FA Cup: No replays during 2020-21 season

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53765807

[box_of_frogs]

Won’t affect us past the 3rd round anyway!

[ClaretTony]

Won’t affect us past the 3rd round anyway!

We have gone beyond the 3rd round in four of the last five years

[FactualFrank]

I'm not convinced there's a need for FA Cup replays anyway. If you get a home draw, it should conclude at home.

[claptrappers_union]

I'm not convinced there's a need for FA Cup replays anyway. If you get a home draw, it should conclude at home.

My argument to that is that if a lower league team get a draw against a Premier League team, there's a replay. They're special nights. I don't think there need to be replays after the 4th round though.

[dibraidio]

My argument to that is that if a lower league team get a draw against a Premier League team, there's a replay. They're special nights. I don't think there need to be replays after the 4th round though.

Exactly, this is the magic of the cup for those small clubs who get a decent payday from a draw with a big club. Another decision in favour of the big clubs who just see these ties as inconvenient. Having said that if fans aren't allowed in it doesn't make much difference.

[aclaretinstevenage]

Probably makes sense given the problems caused by the virus, but my fear is it actually gives the F.A - prompted by the big clubs - an excuse to do away with replay's going forward, killing the chance of a "glamour tie" for the smaller clubs and further belittling the competition.

We'll see but I think this will become a permanent arrangement.

[Vintage Claret]

Would it be a good idea to change it so that the lower league team is automatically at home but have the option to play at the 'bigger' clubs ground instead?

(Obviously if both teams are in the same league the home team is as per the draw)

[BenWickes]

Would it be a good idea to change it so that the lower league team is automatically at home but have the option to play at the 'bigger' clubs ground instead?

(Obviously if both teams are in the same league the home team is as per the draw)

Was just thinking the same. Give the lower/non league team an option of home/away against PL teams.

[Longsidelenny1882]

The fa cup as totally gone the premiership teams have killed the competition very sad for football utc

[tiger76]

The fa cup as totally gone the premiership teams have killed the competition very sad for football utc

I take your point, but I'd say it's only the PL teams out with the big clubs who don't take it seriously, the last 7 winners include Arsenal 4 times, Chelsea, Man City & Man Utd, this hardly suggests that the big boys don't take the tournament seriously.

If there's not going to be replays next season, then we should definitely attempt to get past a couple of rounds, it only takes 4 wins to reach Wembley, assuming that's where the semi-final's will be held, and it only takes 6 wins to lift the trophy, why we can't give it a shot is beyond me, let's try and win some silverware for once.

[ClaretTony]

I take your point, but I'd say it's only the PL teams out with the big clubs who don't take it seriously, the last 7 winners include Arsenal 4 times, Chelsea, Man City & Man Utd, this hardly suggests that the big boys don't take the tournament seriously.

If there's not going to be replays next season, then we should definitely attempt to get past a couple of rounds, it only takes 4 wins to reach Wembley, assuming that's where the semi-final's will be held, and it only takes 6 wins to lift the trophy, why we can't give it a shot is beyond me, let's try and win some silverware for once.

I think we have given the FA Cup a shot to be honest. I saw a post today that suggested we get knocked out every year in the 3rd round but that's only happened once in the last five seasons and in that time we've gone out at Arsenal and twice at Man City. The Lincoln game was the big let down but we don't experiment, team wise, anything like as much as we do in the League Cup.

[claptrappers_union]

The FA Cup is only crap when you're in the Premier League - for Burnley a fourth-round tie against Norwich is rubbish, while a tie against Manchester City is rubbish also. That's why I miss being in Division 2, making it to the third round was exciting because that's when the 'big boys' came in.

And to be fair, the only fans who love the FA Cup are the ones who make it to final... funny that.

[Devils_Advocate]

Apart from Lincoln we've had some bad luck with the FA Cup draws but we've been absolutely atrocious in the League Cup under Dyche with only one win in the last 6 seasons - the one saving grace was the game we turned up for was against the Bast*rds

[tiger76]

I think we have given the FA Cup a shot to be honest. I saw a post today that suggested we get knocked out every year in the 3rd round but that's only happened once in the last five seasons and in that time we've gone out at Arsenal and twice at Man City. The Lincoln game was the big let down but we don't experiment, team wise, anything like as much as we do in the League Cup.

