ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:06 am

ALP wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:17 pm
Absolutely all the best to him, a complete balls up on our part to lose him, but no point in going down that rocky road again!!!
When you say a complete balls up, if a player signs a 4 year deal and plays for 4 years but decides he wants to move on which method do you use to force him to sign anew deal ?

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by HB Claret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:14 am

Wish him well now that he has joined, in his words “a massive club” - although they have been massively underachieving. Hope he does well for them (except when playing against Burnley) as when/if the crowds return could be pivotal in his Newcastle career.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:34 am

Good luck to him.

I did my nut at him being played ahead of Vydra as a Number 10 when we played 4411, but he did a great job at rm allowing McNeil license to roam from LM

Cheers Jeff

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Hendrickxz » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:02 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:13 pm
I would have preferred to retain Hedrick's services mainly for his versatility, but a 4 year contract on fairly hefty wages for a 28 year-old is a big outlay.

From Newcastle's POV, they've secured a steady experienced PL player on a free transfer, so they'll no doubt consider that as good business, which it is for them, whether Jeff will be an automatic name on their team sheet we'll have to wait and see, but given the fact Steve Bruce has been courting him since his time at Hull suggests he rates him highly, and he'll be a good fit into Newcastle's system.

Good luck Jeff you never give less than 100% when called upon, even when it wasn't in your preferred position, you always put in a shift for the team and the gaffer, and that's all fans can ask for.

P.S hope you have a couple of stinkers against the Clarets this season.
Good apostrophe, well placed! :P

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:17 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:06 am
When you say a complete balls up, if a player signs a 4 year deal and plays for 4 years but decides he wants to move on which method do you use to force him to sign anew deal ?
Choke hold obviously.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:25 am

Dyched wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 pm
He’s a good player for a team like us and Newcastle. Let’s face it, if it was the other way round and Shelvey came here to play alongside Hendrick, we’d be pretty happy.
Not sure why we'd be happy with Shelvey, he showboats far to much, has only scored 8 PL goals at Newcastle and there is/was a media fixation with him for some odd reason.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:47 am

Good luck to Jeff. Always rated him.

Not sure you can blame the club. We never would have given him a 4 year deal.

Not sure you can blame Jeff. He will probably have had a salary increase, lots of security with a 4 year deal and one would think a (very) hefty signing on fee.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ALP » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:40 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:06 am
When you say a complete balls up, if a player signs a 4 year deal and plays for 4 years but decides he wants to move on which method do you use to force him to sign anew deal ?
It was a balls up and he should have been offered an extension a lot earlier than the nothing that went forward to him, now that is a balls up.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:41 pm

ALP wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:40 pm
It was a balls up and he should have been offered an extension a lot earlier than the nothing that went forward to him, now that is a balls up.
He was offered a deal. How do you make him sign a deal if he decides he doesn't want to ?

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:37 pm
Think that applies to any player when he signs for a new club but Newcastle have got themselves a damn good player.

In terms of managers leaving after signing new players. Back in 1974 Liverpool signed Ray Kennedy from Arsenal. It was the last thing Bill Shankly did. Less than an hour later his retirement had been announced.
They have got an average player

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:52 pm

ClaretAndBlue94 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:47 am
Good luck to Jeff. Always rated him.

Not sure you can blame the club. We never would have given him a 4 year deal.

Not sure you can blame Jeff. He will probably have had a salary increase, lots of security with a 4 year deal and one would think a (very) hefty signing on fee.
Would live to know what the reaction in here would have been if we’d have signed him on a big 4 year contract...

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:50 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:52 pm
Would live to know what the reaction in here would have been if we’d have signed him on a big 4 year contract...
Equally negative. Lose/lose for the club.

Match the 4 year contract length at Newcastle - Fans complain.
Don't match it and let Jeff move on - Fans complain.

:lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:30 pm

ClaretAndBlue94 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:50 pm
Equally negative. Lose/lose for the club.

