Number of seasons in Premier League club by club

[ClaretTony]

We are moving up a bit - numbers include next season.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn
16: Sunderland
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough
13: Bolton, Leeds & West Brom
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke
9: Coventry & Norwich
8: Charlton, Sheffield Wednesday, Wigan & Wimbledon
7: Birmingham, Burnley, Derby, Portsmouth, QPR, Swansea, Watford & Wolves
5: Bournemouth, Hull, Ipswich, Nottingham Forest & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading
2: Bradford City, Cardiff, Huddersfield and Oldham
1: Barnsley, Blackpool & Swindon

[ChrisG]

Incredible that Wigan had 8 on the bounce.

[criminalclaret]

Coventry City bloody hell. What a fall from grace.

I remember us playing them I think the first or second game of the new season in Div 1 after our "Ian Wright" promotion season in 99/00. Was expecting us to get pulverised by them and we ended up beating them 1-0 I think.

[ClaretTony]

Coventry City bloody hell. What a fall from grace.

I remember us playing them I think the first or second game of the new season in Div 1 after our "Ian Wright" promotion season in 99/00. Was expecting us to get pulverised by them and we ended up beating them 1-0 I think.

Coventry were still in the Premier League in the season after our promotion - they came down a year later and we did the double over them, winning 2-0 at Coventry and then 1-0 at home which was the final day of the season when a 2-0 win would have taken us into the play offs.

[ClaretTony]

Incredible that Wigan had 8 on the bounce.

They won't be going up to 9 either any time soon

[NottsClaret]

Still no PNE on there. Not many mid-sized clubs who've never even had one season in the sun. Bristol City, Millwall maybe.

[criminalclaret]

Coventry were still in the Premier League in the season after our promotion - they came down a year later and we did the double over them, winning 2-0 at Coventry and then 1-0 at home which was the final day of the season when a 2-0 win would have taken us into the play offs.

You're right. I had them confused with Wimbledon who had been relegated that previous season.

That's another name on the list, though they'd probably be filed under the "Wigan" category of coming from nowhere to the top and then sinking right back down again (under the MK Don's pseudonym).

[ClaretTony]

You're right. I had them confused with Wimbledon who had been relegated that previous season.

That's another name on the list, though they'd probably be filed under the "Wigan" category of coming from nowhere to the top and then sinking right back down again (under the MK Don's pseudonym).

First home back, Paul Weller scored. Different story for Wimbledon, had to go all the way down to the Combined Counties league to start their climb back to League One.

[Fretters]

I don't remember City spending so long outside the top flight, but I suppose they did drop down to the third tier. Incredible really when you look at them now.

[ClaretTony]

I don't remember City spending so long outside the top flight, but I suppose they did drop down to the third tier. Incredible really when you look at them now.

Hard to believe now but in 1998/99 season they played both Macclesfield and Stockport in league games.

[summitclaret]

Do we have the same stats for the top flight?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Do we have the same stats for the top flight?

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england ... op-flight/

Shows both number of top flight seasons for every club and consecutive for the current PL clubs.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That consecutive seasons list shows how there only a small number of actually established PL clubs and they're also currently the ones with a lot of money.

When fans raise their expectations they should have some realism about where the club can go as it is now.

[summitclaret]

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england ... op-flight/

Shows both number of top flight seasons for every club and consecutive for the current PL clubs.

Thanks God for that. So we are 21st on the all time list. Pretty impressive.

[dibraidio]

The league where they'll start next season in brackets.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn (Ch)
16: Sunderland (L1)
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough (Ch)
13: Bolton (L2), Leeds & West Brom (Ch)
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke (Ch)
9: Coventry (Ch) & Norwich (Ch)
8: Charlton (L1), Sheffield Wednesday (Ch), Wigan (L1) & Wimbledon (L2)
7: Birmingham (Ch), Burnley, Derby (Ch), Portsmouth (L1), QPR (Ch), Swansea (Ch), Watford (Ch) & Wolves
5: Bournemouth (Ch), Hull (L1), Ipswich (L1), Nottingham Forest (Ch) & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading (Ch)
2: Bradford City (L2), Cardiff (Ch), Huddersfield (Ch) and Oldham (L2)
1: Barnsley (Ch), Blackpool (L2) & Swindon (L2)

Just in case we start taking our current position for granted.

[Spijed]

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england ... op-flight/

Shows both number of top flight seasons for every club and consecutive for the current PL clubs.

