ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

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ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:00 pm

Just the one player in the squad

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by burnmark » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:04 pm

I do think there are to many unrealistic claims for some of our players to be in the squad but I’m extremely surprised Tarkowski has not forced his way in this time.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ecc » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:05 pm

Well done, Nick!

But what's going on with no Tarky? Maguire gets in. Well deserved.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:06 pm

Another who thought Tarks might have got in the squad.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:08 pm

Mings in - Tarkowski out - makes no sense at all to me. I know I'm biased but I just don't get that at all.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:10 pm

No left back either in the squad

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:11 pm

Tarkowski should be in the England squad. If he played for Spurs or Arsenal for example, I am sure he would be in there.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:11 pm

Kalvin Phillips in :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:08 pm
Mings in - Tarkowski out - makes no sense at all to me. I know I'm biased but I just don't get that at all.
Joke.

No Grealish either.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by whiffa » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm

Keane and Mings in over Tarkowski, what an absolute joke of a system this is.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by claretgoss » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm

Three right backs but no left backs in the squad either, curious choice
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:11 pm
Joke.

No Grealish either.
But Phillips and Rice named for midfield. Dier and Mings at the back and is Abraham really worth a call up?

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Pearcey » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:18 pm

This news has been tainted for me after seeing that there’s no place for Tarkowski. Incredible decision!!
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:19 pm

Absolute joke media picks Mings,Phillip's,Rice,Dierbolical Donkey Abraham all not good enough
Maguire should be dropped for his antics in Greece as should Walker re Covid breach
Nick is the best English keeper as the stats prove and Tarks has been at his best

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by mdd2 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:25 pm

Bet he plays Pitchfork and Keane
Had he been playing Pope he should have selected Tarks too
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by whiffa » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:26 pm

claretgoss wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm
Three right backs but no left backs in the squad either, curious choice
I was about to post the same thing, to not even name a left back is curious, unless he expects the injured players to come back into contention in time?
Strange that the likes of Bertand, Taylor or even Saka at Arsenal haven't even been given a chance when no left-back even named at all.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:27 pm

Some absolute joke decisions, but who is surprised with that charlatan in charge. Even more reason not to bother watching any of the games now.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm
But Phillips and Rice named for midfield. Dier and Mings at the back and is Abraham really worth a call up?
Phillips has never kicked a ball in the PL though!! Abraham laughable. Mings over Tarks... seriously?

All just based around the media’s favoured clubs. There’s a reason I don’t watch England any more.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:29 pm

So much for Southgate initial claim that players will be picked on form and not reputation
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:30 pm

Tarks not getting selected shows how the freshness Sothgaye brought in is now turning stale. None of those CHs has had anywhere near the season that Tarks has.

I also don't get how Man U and Citeh players can play international football, yet need a rest before they can start the Premier League.
Utter boll9cks.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:30 pm

He's an absolute fraud, stealing a living.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:31 pm

Well done and well deserved Nick Pope.

Surprised at Tarkowski omission. Excellent for us. Will only make him want to move to a bigger club even more.

Tarks was one of the main reasons for Popes clean sheets as much as pope himself.

Abraham I can understand. While he’s been injured and featuring less recently he’s had an excellent season and shown how good he is.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by JohnMac » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:32 pm

I would have Ash Westwood all day over Kalvin Phillips and definitely James Tarkowski over Tyrone Mings. Trying to play out from the back is preventing defenders from being picked for their defensive ability.

Selfishly I'm glad our players can concentrate on Burnley.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:08 pm
Mings in - Tarkowski out - makes no sense at all to me. I know I'm biased but I just don't get that at all.
Add Dier to that list as well

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Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:33 pm

It really does cement the idea that Southgate is clearly out of his depth as England manager.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by whiffa » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:36 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:33 pm
Add Dier to that list as well
Southgate has now come out and confirmed Dier is picked as a Centre Back spot too. Makes me even more annoyed. Absolute pisstake.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:08 pm
Mings in - Tarkowski out - makes no sense at all to me. I know I'm biased but I just don't get that at all.
I’ve heard Mings might be going to a top six club, and that this deal will be tied up whilst he’s in international duty and in a bio bubble.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by aggi » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:08 pm
Mings in - Tarkowski out - makes no sense at all to me. I know I'm biased but I just don't get that at all.
When Mings was first called up I remember some comments from Southgate about wanting a left footed centre back which may explain it a little.

Although I'd rate Mings higher than Dier.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:39 pm

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cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:31 pm
Well done and well deserved Nick Pope.

Surprised at Tarkowski omission. Excellent for us. Will only make him want to move to a bigger club even more.

Tarks was one of the main reasons for Popes clean sheets as much as pope himself.

Abraham I can understand. While he’s been injured and featuring less recently he’s had an excellent season and shown how good he is.

If you’re Tarks you’re thinking just that!

Hopefully this club will be able to shortly give him the right platform...

