Tark - transfer

[Aclaret]

The other bit of info I got would send this board and our fan base into meltdown so will keep that away - I don’t know how legit that is though so keeping that quiet for now

Aww come on BFC, you know this board loves a good old meltdown.

[bfccrazy]

Aww come on BFC, you know this board loves a good old meltdown.

Could be nothing but one of our players is telling his cleaners etc to stop popping round as he’s moving out soon.

Don’t know if that’s away somewhere else or still “local”

[ClaretTony]

He was Sean Dyches man ....

And he spoke about coming back last week in an interview

[Whitgord]

Ooh you tease you bfcc.

[bfccrazy]

And he spoke about coming back last week in an interview

Aye, but moving forward behind the scenes apparently.

[Aclaret]

And he spoke about coming back last week in an interview

Coaching role or playing ?
Surely could only offer a pay as you play role if he intends to carry on playing.

[ClaretTony]

Aye, but moving forward behind the scenes apparently.

Only about his badges though - not even considered fit enough to play Belgian football now unfortunately

[bfccrazy]

Only about his badges though - not even considered fit enough to play Belgian football now unfortunately

That’s good and bad news. I think adding him onto the books on a minimal wage whilst getting his badges could be a good move even if he can pop up to lift the crowd for the last 10/15 mins if needed.

[ClaretTony]

That’s good and bad news. I think adding him onto the books on a minimal wage whilst getting his badges could be a good move even if he can pop up to lift the crowd for the last 10/15 mins if needed.

Given he’s suffered more injuries since he left, and given how far away he was the last time he played, I would hope not.

He’s not been fit now in over two years. I’d love to see the Defour back who played August 2017 to January 2018 but that’s not going to happen. Don’t think he’s ever been a player either to influence a game as a sub.

[MDWat]

If we sign Defour back, we’ve completely lost the plot (and I loved him more than anyone). As CT says, he’s been injured for about 2 years.

[bfccrazy]

Given he’s suffered more injuries since he left, and given how far away he was the last time he played, I would hope not.

He’s not been fit now in over two years. I’d love to see the Defour back who played August 2017 to January 2018 but that’s not going to happen. Don’t think he’s ever been a player either to influence a game as a sub.

Fair points, surely it’d be better to have him on the bench though instead of a 17 year old who has no chance of coming on.

[BurnleyFC]

If we sign Defour back, we’ve completely lost the plot (and I loved him more than anyone). As CT says, he’s been injured for about 2 years.

If we’re relying on Defour from a playing perspective, then our whole scouting network should be sent to the job centre.

[ashtonlongsider]

Don't normally like commenting on transfer activity. However if the story comes via John Percy it's usually got 'legs'. It wouldn't surprise me if Tarks went but I'd be very surprised if it's to East London.

[ClaretTony]

Fair points, surely it’d be better to have him on the bench though instead of a 17 year old who has no chance of coming on.

No. Because he’s not fit to play.

[NewClaret]

Don't normally like commenting on transfer activity. However if the story comes via John Percy it's usually got 'legs'. It wouldn't surprise me if Tarks went but I'd be very surprised if it's to East London.

Bidding war incoming, sadly.

[agreenwood]

Two things.

Losing key players before we’ve even plugged any of the serious gaps in the squad would be horrendous.

Tarkowski is the only senior centre half we have who looks likely to be fit for the early games of the season.

In short, losing him would be a disaster.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I’ll be worried if he doesn’t play tomorrow.

[burnleymik]

20 Mill? Surely that doesn't buy one of Tarky's legs! Consider the value of Maguire and Tarky is a far better player all round. The add must have been huge.

[NewClaret]

Two things.

Losing key players before we’ve even plugged any of the serious gaps in the squad would be horrendous.

Tarkowski is the only senior centre half we have who looks likely to be fit for the early games of the season.

In short, losing him would be a disaster.

This transfer window is becoming a joke.

Only serious speculation for weeks has been around Gibson. We’ve lost 3 players in an arguably understrength squad and clearly have no replacements lined up. Our only link is a Championship centre back & now our best centre back is subject to a bid from a direct rival/club below us.

[TsarBomba]

Would we let Gibson leave knowing that there’s a chance Tarks is off too?

Or was the Gibson situation so far down the road that he was getting moved on regardless?

