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So the club who got £85m for Harry Maguire have made a bid of £20-15m BELOW our asking price. Good one.
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I think this bid will be rejected and they'll need to do better.
The problem is, the nearer we get to the transfer window cutoff the more likely we'll be caught with out underpants around our ankles. As well as Long and Dunne have played, they need to be backups for us, not first team starters.
The problem is, the nearer we get to the transfer window cutoff the more likely we'll be caught with out underpants around our ankles. As well as Long and Dunne have played, they need to be backups for us, not first team starters.
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They need to be 4th and 5th choice if we are serious about wanting to stay up.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:24 pmI think this bid will be rejected and they'll need to do better.
The problem is, the nearer we get to the transfer window cutoff the more likely we'll be caught with out underpants around our ankles. As well as Long and Dunne have played, they need to be backups for us, not first team starters.
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I guess it depends on their potential. The conveyor belt does need someone 3rd choice who can then come in, when a first choice is sold. So that would mean signing 2 central defenders once Tarky leaves - I cannot see that happening.summitclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:26 pmThey need to be 4th and 5th choice if we are serious about wanting to stay up.
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Definitely not worth selling at £30m , £40m or do one I would say
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Just £40 million. I’d be gutted if he went for less than that fee!
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David Moyes: What's your asking price for James Tarkoswki?"
Garlick: "It's 50m''
David Moyes: "I'll give you 27m"
Garlick: "No, it's 50m"
David Moyes:"I'll give you 28m"
Garlick: "No, it's 50m"
David Moyes: "Well what about 30m then?"
Garlick: "No, honestly, it's 50m"
Brendan Rodgers: "Well can we have him for 30m then?"
Garlick: "It's 50m''
David Moyes: "I'll give you 27m"
Garlick: "No, it's 50m"
David Moyes:"I'll give you 28m"
Garlick: "No, it's 50m"
David Moyes: "Well what about 30m then?"
Garlick: "No, honestly, it's 50m"
Brendan Rodgers: "Well can we have him for 30m then?"
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To be fair, if ever there was a club that took the **** at low ball offers we’d be top of the list.
If will go at some point, I’d imagine £35 with add ons
If will go at some point, I’d imagine £35 with add ons
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As Tarkowski has already agreed that £50m is the price at which he will be allowed to leave, then I suggest we stick to that agreement. Remember when he left Brentford it was because they didn't stick to what he says they had agreed. This is different. Tarkowski agreed a release clause but if Burnley are feeling generous, they may extend it in Tarkowski's favour by letting him go to Leicester.
But they would need to bid £50m quickly or it will be too late.
But they would need to bid £50m quickly or it will be too late.
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I just hope the add on is another £5 million.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:44 pmTo be fair, if ever there was a club that took the **** at low ball offers we’d be top of the list.
If will go at some point, I’d imagine £35 with add ons
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No clause with Leicester, just with the big North West clubs should they wish to sign him.dsr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:44 pmAs Tarkowski has already agreed that £50m is the price at which he will be allowed to leave, then I suggest we stick to that agreement. Remember when he left Brentford it was because they didn't stick to what he says they had agreed. This is different. Tarkowski agreed a release clause but if Burnley are feeling generous, they may extend it in Tarkowski's favour by letting him go to Leicester.
But they would need to bid £50m quickly or it will be too late.
I was never really worried about West Ham being interested, Leicester could be a different story altogether.
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I’d hope so, I’d be amazed if we got anymore than 35m but it would certainly put him in the England picture and I’d imagine add one will be dependant on him making the England squad for the euros and nonsense like that
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ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:46 pmNo clause with Leicester, just with the big North West clubs should they wish to sign him.
I was never really worried about West Ham being interested, Leicester could be a different story altogether.
Think Leicester was always the 1 that could appeal most to him, also make sense if he was to go there as part of the fee a player is included bringing down the fee which brings down the sell on fee.
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If he signed for United he would be in the England squad in a matter of days.
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Very much so. Someone like Albrighton plus £35 million. Question is. Can we find a replacement Centre Half? As I think if Tarks goes, we need two centre halves then. One first team and one back up.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:48 pmThink Leicester was always the 1 that could appeal most to him, also make sense if he was to go there as part of the fee a player is included bringing down the fee which brings down the sell on fee.
