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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:39 pm

Low numbers. Socially distanced. Masks required. But a positive move all the same.

Having spent the day in Lytham where there was zero distancing. And drove through Blackpool where it was the busiest I’ve ever seen, let’s hope fans in stadiums are low risk (that was always the message at the start with Cheltenham etc) and fans returning in bigger numbers soon.
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Re: Fans return

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:45 pm

Can you pay on the day?

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:39 pm
Low numbers. Socially distanced. Masks required. But a positive move all the same.

Having spent the day in Lytham where there was zero distancing. And drove through Blackpool where it was the busiest I’ve ever seen, let’s hope fans in stadiums are low risk (that was always the message at the start with Cheltenham etc) and fans returning in bigger numbers soon.
Fans in stadiums aren't necessarily the problem, it's the travelling to and from the venues that carries a bigger risk, the information seems to be that the virus is far less potent in an outdoor environment, so you'd hope that outdoor sporting events such as cricket, footy, horse racing, and rugby would be able to admit supporters soon, albeit in limited numbers initially.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:53 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:47 pm
Fans in stadiums aren't necessarily the problem, it's the travelling to and from the venues that carries a bigger risk, the information seems to be that the virus is far less potent in an outdoor environment, so you'd hope that outdoor sporting events such as cricket, footy, horse racing, and rugby would be able to admit supporters soon, albeit in limited numbers initially.
Let’s hope so. Can’t bare the thought of a full season like the 9 game restart (albeit absolutely the right thing to do).

Can’t see how it’s not possible with temperature checks, mandatory sanitising and masks. If you can travel on a plane for x hours in similar circumstances, you should be able to attend an open air sporting event.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:54 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:47 pm
Fans in stadiums aren't necessarily the problem, it's the travelling to and from the venues that carries a bigger risk, the information seems to be that the virus is far less potent in an outdoor environment, so you'd hope that outdoor sporting events such as cricket, footy, horse racing, and rugby would be able to admit supporters soon, albeit in limited numbers initially.
Not sure that’s true. How is travelling to a stadium more of a risk?

Even if the virus is less potent outdoors fans are still sat shoulder to shoulder and knee to back, all the while shouting and singing. Then there is the issue of congested concourses.

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:16 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:54 pm
Not sure that’s true. How is travelling to a stadium more of a risk?

Even if the virus is less potent outdoors fans are still sat shoulder to shoulder and knee to back, all the while shouting and singing. Then there is the issue of congested concourses.
That's why it's being introduced on a gradual basis, I certainly don't expect any stadiums being allowed more than 50% capacities before the turn of the year, and that's possibly optimistic.

These are only trials with very small numbers, and things like staggered entry in force, there certainly won't be any crowded concourses or turnstile entries in the near future, this will be taken in baby steps.

But at least it's a start, and if it goes well, then they might extend it to other grounds on a game by game basis.

They had this discussion on the Scottish football coverage earlier, and it was made clear that it would be a lot easier to allow say 5-10,000 fans into Celtic Park and Ibrox, because naturally they are much larger grounds, and it should be easier to space crowds out, and have various points of entry and exit, maybe some type of one-way system as well.

At the smaller grounds things such as these are much harder to put in place, and the facilities aren't always up to standard anyway, plus some of the smaller grounds have standing areas, which by their nature will encourage groups to congregate in larger groups and not socially distance, with seated areas it's much easier to implement a specific seat to somebody, and ensure that the nearby seats aren't occupied.

On the issue of travelling to stadiums, not everybody has their own method of transport, and they'd have to rely on public transport which is perceived as a high risk area of virus spread, hence why face coverings are compulsory now on all forms of transport, as social distancing is difficult.

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Re: Fans return

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:20 pm

I expected bubbles to be sat horizontally from other bubbles/people not directly in front/behind.

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Re: Fans return

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:31 pm

Yeah, thought people may have been sat in a more distanced zig zag fashion. Also no masks being worn in that photo. I dunno, hopefully this is a positive start anyway.

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Re: Fans return

Post by claretlegend » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:43 pm

Has anything being said by us regarding season tickets? I was just about the renew on the early bird when they were taken off. If only a small percentage of ST holders can go does this mean I've no chance?

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Post by nighty » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:01 pm

were over in tenerife and masks must be worn when walking anywere in public ,once you get to a bar or cafe etc you can remove it but then inside all workers who serve you have to wear a mask at all times , to be fair it becomes normality after a couple of days.I beleive it will stay this way until a vaccine is found

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Re: Fans return

Post by fanzone » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:13 pm

Rather watch it on tele

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Post by Terrier » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:20 pm

One thing im not yet sure of is can i still go on with members of my family, we gone on together for 30 yr plus and is part of the match day enjoyment.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:47 pm
Fans in stadiums aren't necessarily the problem, it's the travelling to and from the venues that carries a bigger risk, the information seems to be that the virus is far less potent in an outdoor environment, so you'd hope that outdoor sporting events such as cricket, footy, horse racing, and rugby would be able to admit supporters soon, albeit in limited numbers initially.
Agree

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:30 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:31 pm
Yeah, thought people may have been sat in a more distanced zig zag fashion. Also no masks being worn in that photo. I dunno, hopefully this is a positive start anyway.
Only had to wear them in concourses and on their way into the ground and their seats. Not once sat apart

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Re: Fans return

Post by dougcollins » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:26 pm

Chess-board stylee would have worked better?

