He’s called up Conor Coady (Wolves) and also Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Arsenal).

Bizarre selection but typical of Southgate.

Thought he had taste. Oh well.

I like Coady but I think what has happened in the last week must suggest that Tarky has no international future.

Hahahahahaha. What a fraud Southgate is.

When I read the thread title I thought he'd come out of retirement and selected himself over Tarkowski.

Southgate will be gone soon... he’s not the man to trust with such a talented generation we’ve got coming through.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:10 pm

I like Coady but I think what has happened in the last week must suggest that Tarky has no international future.

Could it be to do with our style of play? Coady plays in a back 3, as do most of his CB choices (I think).

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:16 pm

Could it be to do with our style of play? Coady plays in a back 3, as do most of his CB choices (I think).

It’s clearly that but strange that he had him on standby for the World Cup.

Coady and Tarky should’ve been in from the start. Dier and Mings should be nowhere near. As already said, Tarky clearly has no future at that level under Southgate.

Southgate is clueless he will probably select Pitchfork or Henderson instead on English No1 Nick

Is Tarks injured and the club just haven't announced it? I haven't seen him in any of the training videos.

Bizarre decision by Southgate if not.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Is Tarks injured and the club just haven't announced it? I haven't seen him in any of the training videos.

Bizarre decision by Southgate if not.

Tarky played in one of today's friendlies.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... d-running/

He’s a goofy, bottling prick.

He’d probably pick himself over Tarkowski, the arrogant ****.

I've been Southgate out since the day he got the job so my opinion has nothing to do with him not calling up our players. He'd done nothing in his managerial career to warrant getting the job. FA and big club yes man, I look forward to the day he gets replaced

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:37 pm

I've been Southgate out since the day he got the job so my opinion has nothing to do with him not calling up our players. He'd done nothing in his managerial career to warrant getting the job. FA and big club yes man, I look forward to the day he gets replaced

by Alan pardew.......

If Tarks got a transfer to one of the so called top six clubs he'd soon get a call up no matter what system that club played.

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:47 pm

If Tarks got a transfer to one of the so called top six clubs he'd soon get a call up no matter what system that club played.

This thought occurred to me as well, let's hope that notion isn't tested this window.

Has Dyche bummed Southgates wife?

I've seen all the usual comments saying "it's big club bias", or it's because he plays for us and we don't play *ahem* Football™ but I think we can just come to the conclusion that's he's just not that good. I think he's trying too hard to evolve us into a team that plays a style of football that despite looking great against Panama etc, isn't all that great when Belgium turn up.

If only Fat Sam didn't bugger it up. Not everyone's favourite but I think he would have at least given us a team that plays to it's strengths.

Tarkowski is a top centre half. I can only think he has made this decision based on his underwhelming performances on previous England games and perhaps what he’s seen in training.

The only possible explanation for his omission is that Southgate is under the impression that Tarkowski is eligible for the Polish national team and not the English one.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Is Tarks injured and the club just haven't announced it? I haven't seen him in any of the training videos.

Bizarre decision by Southgate if not.

Played today

Southgate makes these decisions to remind everyone he always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Absolute smug and pomp and just so full of himself. He is so easy to dislike and root against.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:18 pm

It’s clearly that but strange that he had him on standby for the World Cup.

I suppose this playing out from the back philosophy has gone even further since then.
I don't think too many modern CBs have to win lots of aerial duels.
In the same way i seriously doubt that Nick Pope will ever get picked as first choice for England; catching crosses is not a pre-requisite of the modern international goalkeeper.
I still think the are brilliant, though!

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:36 pm

I suppose this playing out from the back philosophy has gone even further since then.
I don't think too many modern CBs have to win lots of aerial duels.
In the same way i seriously doubt that Nick Pope will ever get picked as first choice for England; catching crosses is not a pre-requisite of the modern international goalkeeper.
I still think the are brilliant, though!

It's drivel though because Tarky can play football. Southgate has seen him enough. You still have to be able to defend anyway.

Fair enough that Coady gets called up, but some of the ones already picked are the real head scratchers.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:36 pm

I suppose this playing out from the back philosophy has gone even further since then.
I don't think too many modern CBs have to win lots of aerial duels.
In the same way i seriously doubt that Nick Pope will ever get picked as first choice for England; catching crosses is not a pre-requisite of the modern international goalkeeper.
I still think the are brilliant, though!

That's why Man City under Guardiola struggle against the best teams in Europe because he has defenders who can't defend and a goalkeeper who isn't that good at stopping shots.

But as long as they can pass to each other.......

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:26 pm

That's why Man City under Guardiola struggle against the best teams in Europe because he has defenders who can't defend and a goalkeeper who isn't that good at stopping shots.

But as long as they can pass to each other.......

Who have they struggled against?

claretgoss wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:34 pm

Who have they struggled against?

Since Guardiola took charge they haven't got past the quarter finals in the CL.

