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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:56 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:46 pm
Quite surprised the majority wanted City to lose. But it must be generations.

Back in the 90s, we wanted whoever was supporting the top league to win. So guess the ones wanting City to lose are the teens.
I don't want City to lose but find it amusing if they do .... perhaps if they hadn't cheated their way out of the ban ... and took their punishment I might think differently 🙂

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Marty Dobson » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:56 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:55 pm
Lyons' goalie looks shaky, don't think I've seen him catch a ball, likes to punch it out.
Caught a few when it mattered.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:57 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:55 pm
Please, please, please can we now stop being shown sh1te stats about possession and passes.
They mean nothing. Goals win games.
Couldn't agree more.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Leisure » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:53 pm
I wish City played like this against us.
And I wish that we played like Lyon against them! ;)
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 pm

Some recent results make me question how good the PL actually is.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 pm

That wasn’t the Man City I’ve seen so many times this season. Even so, thought they would win it once they’d equalised.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Leisure » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:01 pm

Just how important was that miss from Sterling!

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 pm
That wasn’t the Man City I’ve seen so many times this season. Even so, thought they would win it once they’d equalised.
The problem is with Man City is that they have no problem beating the cannon fodder in the Premier league but against the better sides they are not good enough.

Guardiola might be a brilliant coach when it comes to attacking but he hasn't got a clue about the defensive side of the games when up against better teams.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by exilecanada » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:03 pm

This has been a good day. Played a decent round of golf, watched Lyon beat Citeh. Going for nap then firing up the barbie for some chicken and spuds. Doesn't get much better than this :D
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Whatsupdoc » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:03 pm

Some teams are too arrogant for their own good
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:06 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:47 pm
WRONG!........Just don't like cheats.
WRONG!

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:08 pm

Taxi for Pep, he can't win the CL out with Barca it would seem, and that last 20 minutes was a comedy of schoolboy errors.

Well done to Lyon they were disciplined and took their chances when they came, but City laid the 2nd and 3rd goals on a plate.

An all French final is possible, as is an all German final.

This is a wake up call to all those who thought 4 English sides reaching both European finals last season meant the PL was the dominate force in world football, clearly this isn't the case and unless Man Utd can prevail in the EL it'll be a lean year for English clubs in Europe.

The PL might be the richest league in the world, but the jury's definitely out as too whether it's the best.

3 CL games against Lyon for City under Pep, and zero wins to date, I told you it wouldn't be a cakewalk.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:10 pm

I thought Pep was supposed to be the greatest manager on earth....got his team selection all wrong tonight,but well done Lyon for accepting City's gifts

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:11 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:08 pm
Taxi for Pep, he can't win the CL out with Barca it would seem, and that last 20 minutes was a comedy of schoolboy errors.

Well done to Lyon they were disciplined and took their chances when they came, but City laid the 2nd and 3rd goals on a plate.

An all French final is possible, as is an all German final.

This is a wake up call to all those who thought 4 English sides reaching both European finals last season meant the PL was the dominate force in world football, clearly this isn't the case and unless Man Utd can prevail in the EL it'll be a lean year for English clubs in Europe.

The PL might be the richest league in the world, but the jury's definitely out as too whether it's the best.

3 CL games against Lyon for City under Pep, and zero wins to date, I told you it wouldn't be a cakewalk.
Last season was an all English final.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:16 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:10 pm
I thought Pep was supposed to be the greatest manager on earth....got his team selection all wrong tonight,but well done Lyon for accepting City's gifts
That’s exactly what he did - strange team selection

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:21 pm

Just shows how bad some millionaires are when it comes to shopping
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:23 pm

Is it just me or does anyone else think Ederson is very very overrated?

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:29 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:23 pm
Is it just me or does anyone else think Ederson is very very overrated?
But he’s a great passer!
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:30 pm

If Raheem had concentrated on his finishing as much as the BLM campaign during the last few months then City would probably be in the UCL semi-final.

Oh well.
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:31 pm

That's the end of BT Sport crappy highlights until next season then, I guess. Always a plus.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:29 pm
But he’s a great passer!
Oh aye I forgot about that world beating skill he posseses :roll:

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:32 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:23 pm
Is it just me or does anyone else think Ederson is very very overrated?
I don’t think so, I rate him highly despite tonight. I prefer Alisson at Liverpool though.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:32 pm
I don’t think so, I rate him highly despite tonight. I prefer Alisson at Liverpool though.
He never looks interested to me.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:36 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:30 pm
If Raheem has concentrated on his finishing as much as the BLM campaign during the last few months then City would probably be in the UCL semi-final.

Oh well.
Ive seen him miss an easier chance than that right in front of me at the Cricketfield end oh how i laughed :lol:

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:43 pm

City have shown many times they can hammer teams, then get beat by a really poor performance. Liverpool have been winning games, when not playing well, all season, and as we know a good team wins even when not playing well.

The team selection was odd. KDB playing on the wing instead of pulling strings in the middle. Jesus just isn't a presence as a target man, they miss Aguero massively. The least said about the back line the better. Rodrigo and Cancello were awful.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:37 pm

Also interesting to note that Phil Foden didn't play. If Guardiola rates him then why didn't he get any game time?

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:49 pm

Pep Guardiola is a poor man's Sean Dyche IMHO. 👍
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:25 am

the prize was always europe at city, he can't deliver it, nowhere near to it.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:36 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:23 pm
Is it just me or does anyone else think Ederson is very very overrated?
He's a good keeper, but he's nowt special.
Rather have our Nick....

