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Messi

Post by NickPopeFan » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:55 pm

Just seen messi in Manchester!!

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Re: Messi

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:59 pm

NickPopeFan wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:55 pm
Just seen messi in Manchester!!
Hes on his way to the Turf ;)
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Re: Messi

Post by Bigvince » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:03 pm

He’ll have to self isolate for 14 days!
As a none national will he be eligible for the £13 a day?

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Re: Messi

Post by fanzone » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:40 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:03 pm
He’ll have to self isolate for 14 days!
As a none national will he be eligible for the £13 a day?
I bet he would claim it aswell the tax dodging two hat

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:54 pm

Waiting for the X43?

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Re: Messi

Post by Bosscat » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:56 pm

Seans got the Omelette pan on ready 👍

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Re: Messi

Post by Dyched » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:00 pm

What a weird lie. “Mmm, y’know what?!?. I’ll log on to utc and tell everyone I’ve seen Messi, hahah”. “It’d be well funny, mega lolzz”.

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Re: Messi

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:07 pm

Apparantly neymar beggin PSG to sign his pal

Same Neymar wanting to leave

Hmm

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Re: Messi

Post by k90bfc » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:09 pm

Hes sent His Dad,to clinch the deal,sorted!

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Re: Messi

Post by Bigvince » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:21 pm

Dyched wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:00 pm
What a weird lie. “Mmm, y’know what?!?. I’ll log on to utc and tell everyone I’ve seen Messi, hahah”. “It’d be well funny, mega lolzz”.
Yeh it can’t be true unless he’s seen him in park view chippy!!!

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Re: Messi

Post by tiger76 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:27 pm

Well he's not on his way to Anfield anyway https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53944598

If he can't agree a deal with City and reunite with Pep, it wouldn't surprise me if he was still a Barca player next season.

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:36 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:27 pm
If he can't agree a deal with City and reunite with Pep, it wouldn't surprise me if he was still a Barca player next season.
He's still favourite with the bookies to stay at Barca and sign a new contract. Which wouldn't exactly be that surprising.

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Re: Messi

Post by Jel » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:48 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:56 pm
Seans got the Omelette pan on ready 👍
He needs to up his game for this one.
Tortilla should swing it!

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Re: Messi

Post by Wellsy1882 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:36 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:27 pm
Well he's not on his way to Anfield anyway https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53944598

If he can't agree a deal with City and reunite with Pep, it wouldn't surprise me if he was still a Barca player next season.
Hel go to a big club thats why

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Re: Messi

Post by BenWickes » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:10 pm

There a mock up of Messi in a Burnley shirt on BBC Football headline page :lol:

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Re: Messi

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:13 pm

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Manchester City are favourites for understandable reasons but there are a variety of English clubs where Messi would fit in nicely...

Burnley

Burnley manager Sean Dyche engaged in some upbeat banter with journalists last week when he joked that Messi had agreed to join the Clarets.

But what if the Barca captain did just that? Would Messi trotting out at Turf Moor in claret and blue help the club or hinder them?

Since returning to the top flight under Dyche in 2016, Burnley have averaged 40 league goals per season. In the same period Messi has averaged 33. Seems like an easy win, then, to add the Argentine to Burnley's attack, but remember: Barcelona have averaged 98 goals per season in the same period, which is 2.45 times as many as the Clarets.

Apply that Burnley goal reduction to Messi (he's good but has he ever truly felt the cold touch of an evening game in mid-Lancashire in February?) and his average is reduced to about 13.5 goals.

So, in the realm of what Chris Wood produced for the club in 2019-20.

Am I saying Wood is as effective a player as Messi? No. Am I saying Wood offers more when defending corners? Probably, yes.
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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:15 pm

Bizarre article.

Lionel Messi transfer request: Which English team would suit Barcelona captain best? - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53950439

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Re: Messi

Post by Vintage Claret » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:28 pm

Our shirt actually suits Messi, shame our wages would probably be a tad short of what he's used to..

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:29 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:15 pm
Bizarre article.