Why can’t people wrap their head around the fact that Southgate wants his CH to play a certain way. He picks players that play that way at club level. He doesn’t want to play a defender who has his RB and 2 CMs within 10 yards of him 95% of the game. Different CH play a different way. Whys that so hard to understand? If we wanted a target man and bought Brewster to do it, everyone would understand that doesn’t work. So why is it people can’t fathom CH are not all the same?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:26 pm

That's why Man City under Guardiola struggle against the best teams in Europe because he has defenders who can't defend and a goalkeeper who isn't that good at stopping shots.

But as long as they can pass to each other.......

How many league titles have you won as manager?

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:39 pm

Why can’t people wrap their head around the fact that Southgate wants his CH to play a certain way. He picks players that play that way at club level. He doesn’t want to play a defender who has his RB and 2 CMs within 10 yards of him 95% of the game. Different CH play a different way. Whys that so hard to understand? If we wanted a target man and bought Brewster to do it, everyone would understand that doesn’t work. So why is it people can’t fathom CH are not all the same?

That pretty much sums it up.

Wish the headline had read Chimpanzee replaces Southgate.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:18 pm

It's drivel though because Tarky can play football. Southgate has seen him enough. You still have to be able to defend anyway.

Fair enough that Coady gets called up, but some of the ones already picked are the real head scratchers.

i'm not defending it, but the fact is Southgate is looking at a different kind of defender.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:55 pm

Wish the headline had read Chimpanzee replaces Southgate.

No the headline is Southgate replaces Chimpanzee

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:36 pm

Since Guardiola took charge they haven't got past the quarter finals in the CL.

But they've gone out to Monaco, Spurs, Liverpool and Lyon in that time, three of which they've also beaten since Guardiola took over.

They also have wins against Barca, Napoli and Real in that time, so I don't think you can say they struggle against the best teams in Europe.

Said Chimpanzee picks Tarkowski & Mee

claretgoss wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:34 pm

Who have they struggled against?

Lyon, Spurs, Liverpool, Monaco are the teams who've knocked City out in the Champs league Q/Finals.

They've won 2 out of those 7 games, scored 12 and conceded 18.

For whatever reason it is they freeze in the QF's.
They've got experienced players, some of the best in the world and one of the best managers in the world but he just can't seem to get the job done.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:40 pm

How many league titles have you won as manager?

I’ve won as many as Southgate.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:05 pm

Said Chimpanzee picks Tarkowski & Mee

Anyone who even suggests Mee for England needs to watch that *disallowed Bournemouth goal on break last season. The way Wilson pit him on his arse and had him crawling was hilarious.

*Only disallowed after a VAR check, play very much live when this happened.

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:06 pm

I’ve won as many as Southgate.

Fantastic

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:39 pm

Why can’t people wrap their head around the fact that Southgate wants his CH to play a certain way. He picks players that play that way at club level. He doesn’t want to play a defender who has his RB and 2 CMs within 10 yards of him 95% of the game. Different CH play a different way. Whys that so hard to understand? If we wanted a target man and bought Brewster to do it, everyone would understand that doesn’t work. So why is it people can’t fathom CH are not all the same?

I've no idea what you're going on about.

We are wondering why he hasn't picked Tarky, not the whole Burnley back 4. At least half of the centre backs picked play in a back 4 anyway.

Tarky is such a different centre back to Keane, Coady, Mings and Dier? Drivel.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:10 pm

Anyone who even suggests Mee for England needs to watch that *disallowed Bournemouth goal on break last season. The way Wilson pit him on his arse and had him crawling was hilarious.

*Only disallowed after a VAR check, play very much live when this happened.

No one said the Chimp had brains....

If england play the way southgate wants england to play in the euros we certainly won’t win it. Southgate wants to play a way that beats the minnows in qualifiers but playing that way against the good sides with the players he has selected is going to end in coming home early. Again.

Southgate is a gawky bucktoothed rent boy, and little more than a nodding dog for a third rate FA.

With his wobbly adams apple and manic wonky grin he looks for all the world like a product of incest from the Munster family.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:10 pm

Anyone who even suggests Mee for England needs to watch that *disallowed Bournemouth goal on break last season. The way Wilson pit him on his arse and had him crawling was hilarious.

*Only disallowed after a VAR check, play very much live when this happened.

Shut up, you b@stards fan.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:11 pm

I've no idea what you're going on about.

We are wondering why he hasn't picked Tarky, not the whole Burnley back 4. At least half of the centre backs picked play in a back 4 anyway.

Tarky is such a different centre back to Keane, Coady, Mings and Dier? Drivel.

Not all CH are the same though are they? Like strikers. If southgate needed a target man to play one up top he won’t pick Ings.

If he wants a ball playing CH who plays in a pretty open team in the PL then why would he pick Tark? It’s not like he hasn’t picked him in the past anyway. He’s obviously seen enough of him on the training pitch to know he’s not up to it. Pointless wettkng yourself over it, is it?

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:14 pm

Shut up, you b@stards fan.

Ohh you’re hard. Donut.

Bertiebeehead wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:09 pm

Has Dyche bummed Southgates wife?

Simple answer no.......it was Pickford!