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by tim_noone » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:40 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:32 pm
I don’t think so, I rate him highly despite tonight. I prefer Alisson at Liverpool though.
Got to be Nick Pope at Burnley for me.....

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:01 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:06 pm
WRONG!
Yep WRONG!

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:23 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:52 pm
I was always the same. Always rooted for the English side be it Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal. I think the difference now is more that we have a personal dislike for so many of these teams having played against them for a good number of years. Going back 15 years we were so far removed from these clubs that it was hard to have a strong dislike.
Rileybobs, I think the difference was that English teams in those days were full of British players. Now they don't feel like English teams. I'm glad City lost.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:25 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:11 pm
Last season was an all English final.
With how many English players playing?

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by mkmel » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:59 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:23 am
Rileybobs, I think the difference was that English teams in those days were full of British players. Now they don't feel like English teams. I'm glad City lost.
I too am glad Man City lost
I despise that club
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Kreuzberg » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:33 am

Couldn’t have happened to a bigger cheat. Bye City. These one legged, knockout matches are creating a lot of chaos, and it’s fun to watch. Sterling missing that point blank chance will haunt him forever. Absolute madness that.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:40 am

Kreuzberg wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:33 am
Couldn’t have happened to a bigger cheat. Bye City. These one legged, knockout matches are creating a lot of chaos, and it’s fun to watch. Sterling missing that point blank chance will haunt him forever. Absolute madness that.
The whole tournament should be knockout, just like the old days. Ditto the Inter Cities Fairs Cup, er EUFA Cup, er Europa League.
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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:03 am

been a miles better format, time to ditch 2 legged cup games

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:06 am

Every time Lyon went forward (and it wasn't too often) they looked dangerous. Why make a tactical change to play with a back 3 in such an important game. For me it didn't make sense. Let the opposition worry about your format instead of the other way around. I'd have preferred them starting with a back 4 and having Fernandinho in a defensive central midfield position. Think Pep and City are becoming too obsessed with the CL and it's clouding his judgement.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:26 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 pm
Some recent results make me question how good the PL actually is.
Farmers league..

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:45 am

The spine of any team tells you the quality. City haven’t replaced Kompany and have no cover for Aguero or Jesus in the system they use. With Aguero being out they were reliant on Jesus having a great game. As usual he didn’t. So they were light weight in half of the spine.
A totally unbalanced team 4 real class MFs with another 4 available to replace them but soft in key areas. Good.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:32 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:03 am
been a miles better format, time to ditch 2 legged cup games
I’d say the 2-leg format made for some pretty good entertainment last season wouldn’t you?

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:54 am

I've just seen Sterling's miss.

Ha ha ha.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Dyched » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:56 am

Few posters getting a bit over dramatic after a one off game. Suggesting the PL is poor. Really? A team that finished 7th in France beat 2nd in the PL in a one off game suddenly means the PL is poor?

People have weird opinions on football when Burnley aren’t involved.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:27 am

Dyched wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:56 am
Few posters getting a bit over dramatic after a one off game. Suggesting the PL is poor. Really? A team that finished 7th in France beat 2nd in the PL in a one off game suddenly means the PL is poor?

People have weird opinions on football when Burnley aren’t involved.
True.
OL looked decent, especially on the break, but the only reason they won was because of the many mistakes City made. City have shown the same frailty many times in the league this season. If tonight's match was replayed 9 times, City would win at least 8 of them.
I'm glad they went out, just because they deserved to. With the form Bayern are showing I should think they could have score for fun against that Ciry defence.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:49 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:23 am
Rileybobs, I think the difference was that English teams in those days were full of British players. Now they don't feel like English teams. I'm glad City lost.
And bankrolled by dodgy Arab money in City's case. I didn't mind Spurs when Poch was there, but couldn't care less about how the rest of our teams do in Europe tbh.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:53 am

Dyched wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:56 am
Few posters getting a bit over dramatic after a one off game. Suggesting the PL is poor. Really? A team that finished 7th in France beat 2nd in the PL in a one off game suddenly means the PL is poor?

People have weird opinions on football when Burnley aren’t involved.
I think you might be believing the hype. The best games are in the PL, the best players aren’t.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:54 am

I don’t know why people constantly feel the need to play down the quality of the PL. Along with the German and Spanish leagues the English league dominates the European competitions most seasons. A very average Spurs side made the final last season and 3 of the last 4 finalist have been from the Premier League.

Man City are possibly the best side in Europe on their day, but they have a very soft underbelly which is exposed far too often. It’s not really a surprise that they were knocked out in a one-off game - amusing though it certainly is.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:57 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:23 am
Rileybobs, I think the difference was that English teams in those days were full of British players. Now they don't feel like English teams. I'm glad City lost.
I’m not sure that’s the case for me to be honest. I remember cheering on Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool in Champions League finals in the not too distant past and those teams had plenty of non-British players. My dislike of these clubs has come about since we’ve been competing with them every season.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:37 am

Pep --12 seasons managing clubs who have won their respective leagues in 8 of those seasons and, in the other seasons, had also qualified for ECL.
He last won it in 2010/11 when the Barcelona team included Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, David Villa and Dani Alves amongst one or two other decent players.
No doubting that Pep is a good manager, however, I wonder if he 'tinkers' too much.

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Re: City v Lyon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:12 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:32 am
I’d say the 2-leg format made for some pretty good entertainment last season wouldn’t you?
remind me ?

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