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It's a strange clause is that one. Why restrict it to just a few clubs?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:46 pmNo clause with Leicester, just with the big North West clubs should they wish to sign him.
I was never really worried about West Ham being interested, Leicester could be a different story altogether.
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No it doesn't. A value is assigned to the part-ex player, like it was with the Wells-Brownhill move - or would have been if they had been officially linked. If we'd tried claiming that Wells was free and Brownhill was £5m, Brownhill's previous club would have cried foul and won. The valuation has to be reasonable.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:48 pmThink Leicester was always the 1 that could appeal most to him, also make sense if he was to go there as part of the fee a player is included bringing down the fee which brings down the sell on fee.
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A big reason he came to us in the first place was to be closer to his family who I think live somewhere around the Manchester area, so I'm guessing he wants to remain close.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:56 pmIt's a strange clause is that one. Why restrict it to just a few clubs?
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I'd guess because he has aspirations of playing in the Champions League but wants to stay in the NW locality. There's only three clubs in the NW really with a hope in hell's chance of that. City, Liverpool and United.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:56 pmIt's a strange clause is that one. Why restrict it to just a few clubs?
Not convinced Leicester will be either but they'd be closer to the NW than moving down south.
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BenWickes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:05 pmI'd guess because he has aspirations of playing in the Champions League but wants to stay in the NW locality. There's only three clubs in the NW really with a hope in hell's chance of that. City, Liverpool and United.
Not convinced Leicester will be either but they'd be closer to the NW than moving down south.
He might want to stay local but the club could have put all clubs in the wording for our benefit?Flying Without Ings wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:03 pmA big reason he came to us in the first place was to be closer to his family who I think live somewhere around the Manchester area, so I'm guessing he wants to remain close.
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At age 28 (next month), not much chance of him going for more than what we hold out for.
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Probably captainsummitclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:49 pmIf he signed for United he would be in the England squad in a matter of days.
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Tarkowski and agent may have requested that as a condition to signing a new contract.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:09 pmHe might want to stay local but the club could have put all clubs in the wording for our benefit?
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Amazes me how low some of our own fans value JT.
He was second only to VVD in the defensive stats last year. We nearly had most clean sheets. Arguably playing for a team like us that puts him as the best in the league.
Leicester got £80m for Maguire (who Tarky was better than last season). Southampton got £70m for VVD. Relegated Bournemouth got £40m for Ake who wasn’t even on the same planet at JT last year. Yet we want to sell him for £5m less than a relegated club secured for their CB. Wtf?
£50m or do one.
Personally hope he goes to either United or Liverpool in a players + cash deal, if he’s leaving at all.
He was second only to VVD in the defensive stats last year. We nearly had most clean sheets. Arguably playing for a team like us that puts him as the best in the league.
Leicester got £80m for Maguire (who Tarky was better than last season). Southampton got £70m for VVD. Relegated Bournemouth got £40m for Ake who wasn’t even on the same planet at JT last year. Yet we want to sell him for £5m less than a relegated club secured for their CB. Wtf?
£50m or do one.
Personally hope he goes to either United or Liverpool in a players + cash deal, if he’s leaving at all.
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Tarkowski is underrated by our fans. Some people put him on the same pedestal as Ben Mee but Tarks is a vastly better player than Mee.
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That was because of his desire to remain in the NW I would imagineQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:56 pmIt's a strange clause is that one. Why restrict it to just a few clubs?
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With the ridiculously high sell on percentage (27.5%), we really need to make it a cash plus player deal, like wells and Brownhill.
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It's nothing to do with how low we value him. It's a simple fact that his contract stipulates the clause is only for three local clubs.
Something he will have had inserted in that contract in order for him to sign it.
However! It doesn't mean we have to listen to offers or sell him in this instance. We can theoretically still ask for £50 million, but I think we'd take £35 million with another player.
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That won’t make a difference, both players in any such deal will have a value.claretandy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:25 pmWith the ridiculously high sell on percentage (27.5%), we really need to make it a cash plus player deal, like wells and Brownhill.