Lionel Messi transfer request: Which English team would suit Barcelona captain best? - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53950439
I feel like going back to bed and pretending I never read that.
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Re: Messi

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm

He won’t come to Burnley. Man City would be able to offer him a much higher salary.

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:10 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm
He won’t come to Burnley. Man City would be able to offer him a much higher salary.
You should back things like that up with facts.
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Re: Messi

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:18 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm
He won’t come to Burnley. Man City would be able to offer him a much higher salary.
But we might be more flexible with his image rights. You're being a bit naive thinking it's all about headline salary in this day and age.
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Re: Messi

Post by bobinho » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm
He won’t come to Burnley. Man City would be able to offer him a much higher salary.
Anyone else hear the “whoosh”?

Seriously tho, if he came here, he’d have to wait for his chance. No one is a guaranteed starter here. :lol:
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Re: Messi

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:25 pm

Could Burnley con him into believing he is playing for Manchester City, do you think he representatives are that diligent when reading contracts?

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Re: Messi

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:29 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:25 pm
Could Burnley con him into believing he is playing for Manchester City, do you think he representatives are that diligent when reading contracts?
Weren't Man City's owners under the impression they were buying Utd. Perhaps we could do the same sort of thing with Messi.

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:40 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:22 pm
Anyone else hear the “whoosh”?
Ah you spoiled it.

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Re: Messi

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:52 pm

Are we signing him or not? 26 posts and not one confirming it. Please don't clog up the messageboard with drivel if you haven't got a bullsh1t link. Thank you.
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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:55 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:52 pm
Are we signing him or not? 26 posts and not one confirming it. Please don't clog up the messageboard with drivel if you haven't got a bullsh1t link. Thank you.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssi-875476
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Re: Messi

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:40 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:29 pm
Weren't Man City's owners under the impression they were buying Utd. Perhaps we could do the same sort of thing with Messi.
Robinho apparently didn't know there was another club in Manchester and thought he signing for Utd.

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Re: Messi

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:51 pm

I just wish he'd make a decision, this saga is rapidly becoming boring already, and it's taking up far too many column inches, yes it's Messi, but he's 33, and anyone that pays his release clause has more money than sense, sadly there is plenty of club owners who do have more money than sense in the modern era.

No good to us as he wouldn't reduce the average age of our squad, we've already got too many the wrong side of 30 ;)

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Re: Messi

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:55 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:51 pm
I just wish he'd make a decision, this saga is rapidly becoming boring already, and it's taking up far too many column inches, yes it's Messi, but he's 33, and anyone that pays his release clause has more money than sense, sadly there is plenty of club owners who do have more money than sense in the modern era.

No good to us as he wouldn't reduce the average age of our squad, we've already got too many the wrong side of 30 ;)
And his ego would destroy the dressing room spirit that we have. Apparently he wants to move to City to give himself the chance to win the Ballon d'Or a couple more times.

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Re: Messi

Post by whiffa » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:56 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:51 pm
I just wish he'd make a decision, this saga is rapidly becoming boring already, and it's taking up far too many column inches, yes it's Messi, but he's 33, and anyone that pays his release clause has more money than sense, sadly there is plenty of club owners who do have more money than sense in the modern era.

No good to us as he wouldn't reduce the average age of our squad, we've already got too many the wrong side of 30 ;)
What release clause? I heard he had something in his contract that allowed him to leave as a free agent at the end of last season? As long as he takes the option before the new season starts?

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Re: Messi

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:59 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:55 pm
And his ego would destroy the dressing room spirit that we have. Apparently he wants to move to City to give himself the chance to win the Ballon d'Or a couple more times.
It has been noted that his team ethic has been sorely missing in the last couple of seasons at Barca, you do have to wonder whether the fame has gone to his head, there's no I in team, no matter who you are.

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:04 pm

whiffa wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:56 pm
What release clause? I heard he had something in his contract that allowed him to leave as a free agent at the end of last season? As long as he takes the option before the new season starts?
Had to hand in a transfer request before a specific date, in June, but his argument is the season didn't finish until recently so by default his date to request transfer also moved.
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Re: Messi

Post by giveusaB » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:40 pm

Hope we get back on the turf.We have city at home on a Tuesday night in February with a possibility of Messi under the lights.I bet he’s a glove wearer.