The column on the right is only from the time football was invented (1992) as it shows us with 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight which isn't correct.

Wasn't our longest stint from 1946 till the late 60's?

[Conroysleftfoot]

Surprised by how high Fulham are.

[ClaretTony]

The column on the right is only from the time football was invented (1992) as it shows us with 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight which isn't correct.

Wasn't our longest stint from 1946 till the late 60's?

1947 to 1971

[LeadBelly]

The column on the right is only from the time football was invented (1992) as it shows us with 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight which isn't correct.

Wasn't our longest stint from 1946 till the late 60's?

Maybe that's consecutive to now (for those currently in top flight, how long has this run lasted- up to & including the coming season, hence Leeds 1)

[tiger76]

The league where they'll start next season in brackets.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn (Ch)
16: Sunderland (L1)
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough (Ch)
13: Bolton (L2), Leeds & West Brom (Ch)
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke (Ch)
9: Coventry (Ch) & Norwich (Ch)
8: Charlton (L1), Sheffield Wednesday (Ch), Wigan (L1) & Wimbledon (L2)
7: Birmingham (Ch), Burnley, Derby (Ch), Portsmouth (L1), QPR (Ch), Swansea (Ch), Watford (Ch) & Wolves
5: Bournemouth (Ch), Hull (L1), Ipswich (L1), Nottingham Forest (Ch) & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading (Ch)
2: Bradford City (L2), Cardiff (Ch), Huddersfield (Ch) and Oldham (L2)
1: Barnsley (Ch), Blackpool (L2) & Swindon (L2)

Just in case we start taking our current position for granted.

Good spot so 6 in L2, and 6 in L1, it illustrates how rapidly clubs can plummet down the leagues, and several of those names were considered established PL clubs, so yes it does show that we shouldn't take our current evaluated position as a given, and we'll have to continue to work hard to maintain our top flight status.

[Jimscho]

The league where they'll start next season in brackets.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn (Ch)
16: Sunderland (L1)
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough (Ch)
13: Bolton (L2), Leeds & West Brom (Ch)
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke (Ch)
9: Coventry (Ch) & Norwich (Ch)
8: Charlton (L1), Sheffield Wednesday (Ch), Wigan (L1) & Wimbledon (L2)
7: Birmingham (Ch), Burnley, Derby (Ch), Portsmouth (L1), QPR (Ch), Swansea (Ch), Watford (Ch) & Wolves
5: Bournemouth (Ch), Hull (L1), Ipswich (L1), Nottingham Forest (Ch) & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading (Ch)
2: Bradford City (L2), Cardiff (Ch), Huddersfield (Ch) and Oldham (L2)
1: Barnsley (Ch), Blackpool (L2) & Swindon (L2)

Just in case we start taking our current position for granted.

Think you have demoted West Brom back to Championship.That promotion did not last long.

[BenWickes]

Think you have demoted West Brom back to Championship.That promotion did not last long.

Blackpool and Swindon will be in League 1.

[Stan Tastic]

You could get sports bags with 'Burnley, 23 years in Division 1' until we were relegated in 1971. I think that was the wording but you get the general idea.

[LeadBelly]

You could get sports bags with 'Burnley, 23 years in Division 1' until we were relegated in 1971. I think that was the wording but you get the general idea.

I think we in the top two or three for "longest in top league" table at that time. Certainly behind Arsenal.

[dibraidio]

Jimscho:
Think you have demoted West Brom back to Championship.That promotion did not last long.

Blackpool and Swindon will be in League 1.

Oops, make that.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn (Ch)
16: Sunderland (L1)
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough (Ch)
13: Bolton (L2), Leeds & West Brom
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke (Ch)
9: Coventry (Ch) & Norwich (Ch)
8: Charlton (L1), Sheffield Wednesday (Ch), Wigan (L1) & Wimbledon (L2)
7: Birmingham (Ch), Burnley, Derby (Ch), Portsmouth (L1), QPR (Ch), Swansea (Ch), Watford (Ch) & Wolves
5: Bournemouth (Ch), Hull (L1), Ipswich (L1), Nottingham Forest (Ch) & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading (Ch)
2: Bradford City (L2), Cardiff (Ch), Huddersfield (Ch) and Oldham (L2)
1: Barnsley (Ch), Blackpool (L1) & Swindon (L1)

I counted 49 teams in that list, 29 of whom are in the second tier or lower.
Of the teams in the Championship this season only Brentford, Millwall, Bristol City, Luton and PNE aren't on that list.