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Re: Fans return

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:47 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:26 pm
Chess-board stylee would have worked better?
Only bishops allowed?

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Re: Fans return

Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:47 pm
Only bishops allowed?
Or Queens 🤔

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Post by NottsClaret » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:26 pm

Already been going to watch local cricket and non league football. Preliminary FA cup game on Tuesday, just under max 300 expected. Got to say, having a pint, walking up and paying on the day is pretty good.

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Post by wembley94 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:37 pm

Stockport County ground capacity 10.800.have been told that 2700 will be allowed.into Edgeley Park for the start of next season.season ticket holders can renew on 1st September.so Burnley should be allowed around 5000 +

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:59 pm

wembley94 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:37 pm
Stockport County ground capacity 10.800.have been told that 2700 will be allowed.into Edgeley Park for the start of next season.season ticket holders can renew on 1st September.so Burnley should be allowed around 5000 +
25% capacity max sounds about right to me to ensure social distancing can be adhered too, it's not ideal but it's a damn sight better than nobody attending.

How they'll divvy the allocation up is a good :?: in that case, I guess we've currently got a lot more than 5k ST holders.

Ballot possibly or loyalty points, whatever they decide it won't please everyone, but special times call for special measures I suppose.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:04 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:59 pm
25% capacity max sounds about right to me to ensure social distancing can be adhered too, it's not ideal but it's a damn sight better than nobody attending.

How they'll divvy the allocation up is a good :?: in that case, I guess we've currently got a lot more than 5k ST holders.

Ballot possibly or loyalty points, whatever they decide it won't please everyone, but special times call for special measures I suppose.
Apparently only sold around 10k. With cancellations etc. So I’d imagine rotate those 5k each week to start.

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Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:07 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:04 pm
Apparently only sold around 10k. With cancellations etc. So I’d imagine rotate those 5k each week to start.
As long as my brother gets the nod with me 🙂 as he doesn't drive 😂

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Post by dpinsussex » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:06 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:13 pm
Rather watch it on tele
It.was Brighton tbf

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:08 pm

Does everyone have to social distance? I live at home with my dad and sit next to him on the turf but as I understand it we would have to social distance from each other?

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:09 pm

A Leeds supporting mate of mine said that they could register themselves as a bubble of up to 10 who were guaranteed to attend the same games. Sounds like a good idea and hopefully one that we will implement.

I’m guessing the people who cancelled their season tickets for a refund when given the option won’t be eligible to attend?

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Post by kritichris » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:49 pm

I've not had a season ticket for ages due to location but being fair they (season ticket holders) should be given priority.
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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:58 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:08 pm
Does everyone have to social distance? I live at home with my dad and sit next to him on the turf but as I understand it we would have to social distance from each other?
You and your Dad are part of the same bubble and therefore you shouldn't have to sit apart.

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Post by Row Z » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:15 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:58 pm
You and your Dad are part of the same bubble and therefore you shouldn't have to sit apart.
Didn't notice anyone sitting together at the Brighton v Chelsea game. Yes it was a trial but can't see it being a coincidence that nobody was sat together.

They can't dish out tickets on the assumption of people being in the same bubble as what if that changes before the day of the match and a relative was to go instead, they'd have to shunt everyone on that row along to accommodate.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:24 am

Row Z wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:15 am
Didn't notice anyone sitting together at the Brighton v Chelsea game. Yes it was a trial but can't see it being a coincidence that nobody was sat together.

They can't dish out tickets on the assumption of people being in the same bubble as what if that changes before the day of the match and a relative was to go instead, they'd have to shunt everyone on that row along to accommodate.
From the picture it looked like they were told to only sit in odd (or even) numbered seats.

I would have thought alternating the numbers used on each row would have been better for both social distancing and making the stands look more filled

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:52 am

Row Z wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:15 am
Didn't notice anyone sitting together at the Brighton v Chelsea game. Yes it was a trial but can't see it being a coincidence that nobody was sat together.

They can't dish out tickets on the assumption of people being in the same bubble as what if that changes before the day of the match and a relative was to go instead, they'd have to shunt everyone on that row along to accommodate.
I can’t imagine you’ll be sitting directly next to your ‘bubble’. You will just be able to attend the game with them and presumably be allocated seats together but spaced out. The unallocated seats will be taped and the same seats will be used for all games.