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Re: Messi

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:04 pm
Had to hand in a transfer request before a specific date, in June, but his argument is the season didn't finish until recently so by default his date to request transfer also moved.
Which La Liga have said is incorrect and his release clause needs to be paid.

So, saga over. Will be dragged out another month before he signs a new contract, in my opinion.

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:50 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:47 pm
Which La Liga have said is incorrect and his release clause needs to be paid.

So, saga over. Will be dragged out another month before he signs a new contract, in my opinion.
I really can't see him moving anywhere. The chairman of Barca doesn't want that on his CV - that he's let the best player on the planet to leave his football club.

I expect him to patch things over and sign a very healthy contract.

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Re: Messi

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:56 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:50 pm
I really can't see him moving anywhere. The chairman of Barca doesn't want that on his CV - that he's let the best player on the planet to leave his football club.

I expect him to patch things over and sign a very healthy contract.
Then I guess we'll just have to qualify for the Champion's League if we want to see him play on'Turf.

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:02 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:47 pm
Which La Liga have said is incorrect and his release clause needs to be paid.

So, saga over. Will be dragged out another month before he signs a new contract, in my opinion.
This could potentially be tested in court.
The fact he's not turned up for Covid testing or training would suggest he's wanting to leave now.

On the radio they were saying he was planning this since last season, before the lockdown.

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Re: Messi

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:05 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:56 pm
Then I guess we'll just have to qualify for the Champion's League if we want to see him play on'Turf.
Pretty much pal, pretty much.

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Re: Messi

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:10 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:02 pm
This could potentially be tested in court.
The fact he's not turned up for Covid testing or training would suggest he's wanting to leave now.

On the radio they were saying he was planning this since last season, before the lockdown.
If so, you'd think he would have been sure to get his dates right and ask for a transfer before June 10th.

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Re: Messi

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:15 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:10 pm
If so, you'd think he would have been sure to get his dates right and ask for a transfer before June 10th.
The season was suspended, I haven't seen the clause so I don't know if it had to be a set number of days before end of season or a set calender date.

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Re: Messi

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:25 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:15 pm
The season was suspended, I haven't seen the clause so I don't know if it had to be a set number of days before end of season or a set calender date.
We all know the season was suspended, so why would he take the risk of going past June 10th then hope to get away with it on a technicality when there's so much at stake? If he'd stuck to the original date, there wouldn't have been a problem.

That makes me think his decision to leave was very recent.

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Re: Messi

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:35 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:51 pm
...No good to us as he wouldn't reduce the average age of our squad...
and let's be honest, he's a better than average footballer, but he's not Robbie Blake.

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Re: Messi

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:37 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:35 pm
and let's be honest, he's a better than average footballer, but he's not Robbie Blake.
Or Glen Little :)
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Re: Messi

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:25 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:59 pm
It has been noted that his team ethic has been sorely missing in the last couple of seasons at Barca, you do have to wonder whether the fame has gone to his head, there's no I in team, no matter who you are.
Actually, in Spanish there is an ‘I’ in team.

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Re: Messi

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:33 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:02 pm
This could potentially be tested in court.
The fact he's not turned up for Covid testing or training would suggest he's wanting to leave now.

On the radio they were saying he was planning this since last season, before the lockdown.
Can not believe a lawyer will have drafted a clause like this without it being a specific date. There won’t be any ambiguity over a clause that represents the difference between a free transfer & a £600m fee.

I think it’s an almighty PR stunt. If he wants out so much why doesn’t he just release a public statement?

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Re: Messi

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:59 pm

Well! blow me down, reading the gossip columns and it sounds like Messi might be staying put after all, the offer of a new 2 year contract is on the table from Barca, and it's being strongly considered.

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Re: Messi

Post by conyoviejo » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:16 pm

Garlick refused to pay his Air fare over here ,so he's decided to stop at Barca if Burnley won't have him.

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Re: Messi

Post by Jimmymaccer » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:19 pm

Staying at Barca.......

Shock horror story....

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