 am

Team that’s never been in the PL might struggle?! Give over.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:07 am

What if Brentford struggle just as much as people thought we were going to struggle?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:19 am

At what point in a season do we stop struggling?

On the train back from the 0-0 at Newcastle we got talking to a few geordies who were convinced they were going down. They ended up pretty safe but were struggling quite far into the season.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:55 pm

Pontus Jansen is a good centre back. He’d have a cracking battle against either Wood or Barnes. Don’t judge him on that shocking error. Temporary brain freeze. I’ll have to check his age. Didn’t he deliver the killer pass for the first goal?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:59 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:42 am
???? Looking at that link, they appear to have spent less than they received in sales.

I was pointing out that they have spent a lot of money.
They are not the little old Brentford people believe them to be.
Spent more money than us this year.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:27 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:55 pm
Pontus Jansen is a good centre back. He’d have a cracking battle against either Wood or Barnes. Don’t judge him on that shocking error. Temporary brain freeze. I’ll have to check his age. Didn’t he deliver the killer pass for the first goal?

No he didn't. The No 8 made the pass.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:43 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:43 am
Do they have a pub on each of the 4 corners of their new stadium?

They don’t at the old ground although they did at one time.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:52 pm

Griffin Park Pubs... on each corner...

The Griffin
The New Inn
The Princess Royal
The Brook (formally The Royal Oak) hasn't re-opened yet

Thomas Frank has promised to have a pint in each

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.u ... 565171/amp

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:26 am
Scored 80 conceded 38

More than decent !!!!

Yeah they look very good, not sure how much they will have to invest if they do gain promotion though. I’d love us to nab Watkins and Benrahma but given they rejected £20M for Benrahma last summer those two look financially out of reach.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:57 pm

The time to nab Ollie Watkins was when he was the standout player every week at Exeter City but snapped up by Brentford for a reported £1.8m.

Brentford definitely pick up some bargains and not all of them from overseas leagues.

Belgiumburnley · Post by **Belgiumburnley** » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:59 pm

steve_f wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:08 pm
Brentford is one of my local teams, would love to see them in the prem, they have a fresh new ground too for next season.

Me too.I'm based in Acton Town !