Birmingham

[evensteadiereddie]

There's a retired chief super that guests regularly on Talkradio.

30 years in London he did. He knows what he's on about.

He says, increasingly, the top coppers have never walked the streets. More concerned about " community cohesion" and " cultural sensitivities" than banging , repetitive, wrong 'uns up . Should've heard what he had to to say about Cressida Dick, throwing her men , "under the bus"

Worryingly, its not unique to the police and is systematic throughout many , many aspects of public life. Fortunately, the masses are awakening to it. If the tories are seen as incapable of turning things around. Then I believe that the , until now, silent majority, will vote in a way ensures , one way or another , it does......

That last bit sounds sinister.............you were doing very well until then.

[Spijed]

Fortunately, the masses are awakening to it. If the tories are seen as incapable of turning things around. Then I believe that the , until now, silent majority, will vote in a way ensures , one way or another , it does......

So you think people should be allowed to act like a vigilante, shooting people at random, like we've seen with the 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse?

[RingoMcCartney]

So you think people should be allowed to act like a vigilante, shooting people at random, like we've seen with the 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse?

Where did I mention "vigilantism" !?

I said ,

"Then I believe that the , until now, silent majority, will vote in a way ensures , one way or another , it does......"

[Jakubclaret]

You'd be very high on my list of people I wouldn't trust to make decisions.

That's your opinion which you are entitled to, that's the difference between me & you I'm in favour of the public deciding things I've got confidence in the general public & think people are more than capable of making sound decisions & judgements regarding suitable punishments for offenders, everyday normally people decide on issues far more complicated than punishments for people offending & more often than not make correct decisions.

[TheFamilyCat]

That's your opinion which you are entitled to, that's the difference between me & you I'm in favour of the public deciding things I've got confidence in the general public & think people are more than capable of making sound decisions & judgements regarding suitable punishments for offenders, everyday normally people decide on issues far more complicated than punishments for people offending & more often than not make correct decisions.

Yes, that's probably because they are qualified to do so.

[Jenny55]

I think my point is pretty clear, and I think you know it. If upon seeing this news your first thought is I bet the perpetrator is (insert race), then you’re a racist.

It is so easy for you to say that isnt it? Initially when these stabbings happened in the early hours the media thought it may have been a gang related incident. Shortly afterwards when it was established that it was a lone attacker that stabbed multiple people, I too thought about the ethnicity of the attacker. Does that make me a racist? The reason I thought this was that most if not all recent multiple stabbing attacks have been carried out by non whites. If you want to label me a racist too then go ahead.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes, that's probably because they are qualified to do so.

& exactly where do we find ourselves eh? People in & out of prison & constantly reoffending, yeh I can see that makes a lot of sense.

[Erasmus]

Well who are they going to vote for if it's not the Tories? Surely you can't think people are going to vote for BNP in any numbers? Or any other of those rag-tag outfits?

It always strikes me as odd in that we must have some BNP supporters who post on these threads, but no one will ever admit it, almost as if they were ashamed to.

[evensteadiereddie]

Fair point.

[TVC15]

The reason I thought this was that most if not all recent multiple stabbing attacks have been carried out by non whites. If you want to label me a racist too then go ahead.

Is it most or all ?
Do you want to post a link for this which evidences what you are saying as fact.
Because if you can’t evidence that comment then that is your perception and then yes you probably are racist.

[Somethingfishy]

Where did I mention "vigilantism" !?

I said ,

"Then I believe that the , until now, silent majority, will vote in a way ensures , one way or another , it does......"

If not the tories then who?

[Jenny55]

Is it most or all ?
Do you want to post a link for this which evidences what you are saying as fact.
Because if you can’t evidence that comment then that is your perception and then yes you probably are racist.

London, Reading ? I am not racist apart from perhaps in the eyes of you and a few others who call people racist at every opportunity. It is natural for many of us now in the current climate to think of the ethnicity of the perpetrator with horrible attacks like this. After all there have been many similar ones. If this has now made me even more racist in your opinion then so be it.

[Bigbopper]

Is it most or all ?
Do you want to post a link for this which evidences what you are saying as fact.
Because if you can’t evidence that comment then that is your perception and then yes you probably are racist.

Think you may be getting confused between racist and realist.

[RingoMcCartney]

If not the tories then who?

Perhaps a new party. Similar to the Brexit Party. They came from nowhere to win the 2019 EU parliamentary elections. If people believe a party no longer represents them, they'll switch to a party that they feel does. It happened to labour it can just as easy happen to the tories. Old tribal loyalties and the "stimga" of not voting for the same party your parents/grandparents always voted have been expunged.

[Somethingfishy]

Perhaps a new party. Similar to the Brexit Party. They came from nowhere to win the 2019 EU parliamentary elections. If people believe a party no longer represents them, they'll switch to a party that they feel does. It happened to labour it can just as easy happen to the tories. Old tribal loyalties and the "stimga" of not voting for the same party your parents/grandparents always voted have been expunged.

There is a need for a new party but it isn't to the right of the tories. It is in the middle. A party of your average everyday working man...and woman. The ones who don't feel properly represented by anyone anymore.