Match the 4 year contract length at Newcastle - Fans complain.
Don't match it and let Jeff move on - Fans complain.

:lol:
Yep :lol: :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:04 pm

ClaretAndBlue94 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:50 pm
Equally negative. Lose/lose for the club.

Match the 4 year contract length at Newcastle - Fans complain.
Don't match it and let Jeff move on - Fans complain.

:lol:
No complaint from me

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by TVC15 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:21 pm

Lots of conjecture on this thread - I know it’s a football forum and that’s par for the course but it’s the way it’s spoken as fact.
We don’t know when the club offered him a new contract or how much and we don’t know whether he has signed a “big” contract for Newcastle - we just know it’s a long one and it’s unlikely we would have offered him a 4 year one.

We’ve lost a good player but he wanted to leave and that’s what happens - hopefully we get the benefit the other way with incomings

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by DCWat » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:41 pm

If the claims on here about the fans criticisms having a bearing on his decision, he’s jumped from the frying pan into the volcano.
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:54 pm
So you consider it to be no great loss to lose the player who has played more games for us than anyone but the two centre halves in what have been our best four years in a long, long time.


It’s fine we will move on.


We lost Keane. No great loss we got Tarks in.

Hendrick is a decent player but he isn’t Messi. We will replace him. We haven’t struggled whilst he’s been on gardening leave

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:02 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:58 pm
Wow. Some folk just haven't got a clue.

:roll:


What am I missing?

How are we missing him?

I trust Dyche to replace him

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:05 pm

As an attacking midfielder/supporting forward I didn’t rate Hendrick. I’m not alone in that

He’s a decent centre mid player but he isn’t as good as Cork or Westwood

He did a job on the wing but personally I think we should be aiming for better quality out wide.

I don’t think he would have been a starter every week if he had stayed

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:29 pm

Good luck Jeff,you have joined a fantastic club with fantastic support,i hope they appreciate you more than a lot of our support did.
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:37 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:29 pm
Good luck Jeff,you have joined a fantastic club with fantastic support,i hope they appreciate you more than a lot of our support did.


If he puts in a few anonymous performances Im certain that they will turn on him.


I will predict that he will do absolutely nothing up there and after 6 months he won’t be a regular starter.

I will bump this thread in 6 months when I’m proven correct
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:59 pm

Inchy wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:37 am
If he puts in a few anonymous performances Im certain that they will turn on him.


I will predict that he will do absolutely nothing up there and after 6 months he won’t be a regular starter.

I will bump this thread in 6 months when I’m proven correct
Dont forget buddy....I look forward to your bump and you eating your words

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Average player going to an average team. Move on folks, nothing o see.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:20 pm

I think we will miss him. It was shame he became the boo boys target, there unfortunately always has to be one. Maybe he will be more appreciated at Newcastle.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by claretblue » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:59 pm
Dont forget buddy....I look forward to your bump and you eating your words
he said he would bump this thread '...in 6 months when I’m proven correct...'

not if he wasn't proven correct! :?

:D

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:35 pm

Steve Bruce asked Mick McCarthy about him and this is what McCarthy told Bruce.



“Steve rang me to ask about him and whether he’d be a good signing – and I told him exactly what I’m telling you. I just said: “Yes. In a heartbeat.”

“They were my first words. I think it’s a great signing. You don’t get too many as good as Jeff on a free transfer, that’s for sure. It’s an unbelievable bargain for Newcastle and I think he’ll be great for Steve.

“He’s been doing it for Burnley for four years in the Premier League. For me he was brilliant. I think he’s a very good player, he’s athletic, he’s got a good touch, he can see a pass and he’s got a goal in him. I said to Brucey: ‘He’s all of those things and he’s 6ft 1ins, 6ft 2ins – he can defend corner kicks as well.’

“I think there’s more to come from him as well, he’s got more to offer than he’s shown so far.