[joey13]

Tarks and Pope leave ,we get relegated simple as that ,and why would they want to stay when their manager made it clear he didn’t want to

[bfccrazy]

Tarks and Pope leave ,we get relegated simple as that ,and why would they want to stay when their manager made it clear he didn’t want to

Was apparently Pope who told some of his “staff” that he’s moving. Not sure how true it is though or if he is moving to a different house in same area.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Was apparently Pope who told some of his “staff” that he’s moving. Not sure how true it is though or if he is moving to a different house in same area.

You have a lot of inside info! Nick Pope and his bloody ‘staff’!

[bfccrazy]

You have a lot of inside info! Nick Pope and his bloody ‘staff’!

I just guess a lot mate apparently

Guess correctly quite a bit, but it’s all just guesses......... honestly

[bfccrazy]

Maybe not then, my lad is older - and doesn’t play anymore

Fulledge, Turf Tigers/Belvedere and Barrowford he’s played for over the years.

[Zlatan]

Fulledge, Turf Tigers/Belvedere and Barrowford he’s played for over the years.

Brierfield Celtic and Barrowford for my lad, he’s 20 now though, and it was 10 years back

[jurek]

Apparently West HAm have tabled a bid of 20m + add ons for Tarks.
I think we've turned it down but they may come back with another offer?

https://sportslens.com/report-west-ham- ... ki/311751/

As others have said we can't afford to lose .
Even if the offer was up to 40m.

[superdimitri]

Apparently West HAm have tabled a bid of 20m + add ons for Tarks.
I think we've turned it down but they may come back with another offer?

https://sportslens.com/report-west-ham- ... ki/311751/

As others have said we can't afford to lose .
Even if the offer was up to 40m.

Already posted in this thread:

West Ham taking the pi$$ with a 20m bid rejected.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 1423267840

[MACCA]

Alfie Mawson is linked with Bristol city
We were after him 2 years ago, cheap and has some PL experience.
Certainly an age where he can develope

[Paul Waine]

Was reading an article just last month about Gray, and how we got a great deal selling him to Watford.

Burnley got tremendous value from Andre Gray and made a huge profit on selling him

Burnley signed Gray for what was then a club record £9m from Brentford back in 2015 (as per BBC), a move which worked wonders for him and the Clarets. They more than doubled their money on him with the sale to Watford, for whom he has scored just 16 times in 94 appearances – less than half of his 33-goal tally at Turf Moor inside 78 games at the Lancashire club.

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/ ... fit-value/

Whoever wrote that report missed all the stuff put into the public domain by Luton. They were the club that sold Gray to Brentford. Luton reported both their cut of the transfer fee that Brentford received when Gray moved to Burnley and their share of the transfer fee received by Burnley when Gray moved to Watford. So, the "tremendous value" and "huge profit" was I think 25% lower than claimed.

Still decent business.

[LoveCurryPies]

Why would Tarkowski want to join West Ham?

If the club sell him for £20m they are crazy.

[COBBLE]

The club will sell him if the income covers a replacement and generates a surplus to balance the books. Tarks may have moved to the point where he has reached max value. He should be sold. That's the only business model that works for BFC if we want to remain effectively a community club. In this case it should be easy to slot a replacement in to our defensive model.

Alternative we sell the club to investors.

Same with Pope and Dwight.

Life doesn't stop moving on.

[CFS]

But we have a month left in the window everyone says........

[CFS]

Was apparently Pope who told some of his “staff” that he’s moving. Not sure how true it is though or if he is moving to a different house in same area.

It's ok according to some because we've got northern Ireland's no.1 ready to break PL records.

[ecc]

£20 million is a bloody huge insult.

[Vegas Claret]

£20 million is a bloody huge insult.

it's the exact same thing that we do when bidding for players.

[Chester Perry]

£20 million is a bloody huge insult.

It goes back to the repeated misunderstanding of what Garlick said in April, which is still widely shared by Burnley fans never mind anyone else. People think we are broke, we are most definitely not broke.

Garlick's nightmare scenario was based on no more football through to now and no sign of when football would start again from now, it was forged on the understanding of what our contractual/obligated outgoings were in that timeframe and where our financial situation would be if no monies were coming in because on no football being played and no sign of it being played in the near future - that has very clearly not happened. It also quite clearly indicated that we had £50m in cash at the point of lockdown.

If the reports are to be believed that the Premier League are to pay in full last season's distribution then we have just come off the back of a season were we likely recorded record revenues, due to increased TV monies - if that is the case then the season itself will likely have generated a profit and a cash uplift - the news of the PPTV deal may change that.

