Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

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Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by pushpinpussy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:40 pm

Ive watched a few national games and some of the Women footballers are pretty good. Many women are strong enough. I know plenty of Women who are stronger than many men. It wouldn't bother me if our new Centre Midfielder was a women.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by Long Time Lurker » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:41 pm

Yes

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 pm

You would have to build a separate changing room and a separate shower area just for starter's

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Post by Awayfromburnley » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 pm

Yes absolutely.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 pm

No

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 pm

Would women want to? I expect the tier England internationals would find their level at in the men's game would earn them considerably less than playing on the WSL

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:58 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 pm
You would have to build a separate changing room and a separate shower area just for starter's
They should already have those ;)

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:00 pm

The best women players would struggle to beat any EFL team. I accept some women are stronger than some men, but the rigours of a 90 minute football match against men would be well beyond them

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:01 pm

Absolutely but I don’t believe there will ever be one to make it at the highest level.

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Post by RMutt » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:12 pm

I presume it would then come with a call for men to participate in the women’s game and I suspect that would potentially end women’s football.
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Post by BenWickes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:18 pm

No. They'll never be physically strong enough. My wife used to play at a high level on the continent for a women's team. She trained with the men's team. She says that women just don't have the physical attributes or stamina.
She got the sh*t kicked out of her by the men and although it toughened her up. That was just training. They were going easy on her.
Let's not forget, by the way. The Women's World Champions, USA; got hammered by a Dallas Academy 15 year old boys team in 2017.
They're light years off being in a men's team.

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Post by conyoviejo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:22 pm

Should women be allowed to play cricket with men
Should women be allowed to play rugby with men
Should women be allowed to play golf with men .
Should women be allowed to compete with men at Swimming and athletics .

Etc etc etc etc ..when will it ever end..

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:22 pm

Well we played Bamford didn't we ?

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Post by Clarets4me » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:34 pm

No ....

The only sports which do this are equestrian events, ie: Show Jumping, Dressage, Horse Racing etc. However, why Snooker, Pool, Darts, Bowls, Curling and Motor Sports aren't " Open " is beyond me ...

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Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:45 pm

I thought darts was ‘open’?

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by TommyJohnson » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:47 pm

The day that happens I'll never watch again.

NO NAY NEVER

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by gtclaret » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:57 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:18 pm
No. They'll never be physically strong enough. My wife used to play at a high level on the continent for a women's team. She trained with the men's team. She says that women just don't have the physical attributes or stamina.
She got the sh*t kicked out of her by the men and although it toughened her up. That was just training. They were going easy on her.
Let's not forget, by the way. The Women's World Champions, USA; got hammered by a Dallas Academy 15 year old boys team in 2017.
They're light years off being in a men's team.
Absolutely correct, the best women's team would get battered against even the part time mens teams, it would be dangerous to even try

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:01 pm

Unfortunately they would never beat some Sunday league teams so they won’t be signing for us any time soon.

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Post by NottsClaret » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:02 pm

Allowed to? Pretty sure they wouldn’t even want to.

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Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 pm

May have been a truer comparison, had she faced Ilie Nastase!!
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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm

Once you allow it you’ll start getting the argument of women not being selected and sexism, imagine the outrage if a 6ft 5 - 17 stone centre half snapped a 5ft 5 women’s legs in a tackle or knocked her unconscious.

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Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm

I don’t understand why women can’t play cricket with men... then again I don’t know why men play cricket...

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Post by aclaretinstevenage » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm

In a word NO!

I'd wager the Women's world Champions would not be in the top half of The National league. Please don't suggest this to the FA, they are sappy and PC enough to consider it, at that point I'm done.

Nothing wrong with women competing with or against men in say Golf or Darts and others as posted earlier but not football. What next mixed Rugby, Men v women Wretling of Boxing?

It's called women's football for a reason, loosely based on our game just not the same.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:16 pm

It’s another of those that no women will be calling for, just the press and the type that love to protest.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:20 pm

Woman keeping wicket for Accrington this weekend in Lancashire League

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Post by Foulthrow » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:20 pm
Woman keeping wicket for Accrington this weekend in Lancashire League
That’s Matt Wilson, their dreadlocks and he’s been playing for years. ;)

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Post by BenWickes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:26 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm
Once you allow it you’ll start getting the argument of women not being selected and sexism, imagine the outrage if a 6ft 5 - 17 stone centre half snapped a 5ft 5 women’s legs in a tackle or knocked her unconscious.
This would happen 100%. It's an insurance companies dream! My wife said her male counterparts took no prisoners. She came out battered and bruised and lucky not to have bones broken. It's a case of. 'Ok, you want to play men, let's play like men'. I'd give it the opening game of the first ever woman to play before she had something snapped for good. It just ain't going to happen.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:26 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm
In a word NO!