It's not just the team selection though, it seems to be the mentality, TBF we haven't made much impact in the cups (2009 accepted) for a long time, and last season we went out limply to Norwich at home, and yet we beat them easily in the 2 PL games, so it seems to be a motivational problem, which is bizarre because with a decent draw in the early rounds, we've got every chance of making a noise, and you'd imagine the players would relish a day out at Wembley.

I understand that PL survival is the be all and end all, but that shouldn't mean we sacrifice both domestic cups before we've kicked a ball. Admittedly it does help when you avoid drawing City away 2 seasons on the bounce, I'd just like us to get to say the 5th round and see what the draw throws up.

The problem a mid-ranking PL club like ourselves has, is that we along with several others don't have the squad depth the clubs with strong academies possess, that's why they can challenge in multiple tournaments domestically and in Europe, whereas the clubs with smaller squads have to try and juggle both league and cup fixtures, and rightly or wrongly most prioritise the league games over mounting a cup run.

[ClaretTony]

I don't think the manager helps to be honest. Ahead of every cup tie he'll tell us that he'll make changes but he'll put out a team good enough to win the game while also telling us every time that the Premier League is the priority.

[ksrclaret]

The difference in terms of how we approached the two Norwich City home games in the season just gone goes a long way to demonstrating where cup competitions are on the list of priorities.

[ClaretTony]

The difference in terms of how we approached the two Norwich City home games in the season just gone goes a long way to demonstrating where cup competitions are on the list of priorities.

I've just had a look, we played Man United just before the Norwich cup tie and we made five changes for the cup tie with Joe Hart, Kevin Long, Erik Pieters, Aaron Lennon and Robbie Brady coming in for Nick Pope, Ben Mee, Charlie Taylor, Jeff Hendrick and Dwight McNeil. So we still had a decent side out and should still have beaten Norwich. As you say, the approach at times isn't right.

[ksrclaret]

I've just had a look, we played Man United just before the Norwich cup tie and we made five changes for the cup tie with Joe Hart, Kevin Long, Erik Pieters, Aaron Lennon and Robbie Brady coming in for Nick Pope, Ben Mee, Charlie Taylor, Jeff Hendrick and Dwight McNeil. So we still had a decent side out and should still have beaten Norwich. As you say, the approach at times isn't right.

I think you generally expect a few changes in personnel for cup ties these days, but in the league game against Norwich we were right in their faces from the first minute, aggressively pressing them, hardly letting them out of their half and it worked so well that we raced into a 2 goal lead early on and it could have been more. We knew how to deal with them.

For some reason we didn't do any of that in the cup tie and they beat us easily by playing around us. I found that game very strange.

[claptrappers_union]

When I mentioned City and Norwich, I meant just two teams at each end of the table in the Premier League. If we drew Southampton away is like ‘eurgh’

[ClaretTony]

I think you generally expect a few changes in personnel for cup ties these days, but in the league game against Norwich we were right in their faces from the first minute, aggressively pressing them, hardly letting them out of their half and it worked so well that we raced into a 2 goal lead early on and it could have been more. We knew how to deal with them.

For some reason we didn't do any of that in the cup tie and they beat us easily by playing around us. I found that game very strange.

Totally agree. All down to the overall approach. I don’t know what’s said to the players at Gawthorpe but publicly in cup week Dyche will always talk about the Premier League being our number one priority. You wonder what that does to the players mentally.

[claptrappers_union]

Totally agree. All down to the overall approach. I don’t know what’s said to the players at Gawthorpe but publicly in cup week Dyche will always talk about the Premier League being our number one priority. You wonder what that does to the players mentally.

Maybe the players don’t receive an added incentive or a bonus for winning cup games.

I wish Dyche would say he wants a cup run. I know saying the league is priority keeps the focus on the job in hand, but at least lie about it or something.