“People will say Burnley this or that but they keep finishing well in the Premier League and he’s been involved in that.

“He played narrow on the right for them and what I love about that is it’s not really his position but does he moan? Does he whinge? Does he hell. He just gets on and plays.

“He does what he does, fits in and does a job. I loved him with Ireland. He was terrific for me. He scored the winner in our first game, getting into the box and he’s got an eye for goal.

“You talked about mentality up in the North East. He’s got no hang ups. He’s a proper bloke. I didn’t see any hang ups in him.

“He played international level – he played against good teams in Switzerland and Denmark and did very, very well. He was as good as anyone else on the pitch in those matches.

“We played 4-3-3 and he played centrally. He’s a nice option to have narrow on the right if you’ve got a man like Allan Saint-Maximin who wanders and does damage in the box in a freer role.

“Jeff is a very safe option in that formation because he’ll offer that back-up and I’m sure there’ll be some consideration of that.”
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:35 pm
Steve Bruce asked Mick McCarthy about him and this is what McCarthy told Bruce.



“Steve rang me to ask about him and whether he’d be a good signing – and I told him exactly what I’m telling you. I just said: “Yes. In a heartbeat.”

“They were my first words. I think it’s a great signing. You don’t get too many as good as Jeff on a free transfer, that’s for sure. It’s an unbelievable bargain for Newcastle and I think he’ll be great for Steve.

“He’s been doing it for Burnley for four years in the Premier League. For me he was brilliant. I think he’s a very good player, he’s athletic, he’s got a good touch, he can see a pass and he’s got a goal in him. I said to Brucey: ‘He’s all of those things and he’s 6ft 1ins, 6ft 2ins – he can defend corner kicks as well.’

“I think there’s more to come from him as well, he’s got more to offer than he’s shown so far.

“People will say Burnley this or that but they keep finishing well in the Premier League and he’s been involved in that.

“He played narrow on the right for them and what I love about that is it’s not really his position but does he moan? Does he whinge? Does he hell. He just gets on and plays.

“He does what he does, fits in and does a job. I loved him with Ireland. He was terrific for me. He scored the winner in our first game, getting into the box and he’s got an eye for goal.

“You talked about mentality up in the North East. He’s got no hang ups. He’s a proper bloke. I didn’t see any hang ups in him.

“He played international level – he played against good teams in Switzerland and Denmark and did very, very well. He was as good as anyone else on the pitch in those matches.

“We played 4-3-3 and he played centrally. He’s a nice option to have narrow on the right if you’ve got a man like Allan Saint-Maximin who wanders and does damage in the box in a freer role.

“Jeff is a very safe option in that formation because he’ll offer that back-up and I’m sure there’ll be some consideration of that.”

When Mick sees Jeff

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9gsOrKQicE
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Jenny55 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:00 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:12 pm
Average player going to an average team. Move on folks, nothing o see.
You are correct about going to an average team, but as we know it was all about the money. As well as a handsome signing on fee he will probably be earning an extra £20k per week than he was on at Burnley. Can’t see him progressing his career up there. Regarding being average, yes he was average but at the same time perhaps not appreciated for the shifts he put in for the clarets sometimes in not his preferred position. He and Chris Wood were probably the two most criticised players in the team but both effective in certain games and situations. I would be concerned if we lost a player like Westwood, however with Jeff we dust ourselves down and move on. I wish him well for the future.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Right_winger » Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:40 pm

Don’t get all the love in for Hendrick at all. Was barely average for us. Went missing far too often in games.

