Hart signing for Spurs

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:05 am

Wasn’t that desperate for first team football after all.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:17 am

He’s a footballer, you know he’s talking hillocks... his lips will be moving.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:17 am

Mmmm... seems like predictive text has saved me from a ban.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:19 am

Article already written

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:27 am

It's almost like Mourinho knows better than a load of Burnley fans crying that he wasn't Tom Heaton and that he had been on TV adverts.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:29 am

I thought he wanted to play games???

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:30 am

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:27 am
It's almost like Mourinho knows better than a load of Burnley fans crying that he wasn't Tom Heaton and that he had been on TV adverts.

And Sean Dyche too, who dropped him and never really played him again.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:39 am

Shuda kept him

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:42 am

Good luck to him.
He did nothing wrong here.

Not many, if any, clubs can say they'd 3 England keepers in their squads at the same time.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:46 am

Leave him alone, he's only earning a crust whilst he can.

Did nowt wrong as far as I'm concerned.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:46 am

The Times:

Tottenham Hotspur set to complete shock move for Joe Hart

Tottenham Hotspur are expected to complete a shock move for Joe Hart as they look to recruit a homegrown reserve goalkeeper.

Hart, 33, has 75 England caps and is available on a free transfer after leaving Burnley. The former Manchester City goalkeeper is set to sign a two-year contract with the option of a third and is expected to undergo a medical today.

Hart was earning £50,000 a week at Turf Moor, which is more than Tottenham were willing to pay him. It is thought Spurs have offered around £35,000 per week. Chelsea had also considered a move for Hart.

Tottenham have too many players who do not count as homegrown, which restricts the size of the squad they can name.

Under Premier League rules, a club can name no more than 17 overseas players in their 25-man squad. Hugo Lloris, of France, and Paulo Gazzaniga, of Argentina, are Tottenham’s present goalkeepers after the Dutchman Michel Vorm left the club this summer.

José Mourinho selected four homegrown players in his league squad in February, meaning he could name only a total of 21. The departures of Vorm and Jan Vertonghen, the Belgium defender, will also help Tottenham balance the numbers.

Hart joined Burnley two years ago and played 19 league matches in his first season when he shared duties with Tom Heaton. However Nick Pope became Burnley’s first choice last season and Hart was restricted to three appearances in cup competitions.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:48 am

Best of luck to him. Shrewd signing on a free for Mourinho as back up to Lloris.

Hopefully Spurs fans are more forgiving of their players who appear in adverts. They’re probably more accustomed to it than Burnley fans are.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:54 am

Joe harts biggest problem here was only that he wasn’t Tom Heaton.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:57 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:05 am
Wasn’t that desperate for first team football after all.

Maybe he believes in himself and he can? Evidently he wont be first choice. If Lloris gets injured, bans or loses form he will be number one at a huge club.

Strange mentality a lot on here. They love to see others fail.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:57 am

Joe Harts biggest problem was he wasn’t good enough.

Yes he’s signed for Spurs, but Grant signed for UTD and he was crap as well

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:59 am

Oh and he will get regular first team football in cups. They will probably go a long way in the europa for a start.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:00 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:54 am
Joe harts biggest problem here was only that he wasn’t Tom Heaton.

I’d say his biggest problem is the amount of goals he’s conceded in the games he’s played in the last 4 years.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:04 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:57 am
Maybe he believes in himself and he can? Evidently he wont be first choice. If Lloris gets injured, bans or loses form he will be number one at a huge club.

Strange mentality a lot on here. They love to see others fail.

I’ve nothing against him and hope he does well. He was an excellent keeper at his peak, but it didn’t work out here.

I was merely commenting based on the fact that he did numerous interviews pointing out his desire to establish himself as a number one again somewhere and prove he wasn’t past it. On that basis a move to a top six club where they have a firmly established world class goalkeeper seems at odds with his interviews. He’s reportedly turned down offers from other clubs where he might have gone in as first choice.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:06 am

We were paying our reserve keeper 50k a week

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:20 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:59 am
Oh and he will get regular first team football in cups. They will probably go a long way in the europa for a start.

He won't, he'll be third choice.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:22 am

does it mean we've paid him 1/2 million since he's been here?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:24 am

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:22 am
does it mean we've paid him 1/2 million since he's been here?

If the reported wages are correct (which they won't be), we'd have paid him that in ten weeks.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:25 am

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:22 am
does it mean we've paid him 1/2 million since he's been here?

£5M in wages over 2 years.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:36 am

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:25 am
£5M in wages over 2 years.

thanks, just realised my error.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:43 am

Is that any worse than the money spent on Gibson?

Whilst Hart may not be the standard he was when at his peak, he’s still a good keeper and despite what you hear on here peddled by those with an agenda, still did a decent job for us.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:47 am

20 games and 1/2 a million in wages, not great for business.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:51 am

To be fair I'd also be upset at not playing games for Burnley if I was on only 50k a week.