[ClaretTony]

I think we in the top two or three for "longest in top league" table at that time. Certainly behind Arsenal.

In our final season in that run from 1947 to 1971, only Arsenal and Manchester United had been in the top flight longer.

[Clarets4me]

Jimscho:
Think you have demoted West Brom back to Championship.That promotion did not last long.

Oops, make that.

29: Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United & Tottenham
26: Aston Villa & Newcastle
25: West Ham
24: Manchester City
22: Southampton
18: Blackburn (Ch)
16: Sunderland (L1)
15: Fulham, Leicester & Middlesbrough (Ch)
13: Bolton (L2), Leeds & West Brom
12: Crystal Palace
10: Stoke (Ch)
9: Coventry (Ch) & Norwich (Ch)
8: Charlton (L1), Sheffield Wednesday (Ch), Wigan (L1) & Wimbledon (L2)
7: Birmingham (Ch), Burnley, Derby (Ch), Portsmouth (L1), QPR (Ch), Swansea (Ch), Watford (Ch) & Wolves
5: Bournemouth (Ch), Hull (L1), Ipswich (L1), Nottingham Forest (Ch) & Sheffield United
4: Brighton
3: Reading (Ch)
2: Bradford City (L2), Cardiff (Ch), Huddersfield (Ch) and Oldham (L2)
1: Barnsley (Ch), Blackpool (L1) & Swindon (L1)

I counted 49 teams in that list, 29 of whom are in the second tier or lower.
Of the teams in the Championship this season only Brentford, Millwall, Bristol City, Luton and PNE aren't on that list.

The irony of Luton is that they were one of the 20 Clubs who signed the " breakaway " document, leading to the formation of the Premier League, but have yet to play in it .... Notts County have a similar distinction !

[scouseclaret]

We are apparently 35th out of 49 clubs in the all-time Premier League points table, just ahead of Forest and Ipswich- “market leading” clubs when I were a lad! Another 50 point season would put us in the top 30...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.four ... every-club

[Devils_Advocate]

This is one list which we are destined to remain below Blackburn on forever and a day.

[dougcollins]

Birmingham City. Coventry City. Derby County. Nottingham Forest. Stoke City. West Bromwich Albion.

All top division stalwarts when I was a lad.

What's gone wrong in the midlands?

[bfcjg]

Frightening if you look at what can happen if you blow the money.

[conyoviejo]

This is one list which we are destined to remain below Blackburn on forever and a day.

We only need another 12 concurrent seasons in the Premier league to overtake them,but you probably won't be around to see it happen.

[dougcollins]

All that matters is now.

[Claretforever]

We only need another 12 concurrent seasons in the Premier league to overtake them,but you probably won't be around to see it happen.

Blackburn achieved 18 seasons over two spells. I think their second spell of 11 years was more impressive Than the first given that, once they’d been bankrolled to promotion, staying there without the ‘full’ backing of Jack Walker’s money was a fair old achievement. They weren’t skint, but but first period they were backed to the hilt by Walker.

If we can get to 10 we’ll have done extremely well from where we are now.

[Buxtonclaret]

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england ... op-flight/

Shows both number of top flight seasons for every club and consecutive for the current PL clubs.

Interesting little snippet.
Arsenal

Elected to top flight in 1919/20


They remain the only club since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89 who never earnt their place on merit.
About right for them.

[claret54]

Interesting little snippet.
Arsenal

Elected to top flight in 1919/20


They remain the only club since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89 who never earnt their place on merit.
About right for them.

So Arsenal have never been promoted to the top flight and never been relegated from the top flight.

[JohnMac]

That table is the sole reason I don't believe in the 'Established Premier League' guff people go on about.

We are visitors to an elite club, nothing more than that.

[ClaretTony]

Interesting little snippet.
Arsenal

Elected to top flight in 1919/20


They remain the only club since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89 who never earnt their place on merit.
About right for them.

The previous season because of the war was 1914/15 and when football restarted in 1919/20 the first division was increased from 20 to 22 clubs so it was one down (Tottenham) and three up (Derby, Preston and Arsenal). Derby and Preston were top and second but Arsenal finished 5th, behind both Barnsley and Wolves.

[randomclaret2]

This is one list which we are destined to remain below Blackburn on forever and a day.

Vintage Devils Advocate