We need to aiming for better players than the Jeff Hendrick’s of
This world.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:03 pm

One of the first names on the team sheet along with Chris Wood.
So if SD thinks he is good for the yeam I am not bothered about the numpties on this message board who don’t seem to have a clue about football
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:47 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:03 pm
One of the first names on the team sheet along with Chris Wood.
So if SD thinks he is good for the yeam I am not bothered about the numpties on this message board who don’t seem to have a clue about football

If in doubt just insult those who differ.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:47 pm

An honest opinion is only an insult to those who think the cap fits and the comment refers to them, otherwise, it is just a statement.
Mind you everyone is so precious these days so it does not take much to upset someone, somewhere because they all think that life is about them.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Untinted Glasses » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:49 pm

Is it only me that thinks hes not even a footballers cousin ? IMO championship player at best. However I do wish him good luck, nothing against him at all, he's just not a good footballer.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:53 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:40 pm
Don’t get all the love in for Hendrick at all. Was barely average for us. Went missing far too often in games.

We need to aiming for better players than the Jeff Hendrick’s of
This world.
when he played that "No 10" role we qualified for Europe.
I guess some will never see the good stuff he did for us, that's their choice.
I thought he was pretty decent, and wish we could have kept him.
Regardless of that i think we've had good value out of him. I wish him well, but not too well ;)
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:55 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:49 pm
Is it only me that thinks hes not even a footballers cousin ? IMO championship player at best. However I do wish him good luck, nothing against him at all, he's just not a good footballer.
4yrs in the PL and he's just signed for another PL club.

Apart from that, yeah a championship player at best :lol:
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Stan Tastic » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:07 pm

I can't remember anyone saying how much we missed him in the nine remaining games of last season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:27 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:07 pm
I can't remember anyone saying how much we missed him in the nine remaining games of last season.
We didn't miss Barnes either, so I'm guessing he also qualifies for Championship player at best status?

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:37 pm

Hendrick is probably the first ex player I WANT to line up against us. McNeil vs Hendrick is almost laughable.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:50 pm

Inchy wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:37 am
If he puts in a few anonymous performances Im certain that they will turn on him.


I will predict that he will do absolutely nothing up there and after 6 months he won’t be a regular starter.

I will bump this thread in 6 months when I’m proven correct

I still stand by this


Give it 6 months.


The only way he will be a regular is if Newcastle are awful

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:58 pm

Will be a regular at Newcastle all season
What a start
Bet Sean Dyche wishes he could pick him for our next match
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by DCWat » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 pm

I don’t think he will be a regular for the majority if the season for them. That’s not to say that he won’t be a useful addition (as he was for us) but for me, he lacks the consistency and quality to command a regular starting spot, more so if that was to be in a central position.
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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:58 pm
Will be a regular at Newcastle all season
What a start
Bet Sean Dyche wishes he could pick him for our next match

If Dyche wishes he could pick Hendrick in our next match all that shows is what a poor transfer window we have had

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:04 pm

I don’t think he will. Glad you are so pleased for the lad and Newcastle though.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:09 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 pm
If Dyche wishes he could pick Hendrick in our next match all that shows is what a poor transfer window we have had
Don't be ridiculous, it means he wanted to keep him because he can see how good a player he's been for us in the last four seasons. Why do you think Bruce was so keen to get him?

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:10 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:50 pm
I still stand by this


Give it 6 months.


The only way he will be a regular is if Newcastle are awful
It's already wrong, you predicted he'd do absolutely nothing.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:10 pm
It's already wrong, you predicted he'd do absolutely nothing.

1 goal and an assist does not mean he’s done anything considering what the mugs are paying him

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:09 pm
Don't be ridiculous, it means he wanted to keep him because he can see how good a player he's been for us in the last four seasons. Why do you think Bruce was so keen to get him?


Because it’s Steve Bruce

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:39 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm
1 goal and an assist does not mean he’s done anything considering what the mugs are paying him
What are they paying him?

I've seen nothing as yet in regards to his actual wage, just the odd comment on here that it's £45k a week.

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Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick becomes a Magpie

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:42 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:28 pm
Because it’s Steve Bruce
Who I would think, along with Sean Dyche, Mick McCarthy and Chris Powell, who heaped praise on Hendrick, know considerably more than you about football and the contribution Hendrick can give to a team.
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