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If he wants to go to leicester get as much as we can for him and invest in the 1st eleven ...every team loses their best players from time to time
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Should Leicester be successful, there is only one player that we should go for if they include one in the deal-that's Albrighton. They have just signed a Turkish winger which may make that a shade more possible now. Have seen Albrighton play numerous times as they are my closest club. Very high work rate and a brilliant crosser, but more importantly a right sided wide player. Forget Choudhury who is tenacious but a red card waiting to happen, and Gray does not have the work rate for Burnley. Would mean we could drop the interest in Wilson and use that money and any of the Tarks fee for a serious CH
Can see this developing-they are really short of defenders-Indidi a make-shits CH now out for 12 weeks and Evans injured too.Their bid for the young St Etienne CH is stagnating. It would be a good signing for LCFC. When all fit I see Rogers, who is a fan of 3 at the back playing Tarks/Evans /Sonchu
A frightening prospect for us with just over 7 days in the window
Can see this developing-they are really short of defenders-Indidi a make-shits CH now out for 12 weeks and Evans injured too.Their bid for the young St Etienne CH is stagnating. It would be a good signing for LCFC. When all fit I see Rogers, who is a fan of 3 at the back playing Tarks/Evans /Sonchu
A frightening prospect for us with just over 7 days in the window
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It goes to a tribunal for an Independent valuation, which is likely to be below silly season prices, hence it could still benefit us.
Taking something like £25m plus Demarai Gray, for example, would see Gray probably valued at about £10m, far less than if we approached them for him.
EDIT - I note the above comment about Albrighton, I can see that logic, the advantage there is he is older so would be valued lower but would still tide us over for 2-3 years. Logically though, due to no resale value, that approach would mean we would expect more for Tarky, probably £35m.
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Ndidi, who has been playing Centre Half for them, out injured for 12 weeks according to the BBC
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Rodgers has confirmed they will not be making another signing to replace Ndidi - but he's a midfielder in any case.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:46 pmNdidi, who has been playing Centre Half for them, out injured for 12 weeks according to the BBC
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I think you need to have a word with your spell checker!!!warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:38 pmCan see this developing-they are really short of defenders-Indidi a make- CH now out for 12 weeks and Evans injured too.Their bid for the young St Etienne CH is stagnating. It would be a good signing for LCFC. When all fit I see Rogers, who is a fan of 3 at the back playing Tarks/Evans /Sonchu
A frightening prospect for us with just over 7 days in the window
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And if they had taken the michael with the valuations, the FA (or someone) would have got involved. Multi-million pound scams aren't as easy as that to fiddle.claretandy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:53 pmOf course it will, we did the same with Brownhill and Wells, in the opposite way though.
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I think if they offer 40 he'll be gone. Wouldn't say no to Albrighton coming here, he's definitely suited to the way we play.
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Said all along we’ve been interested in Jones, cash plus player would be a good deal all round.summitclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:49 pmIf he signed for United he would be in the England squad in a matter of days.
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Depends on what the contract entails but I am sure that could be worked out if so. Question is. Are Man Utd interested?!Danieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:00 pmSaid all along we’ve been interested in Jones, cash plus player would be a good deal all round.
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Not so sure. Depends on size of club and how much money is in a brown envelope under a table. There's some serious dodgy goings on at West Ham and Wolves but they just let it slide.
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One at my work yesterday saying how he couldn’t understand all the fuss. Slower than a week in jail and the turning circle of a supertanker was his description. They are out there CT, and I’m sure there are a few on here...
I worry that we’d let him go cheaply.... anything less than £40m would be us having our pants pulled down imho, but I do see that happening. Hope I’m wrong.
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Best Burnley Ch for a long long time. Big sell on fee to Brentford so even at 50 mill he would be cheap and irreplaceable with the net funds we would receive
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Come on United - come get him for £50m or £40m + Dan James and Diogo Dalot.
Would much rather be went to United if they were interested
Would much rather be went to United if they were interested
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Reports from good sources that the latest bid from Leicester has been rejected.
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I wonder how SD feels about having to lie to the fans about all the sore toe malarkey
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£50M or £40M+ Demari Gray and Choudary
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The market for players isn't what it was in this post-COVID world. Unfortunately £40m is last years' £80m so it's pointless comparing to VVD and Maguire.
He's been great for us, but we'll replace him as we always do when we lose players. Hopefully we can squeeze as much out of them as possible
He's been great for us, but we'll replace him as we always do when we lose players. Hopefully we can squeeze as much out of them as possible