I'd wager the Women's world Champions would not be in the top half of The National league. Please don't suggest this to the FA, they are sappy and PC enough to consider it, at that point I'm done.

Nothing wrong with women competing with or against men in say Golf or Darts and others as posted earlier but not football. What next mixed Rugby, Men v women Wretling of Boxing?

It's called women's football for a reason, loosely based on our game just not the same.
If there was a female player good enough, I can’t see any reason why she can’t be considered. The game is becoming less and less physical anyway, but to compete by today’s standards she’s have to be pretty special. I’ve not watched much women’s football but I haven’t seen anyone with the attributes necessary to play in a mens team, certainly at the highest level anyway.
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Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:30 pm

I know it’s probably a stupid question but Is there actually a rule saying they can’t now?

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Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:32 pm

Yes
If swapping shirts at full time is the norm...



Sorry...
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:34 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:25 pm
That’s Matt Wilson, their dreadlocks and he’s been playing for years. ;)
Wilson unavailable and replaced by second team keeper Alice Clarke.
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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by BenWickes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:37 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:30 pm
I know it’s probably a stupid question but Is there actually a rule saying they can’t now?
Yes is the simple answer.

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Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:37 pm
Yes is the simple answer.
What’s the rule say?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:42 pm

Men aren't ready for female managers and some still have issues with female officials in the men's game.

We are a long way off before they're ready to accept mixed football teams regardless of how good the women are.

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Post by BenWickes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:47 pm

Not looking it up now, off to work. There was a Dutch case the other week on the BBC where a woman wanted to keep playing with men. She was allowed to but only at a very low level of football.
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Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 pm

Cheers I’ll look it up 👍

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Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 pm

Missus played with me today
She did alright

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Post by Stayingup » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:09 pm

Rather silly topic. It'll never happen.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:09 pm

Nothing to do with how different physically men are. Which in itself is reason enough for them not to play.

The reality is they will never be talented, quick or strong enough. End of.

That’s not sexist. It’s reality.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:13 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:22 pm
Should women be allowed to play cricket with men
Should women be allowed to play rugby with men
Should women be allowed to play golf with men .
Should women be allowed to compete with men at Swimming and athletics .

Etc etc etc etc ..when will it ever end..
They now have mixed 400 metre relays in the athletics but even the fastest women are left trailing due to the speed of the men.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:22 pm

Would Ex Male - Tran's
be welcome playing in the Women's Super League?

Would this be welcomed? Be Fair?

Just asking the question for balance.



... and erm, weighing up options for an erm, friend.
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Post by yorkyclaret » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:34 pm
No ....

The only sports which do this are equestrian events, ie: Show Jumping, Dressage, Horse Racing etc. However, why Snooker, Pool, Darts, Bowls, Curling and Motor Sports aren't " Open " is beyond me ...
5 women have entered formula 1 events though only 2 have started a race. Many rally drivers, Pat Moss probably the most famous, though Anne Hall once took a friend of mine round a track when in her late 70s scared the crap out of him.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by TommyJohnson » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:58 pm

The best women's team in world football would get beat by a decent Sunday league team. It's that simple.

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:19 am

I’ve played where there were women on the other team (in the US you can’t discriminate against it) and they were well worth their place. Not as physical but certainly more technical which made our Sunday Pubbers look a bit stupid.

So all of those “best women’s team in the world wouldn’t beat the Morris Dancers” comments I can assure you are steeped in misogyny
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Post by pushpinpussy » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:54 pm

TommyJohnson wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:58 pm
The best women's team in world football would get beat by a decent Sunday league team. It's that simple.

There is only one thing that is simple.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:16 pm

A prem league women’s team could not even get near to a conference team they’d be eaten alive . Sure there’s some good women’s players but as a “direct comparison only” to compare their game is almost laughable . I’d say any decent men’s u16 academy side would beat the best England USA national sides .

That said I’m all for birds playing the game at school upwards and if it brings more women in to the game as refs/physios /coaches etc it’s a good thing imo

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by Quicknick » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:37 pm

In a word, no.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by BennyD » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:31 pm

Of course they should, but only if washing, ironing and hoovering become Olympic sports.

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Re: Should women be allowed to play on teams with men?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:33 pm

With their being a huge push for equality on all levels I am coming round to the idea of other teams in this division having a female goalkeeper

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