England vs Pakistan 3rd T20

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:55 pm

From a gloriously sunny, saviour of cricket, Old Trafford.

England win the toss and bowl. Groundsman has produced a really long boundary for those slogging Adildo to get caught.

Game on.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:04 pm

Beat me to it dc

England unchanged, but there might be plenty of musical chairs come the Australia series.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 pm

Moeen strikes... 2-1 in the 2nd over. Zaman gone.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:09 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 pm
Moeen strikes... 2-1 in the 2nd over. Zaman gone.

I'll eat my words, let's hope that gives Moeen some belief back, terrific start for England.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:20 pm

Babar Azam gone.... 32/2

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:20 pm

Might need to bring Adil in to let Pakistan get some runs

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:50 pm

Anywhere on the cut strip will do.....

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:52 pm

More pies please....

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:08 pm

Rashid.... 3-0-40-0.. bresnanesque

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:09 pm

Looks like the batsman will have to dig England out of a hole again, this Haider is some find a 28 ball 50 on debut.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:13 pm

Wicket..... Jordan with a great ball. 132-3 off 14.3

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:23 pm

Dreadful bowling again. Tom Curran and the lad Gregory wouldnt pay them in washers

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:29 pm

England bowl short Pakistan hit it long, you'd think they'd have learnt from the other day, but apparently not. Whatever happened to the good old-fashioned yorker.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:37 pm

Wicket for Jordan, 177-4 with 8 deliveries left.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:37 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:29 pm
England bowl short Pakistan hit it long, you'd think they'd have learnt from the other day, but apparently not. Whatever happened to the good old-fashioned yorker.

The scoop

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:38 pm

I dare say that England might knock these off, but I've found it really quite frustrating, (bordering on depressing) watching England's second string bowlers in these past two matches.The skill-set and application is way below international standard.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:39 pm

How many runs does Tom Curran owe us if he get a bat?

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:46 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:39 pm
How many runs does Tom Curran owe us if he get a bat?

Moeen Ali due some too. We have some big hitters, we have a chance of getting these.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:46 pm

England chasing 191 to win.

Jordan bowled very well, Mahmood did ok bowling at the toughest times, Curran and Gregory were poor, and Rashid was shocking.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm

190-4 it's an improvement on Sunday. I do still think we'll knock them off, but there will come a time when England won't recover from a mauling in the field, this attack can't play against the Aussies, the likes of Finch, Smith & Warner will cream them to all parts.

Richardsbfc · Post by **Richardsbfc** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm

The difference in quality between our current test players and the 20/20 players is ridiculous.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:46 pm
England chasing 191 to win.

Jordan bowled very well, Rashid did ok bowling at the toughest times, Curran and Gregory were poor, and Rashid was shocking.

Interesting that Rashid could be both ok and shocking! I'm confused.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:54 pm

Richardsbfc wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:50 pm
The difference in quality between our current test players and the 20/20 players is ridiculous.

Not really. England's white ball team are world champions, and they form the majority of this team, plenty of key players not available at present. Good learning curve for some of these lads, and it's not really a bowlers game at Old Trafford too often in T20.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:55 pm

Lads - you're hammering them again at half time. It's a batters game, a batter's wicket. Bowlers will go for plenty of runs. They weren't great some of them, but they're not the write offs you're making them out to be - especially with no cricket behind them.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Thanks for coming Yorkshire, one of you gets smashed for 40 off 3 overs, the other is out for a duck.

HYPE MACHINE

TINPOT

Richardsbfc · Post by **Richardsbfc** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:59 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Not really. England's white ball team are world champions, and they form the majority of this team, plenty of key players not available at present. Good learning curve for some of these lads, and it's not really a bowlers game at Old Trafford too often in T20.

I may be wrong but there's is only 3 of the World Champions playing 20/20 at the moment isnt they? Morgan, Ali, Bairstow

The rest of the WC are in the test side.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Morgan, Ali, Bairstow, Rashid - 4 of them, but that only further invalidates the point doesn't it? Add Woakes, Buttler, Stokes, Roy, Root, Archer to this team, to turn it into the 20:20 team, and it looks a lot better.

Richardsbfc · Post by **Richardsbfc** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:04 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:01 pm
Morgan, Ali, Bairstow, Rashid - 4 of them, but that only further invalidates the point doesn't it? Add Woakes, Buttler, Stokes, Roy, Root, Archer to this team, to turn it into the 20:20 team, and it looks a lot better.

Thats my point - probably not spelt out clearly to be fair.

That group of players you mention are significantly better than the ones current playing 20/20 that they would replace.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:05 pm

Is that Lionel Messi playing the drums?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Richardsbfc wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:59 pm
I may be wrong but there's is only 3 of the World Champions playing 20/20 at the moment isnt they? Morgan, Ali, Bairstow

The rest of the WC are in the test side.

That's why some of us have described it as a very poor "second-string" attack. They're just not bowling well enough for any level.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 pm

For any level? Perspective needed I think.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:17 pm

Malan gone cheaply the plastic Yorkie as much use as the rest of them.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:19 pm

Oh yeah - forgot that he was a Yorkie too.

Yorkshire finish the night on -33 from 3 players.... great contribution lads.... thanks for coming.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Young Banton is impressing again, he's been the real plus this summer, Jason Roy might struggle to regain his place, hard as that is to believe.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 pm

Morgan gone, run out. 191 looks a long way out now.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:34 pm

Stupid run out they were going along nicely.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:34 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:19 pm
Oh yeah - forgot that he was a Yorkie too.

Yorkshire finish the night on -33 from 3 players.... great contribution lads.... thanks for coming.

Rashid may have to bat yet. He could turn it around with a match winning 50.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:38 pm

Banton gone 46, England really needed him to go big, Pakistan strong favs now.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:07 pm

Billings gone 26 ends a good partnership with Moeen, 65 off 34 needed not impossible but difficult with a new batsman.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 pm
For any level? Perspective needed I think.

Maybe not any level, but at any reasonable level of county cricket and even in the local leagues, you'd be very disappointed to see bowlers serving up so many long hops, misdirected slower bowls, and all the other dross that we've seen in the past two games.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 pm

What an over from Ali !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:14 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 pm
What an over from Ali !

Absolutely another one like that and England are well in the contest. Where's this Moeen been all summer.?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:24 pm

Gregory out 170-6, 21 off 13, looks like it's down to Moeen.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:26 pm

19 from 11 - Jordan gone, 3 wickets remaining. Tom Curran and Moeen Ali currently batting.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:27 pm

Hard task this now. Rauf seems quite adept at putting it in the block hole when he wants to

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:29 pm

Need to get Moeen on strike. One big shot could make a difference.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:30 pm

Mo gone that could be that. 17 off 7

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:31 pm

Moen out game over!!!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:37 pm

Close but not close enough

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:37 pm

Pakistan win by 5 runs. Good game, scores look about par.