Make that weekly wage 80k, a few million signing on fee, being a Spurs player, and the bright lights if London and I'm sure he will cope just fine.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:55 am

A player who has gone backwards. As above the last 4/5 years of his career show that.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:57 am

MACCA wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:51 am
To be fair I'd also be upset at not playing games for Burnley if I was on only 50k a week.

Make that weekly wage 80k, a few million signing on fee, being a Spurs player, and the bright lights if London and I'm sure he will cope just fine.

The reports say he's taking a cut to 35k a week.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:59 am

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:47 am
20 games and 1/2 a million in wages, not great for business.

Err 19 games
£5m in wages
£4m transfer fee

That’s nearly half a million a game !

Given all the goals he conceded cost per goal conceded might be a better statistic - the kind of useless made up one the current government would come up with !

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:06 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:55 am
A player who has gone backwards. As above the last 4/5 years of his career show that.

True, he needs to be number 1 somewhere instead of moving to clubs as a backup, but he's already probably achieved what he's happy with so why not pick the money up & see the final days out doing the minimal.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:08 am

He'll get far more action as their number 2 than ours, with the Europa league. Plus Lloris hasn't been great the last few seasons, maybe he backs himself to compete for the number 1 shirt?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:09 am

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:57 am
The reports say he's taking a cut to 35k a week.

At them basic wages I'd expect a hell if a signing on fee and/or large playing bonuses.

2nd/3rd choice goal keeper is a great gig if you can get it

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:38 am

In his head Joe is still a top keeper
With the egotists at Spurs he will fit right in
He was poor for us and nothing to do with the fact he wasnt Tom Heaton
The real fact was hes on the slide, it happens to all footballers.It just takes some longer than others to realise it
But good luck to Joe,if he can get a bench warmers wage out of Spurs.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:48 am

MACCA wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:09 am
At them basic wages I'd expect a hell if a signing on fee and/or large playing bonuses.

2nd/3rd choice goal keeper is a great gig if you can get it

Signing on fee: £zero. Can you really see Levy approving a signing on fee for the squad's 3rd keeper?

And, I think that would be the case if there's been no covid-19 "shut out" of fans and no big, new, shiny stadium to pay for.

Yes, I hope Joe Hart is backing himself to get a shot at becoming 1st choice.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:53 am

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:39 am
Shuda kept him

I don’t think so. On what he was being paid?

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:53 am

Tall Paul is right, he will be third choice behind Gazzaniga i reckon.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:54 am

Inchy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:57 am
Joe Harts biggest problem was he wasn’t good enough.

Yes he’s signed for Spurs, but Grant signed for UTD and he was crap as well

I guess you rated Jensen?

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:58 am

Good luck to him,wish him well.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:01 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:20 am
He won't, he'll be third choice.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, gazzaniga has a few ricks in him, I don't think any incoming keeper purposely sets out to be number 2 or whatever number it doesn't work that way, you go in & then you are assessed in training to maintain the competitive edge, If Hart performs better in training than gazzaniga despite what was the position previously it's replaced.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:03 pm

Fair play to Joe Harts agent.

None of these bogus links with AC Milan and Roma etc.. Just quietly away gets the client a very good move to a top club.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:07 pm

He’s not gone there as 3rd choice keeper.
Lloris has had losses of form and a couple of injuries.
Hart will be expecting to play for them either in Europe or any other circumstance. So will Gazzaniga.
It will be about who Mourinho decides he wants to play - and nobody knows that - probably not even him until the situation occurs !

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:40 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:47 am
20 games and 1/2 a million in wages, not great for business.

Imagine we didnt have him for them 20 games and we played Legdzins in goal when Heaton, Pope and Lindergard were injured!

slightly more than 5m i imagine.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:42 pm

If we didnt have such brilliant popular keepers in Heaton and Pope I think Hart would have become a hero, it was just circumstances.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:44 pm

Gazzaniga is supposedly good - never seen him play - so not sure he'll be automatic second choice.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:47 pm

Hel likely play cup games
World class facilities

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:48 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:54 am
Joe harts biggest problem here was only that he wasn’t Tom Heaton.

Or as good as Nick Pope

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:56 pm

Top Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:54 am
I guess you rated Jensen?

Jensen was often the best of a very bad bunch, but he was still bad. We have been very fortunate over the past few years to have had Heaton and Pope. Before that we lacked a decent keeper since Marlons first spell.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:18 pm

i liken jensen, it was the sieve of a defence that was at fault.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:22 pm

Jensen averaged out at ...well, average..As an all round keeper he had some major weaknesses: I still shudder at the memory of the 6-1 defeat at Ipswich when Joe Royle obviously told his players to shoot low, the 3-0 defeat at Cardiff and the comedy moment at home to Wigan, but he made a big contribution in the 2008/9 season.