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Post by groove » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:48 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:26 pm
Chess-board stylee would have worked better?
Would have failed safety checks.
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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:50 am

Looks like a fun day out.

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Post by TopCat » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:04 pm

What happens if you have kids?

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Post by Loyalclaret » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:32 pm

Row Z wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:15 am
Didn't notice anyone sitting together at the Brighton v Chelsea game. Yes it was a trial but can't see it being a coincidence that nobody was sat together.

They can't dish out tickets on the assumption of people being in the same bubble as what if that changes before the day of the match and a relative was to go instead, they'd have to shunt everyone on that row along to accommodate.
Heard a lad on 5Live who was going to the match with his mother, they were not allowed to sit together

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:11 pm

Craig Hope, the Daily Mail's North East football correspondent, has just tweeted the below:


NUFC tell supporters with corporate boxes to plan for a return on October 3 (v Burnley) at half box capacity, with PL clubs confident fans will be able to attend from next month. Hope is that significantly more than a third of 52k will be back at SJP
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:11 pm
Craig Hope, the Daily Mail's North East football correspondent, has just tweeted the below:


NUFC tell supporters with corporate boxes to plan for a return on October 3 (v Burnley) at half box capacity, with PL clubs confident fans will be able to attend from next month. Hope is that significantly more than a third of 52k will be back at SJP
Sounds promising. Actually thought exec boxes only would be a good start. At the turf today the games hargreqves windows have all been tinted. Usually you can only watch from behind blinds so as not to have drink on display.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:17 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:11 pm
Craig Hope, the Daily Mail's North East football correspondent, has just tweeted the below:


NUFC tell supporters with corporate boxes to plan for a return on October 3 (v Burnley) at half box capacity, with PL clubs confident fans will be able to attend from next month. Hope is that significantly more than a third of 52k will be back at SJP
That’s an interesting one. Wasn’t expecting any club to be allowed as many as a third in once they can start admitting people from October. I think it is going to differ though in terms of percentages from ground to ground.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:17 pm
That’s an interesting one. Wasn’t expecting any club to be allowed as many as a third in once they can start admitting people from October. I think it is going to differ though in terms of percentages from ground to ground.
I imagine the size and layout of sjp will help.

Although access via lifts and stairs etc may actually conflict with that. The away end especially is very tightly packed.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:28 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:11 pm
Craig Hope, the Daily Mail's North East football correspondent, has just tweeted the below:


NUFC tell supporters with corporate boxes to plan for a return on October 3 (v Burnley) at half box capacity, with PL clubs confident fans will be able to attend from next month. Hope is that significantly more than a third of 52k will be back at SJP
That was the last ground, apart from ours, that I was in just two weeks before the City game was called off. Social distancing? The crushing at half time was frightening.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:32 pm

Last time i was there. I think I will be glad if masks remain mandatory.
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Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:33 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:32 pm
Last time i was there. I think I will be glad if masks remain mandatory.
Are you the one on the right?
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Post by Father Jack » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:18 am

I’d heard that clubs using software to calculate safe seating arrangements were getting c.25% capacity but Old Trafford will be allowed 31% because they’ve used a consultant to calculate their viable capacity and it’s come in slightly higher.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:55 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:33 pm
Are you the one on the right?
I’m not that normal.
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Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:17 pm

More test events in the pipeline.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54014149

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53997887

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53997289

That Twickenham game will be a severe test as to how far attendances can be increased, if they can host that match without incident, then that's a really promising sign of progress.

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Post by Spike » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:58 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:39 pm
Low numbers. Socially distanced. Masks required. But a positive move all the same.

Having spent the day in Lytham where there was zero distancing. And drove through Blackpool where it was the busiest I’ve ever seen, let’s hope fans in stadiums are low risk (that was always the message at the start with Cheltenham etc) and fans returning in bigger numbers soon.
There aren’t any families sat together which would allow more in, Perhaps no-One would want to sit next to a Brighton fan anyway

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Post by bfcmik » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:11 pm

At a committee meeting this morning my walking football club has been told that group numbers per session can rise from the current 32 player maximum to 36 from Sept 19th and unlimited from 1st October.(10 a side is the most our pitches can reasonably manage) Changing facilities should remain socially isolated IF POSSIBLE. Over 70s are to be allowed back for sessions from Sept 16th.

That is another big reduction in lockdown rules!
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Post by JohnMac » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:24 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:32 pm
Last time i was there. I think I will be glad if masks remain mandatory.
Last time I saw Rocky he was sat in Barclays and had his mask on but under his chin :D

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Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:26 pm

Well today has put a dampener on getting back in grounds from October. Plans have been ‘put on hold’.

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Post by Local cricketer » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:27 pm

Won't be anytime soon

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Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:48 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:27 pm
Won't be anytime soon
In the year 2525 ..If man is still alive. :D

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