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:42 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm
Keane and Mings in over Tarkowski, what an absolute joke of a system this is.
Ridiculous decision.
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Post by Flying Without Ings » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:42 pm

Although he is yet to play in the Prem, Phillips looks a much better holding-type midfielder than the likes of Rice, or Dier, from what I've seen. Gutted we never signed him in the end - he's probably worth nearly double now.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by claretgoss » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:43 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:26 pm
I was about to post the same thing, to not even name a left back is curious, unless he expects the injured players to come back into contention in time?
Strange that the likes of Bertand, Taylor or even Saka at Arsenal haven't even been given a chance when no left-back even named at all.
Yeah don't know if Rose is injured either, but it must be very disheartening for those players that he'd rather go with no left sided fullbacks than them.

Surprised not to see Grealish in there either, but Tarkowski is definitely the biggest omission I didn't expect. Dier, Keane and Mings? It's been so long, you forget how frustrating England squad announcements are!
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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

If you’re Tarks, Taylor, Pope you’re in the managers ear talking to him about the direction of the club.

This strengthens any approach for Taylor and IF a north west club come for Tarks he’s got to think about going in order to ‘prove’ himself.

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Post by Murger » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:52 pm

Southgate is a fraud. IDST!!

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Post by ecc » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:01 pm

Is Dier in charge of security?

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Post by scouseclaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:02 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:31 pm
Well done and well deserved Nick Pope.

Surprised at Tarkowski omission. Excellent for us. Will only make him want to move to a bigger club even more.
That’s what really pisses me off about it. Southgate hasn’t got the guts to go with players from “lesser” clubs even though form demands it. Tarkowski is bound to conclude that his only option, if he wants to play for England, is to move.

Meanwhile there’s a place for a player who’s had a bang average season and who is currently banged up in Greece with the possibility of a jail sentence hanging over him...

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Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 pm

Shame about Tarky, however we Clarets can take pride in the fact that there is one current Burnley player in the squad and three ex players as well. From that perspective I think that makes Burnley the best represented club after Manchester United.
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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:04 pm

Well done Nick Pope.

Tarkowski and Grealish not included is bonkers.

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Post by Dinks » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm

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Unbelievable hes not picked JT
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Post by eastanglianclaret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:07 pm

I'm always amazed at what some managers see in certain players. Mings is a case in point. Top end Championship at best. With respect to Dier every Tottenham fan I know says he's been exactly that this season. I can't help but believe that if Tarks had played as well as he did last season for any top six team then he'd be one of the first names on the England team sheet. Southgate always has worried me and continues to do so.........the last World Cup obviously did a lot for his CV but I've never kidded myself to believe that he had anything other than an easy ride. As much fun as it was to watch the tournament as an England fan we only played one decent team in that competition ie Belgium (I include Croatia in that statement) and they beat us twice at a canter.

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Post by MT03ALG » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

Tarko needs to get himself a higher profile with a visit to Mykonos !!

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:12 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:01 pm
Is Dier in charge of security?
No but his granddad used to be in charge of the FA so he got a good start.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:16 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:33 pm
It really does cement the idea that Southgate is clearly out of his depth as England manager.
Always believed he just got luck with the World Cup

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Bigvince » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:16 pm

I’ve never been convinced by Southgate either, we had a good run in the last World Cup, but all the teams we beat were lower in world ranking than England

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:17 pm

Southgate has probably achieved more than any England manager since Bobby Robson in getting us to a World cup semi final. Yet he's a clueless idiot supposedly for not picking Tarkowski. Maybe its because he's had a look at him and he doesn't think he's up to it? Do people honestly believe its down to some anti-Burnley conspiracy?
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:19 pm

The voice of reason... Any chance to talk down anything Burnley is gladly taken

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:20 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:17 pm
Southgate has probably achieved more than any England manager since Bobby Robson in getting us to a World cup semi final. Yet he's a clueless idiot supposedly for not picking Tarkowski. Maybe its because he's had a look at him and he doesn't think he's up to it? Do people honestly believe its down to some anti-Burnley conspiracy?
defensive stats in europe put Tarks in second place behind VVD

If he doesn't rate him then fair enough BUT to include Kalvin Philips who has never kicked a ball in the top league is embarrassing.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:23 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:17 pm
Southgate has probably achieved more than any England manager since Bobby Robson in getting us to a World cup semi final. Yet he's a clueless idiot supposedly for not picking Tarkowski. Maybe its because he's had a look at him and he doesn't think he's up to it? Do people honestly believe its down to some anti-Burnley conspiracy?
Not just Tarkowski missing though is it? Some of the names in that squad beggar belief.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:24 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:17 pm
Southgate has probably achieved more than any England manager since Bobby Robson in getting us to a World cup semi final. Yet he's a clueless idiot supposedly for not picking Tarkowski. Maybe its because he's had a look at him and he doesn't think he's up to it? Do people honestly believe its down to some anti-Burnley conspiracy?
What about Grealish? Are you saying Southgate might not think he's up to it either?

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope named in England squad

Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:28 pm

claretgoss wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:12 pm
Three right backs but no left backs in the squad either, curious choice
Dier :lol:

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