Many will read this and think we have money to spend, we will have some, but our board will be looking down the track at reduced TV monies over multiple seasons whether in the Premier League or on Parachute payments (a result of rebates etc), likely challenges on the commercial front with probable reductions in a number of areas, and minimal income from matchday - our traditional compact ground is not well equipped for social distancing.

The board will oversee the necessary adjustments to ensure our club withstands the financial hazards of the coming seasons and seek to keep us free from debt and in robust health. Unfortunately the reward for being the only club in the country not needing to ask the owners or lenders for money during this crisis is continued prudence and of course the existence of our treasured club

[Woodleyclaret]

BPF mom for Northern Ireland last night v Romania, with string of superb saves
Clearly a keeper on the up.
I dont understand while some feel because hes our player he cant be very good.

[Vegas Claret]

BPF mom for Northern Ireland last night v Romania, with string of superb saves
Clearly a keeper on the up.
I dont understand while some feel because hes our player he cant be very good.

some of us are still haunted by Joe Neenan and Mark Kendall, we need time

[BenWickes]

Even if West Ham met the release clause. Tarkowski would be mad to go to West Ham. Car crash of a club on and off the pitch. He'd not be enhancing his chances of an England call up in a team who regularly bobs along towards the bottom end of the table and just don't seem capable of building a team capable of any consistency. They've long been a group of individuals on the field as opposed to a 'team' with no real identity, cohesion or solid plan. He'll have been poorly advised or just plain blinkered if he chose to go there. More chance of a Europa League spot with us than them.

[scouseclaret]

Was apparently Pope who told some of his “staff” that he’s moving. Not sure how true it is though or if he is moving to a different house in same area.

With BPF looking decent, Norris just signed and Jensen in reserve, if we are going to sell one of the Crown Jewels it would make far more sense for it to be Pope than Tarkowski.

[BenWickes]

It's ok according to some because we've got northern Ireland's no.1 ready to break PL records.

Yet another MOM performance last night. You'd do well to remember Heaton and Pope both joined us from clubs relegated from the Championship and both went on to play for England.

[JohnDearyMe]

Even if West Ham met the release clause. Tarkowski would be mad to go to West Ham. Car crash of a club on and off the pitch. He'd not be enhancing his chances of an England call up in a team who regularly bobs along towards the bottom end of the table and just don't seem capable of building a team capable of any consistency. They've long been a group of individuals on the field as opposed to a 'team' with no real identity, cohesion or solid plan. He'll have been poorly advised or just plain blinkered if he chose to go there. More chance of a Europa League spot with us than them.

Not quite sure of the backstory to it but Mark Noble has just publicly criticised the club for selling a young player to West Brom. As you say they are a club in turmoil

[FeedTheArf]

Not quite sure of the backstory to it but Mark Noble has just publicly criticised the club for selling a young player to West Brom. As you say they are a club in turmoil

And more than that, it wouldn’t surprise me if this low ball Tarky bid was just to distract from them selling one of their upcoming stars. A “show of ambition” to demonstrate they are trying to bring players in when realistically there’s no way that it’ll be accepted.

[Woodleyclaret]

Tarks moved North to be nearer to family
Why join one of the relegation candidates which is further away than his previous club
Brentford
£50m minimum price and we needs a hands off statement from Mike on Monday to reiterate hes not for sale.

[Firthy]

Still not convinced the bid was actually made especially with it being common knowledge about Tarks £50m release clause. Anyway why would he want to join a struggling club who almost got relegated and lost twice to us last season.

[wilks_bfc]

Still not convinced the bid was actually made especially with it being common knowledge about Tarks £50m release clause. Anyway why would he want to join a struggling club who almost got relegated and lost twice to us last season.

I think the £50m release was only for any north west clubs making an offer

[bobinho]

it's the exact same thing that we do when bidding for players.

Exactly. And if we value outgoing players using the same formula as for our targets, then that figure would be damn close to getting accepted.

[bobinho]

Still not convinced the bid was actually made especially with it being common knowledge about Tarks £50m release clause. Anyway why would he want to join a struggling club who almost got relegated and lost twice to us last season.

Because despite the fact we were better than them last season, they are by far a bigger club with a better chance of long term PL success than us.

[Zlatan]

Because despite the fact we were better than them last season, they are by far a bigger club with a better chance of long term PL success than us.

Not that old chestnut...

Oh I forget West Ham won the World Cup...