[TVC15]

London, Reading ? I am not racist apart from perhaps in the eyes of you and a few others who call people racist at every opportunity. It is natural for many of us now in the current climate to think of the ethnicity of the perpetrator with horrible attacks like this. After all there have been many similar ones. If this has now made me even more racist in your opinion then so be it.

Sorry it was you who said that “most if not all”.
I did not say whether that was correct or not - it sounded like a bit of rash statement to make so asked you for a link / evidence.
You obviously either think this to be the case or you have read this somewhere.
If it is something that you perceive and go round on message boards stating that as fact then yes that can be viewed as a form of prejudice.
Why would have an opinion that you are racist ? I don’t know you and this is the first post I have ever seen you make. I believe that sweeping statements like you made do need to be substantiated.

[Jenny55]

Not sure where you get sweeping statement from? I am at work at the moment and don’t have time to trawl through evidence to support what I said. Even if I did you would possibly come back with some other accusation of racism. Listen, are you seriously saying that you didn’t think for a second when you heard of this mass stabbing that it could have been a person who was non white? These attacks with knives are happening all too often and that is not a sweeping statement. The crux of the matter is that carrying a knife should result in custodial sentences regardless of whether it is a white or black man carrying it.

[TVC15]

Think you may be getting confused between racist and realist.

Nope not confused at all.
The original poster said “most if not all”.
If you believe that to be a “realistic” and factual statement to make then should be straightforward for you to evidence this too.

I never said anyone was racist - I said that if this statement could not be proved then yes it could be considered as a prejudice thing to say and would be considered by parts of society as racist because of the assumptions being made.

[TVC15]

Not sure where you get sweeping statement from? I am at work at the moment and don’t have time to trawl through evidence to support what I said. Even if I did you would possibly come back with some other accusation of racism. Listen, are you seriously saying that you didn’t think for a second when you heard of this mass stabbing that it could have been a person who was non white? These attacks with knives are happening all too often and that is not a sweeping statement. The crux of the matter is that carrying a knife should result in custodial sentences regardless of whether it is a white or black man carrying it.

It’s strange that you think it’s unusual that they did not consider the persons colour when hearing the news of the stabbing. It’s not something that entered my mind for a second - why would it ? What does it matter what colour they were ? Why would the only thoughts you have not be related to the horror of the crime, the victims, whether people have died etc ?

Clearly from what you said it’s something that did cross your mind - and from what you are saying it’s already in your mind that they are non white. Which is why you said “most if not all”.

I agree about custodial sentence for carrying a knife - and of course the colour of their skin is completely irrelevant.

[Jenny55]

Good! At least we agree on something.

[HahaYeah]

So you think people should be allowed to act like a vigilante, shooting people at random, like we've seen with the 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse?

I dread to think what wonky fake news you watch but Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself from violent rioters.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I dread to think what wonky fake news you watch but Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself from violent rioters.

Was that after he traveled across state lines to the area of unrest whilst armed with his guns and then returned home?

[HahaYeah]

Was that after he traveled across state lines to the area of unrest whilst armed with his guns and then returned home?

Watching the same wonky news as spijed?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Watching the same wonky news as spijed?

Which part did I get wrong?

He was from Illinois and crossed over to Wisoncin, a distance of 20 miles or so.

Which part of that is Wonky?
He made out he was some sort of minuteman.

He was 17yrs old and made an emotionally immature decision to heavily arm and insert himself into a volatile situation.

[Spijed]

No he didn't.

He is a hero who acted very maturely whilst he was being chased and attacked by violent lefty attackers, one of them a convicted paedo.

besides this antifa are now shooting unarmed trump supporters dead you won't hear much about that in the loony left wing establishment media

Is this who you are sticking up for?

He should get a medal.

Do you think we should allow guns in this country?

[Swizzlestick]

No he didn't.

He is a hero who acted very maturely whilst he was being chased and attacked by violent lefty attackers, one of them a convicted paedo.

besides this antifa are now shooting unarmed trump supporters dead you won't hear much about that in the loony left wing establishment media

Is this who you are sticking up for?

He should get a medal.

Is your username the nervous laughter you get from people when you share your warped mindset?

[HahaYeah]

Do you think we should allow guns in this country?

Only for people with a 'warped mindset'.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

No he didn't.

He is a hero who acted very maturely whilst he was being chased and attacked by violent lefty attackers, one of them a convicted paedo.

besides this antifa are now shooting unarmed trump supporters dead you won't hear much about that in the loony left wing establishment media

Is this who you are sticking up for?

He should get a medal.

So nothing I've said is correct?

Interesting how you'll believe anything printed about the violent lefty attackers as you've called them but nothing about the idiot teenager with the guns...

[HahaYeah]

So nothing I've said is correct?

Interesting how you'll believe anything printed about the violent lefty attackers as you've called them but nothing about the idiot teenager with the guns...

Footage is online - Unfortunately for the lefty msm you can see with your own eyes him running away after being attacked by the loony left.

[martin_p]

Footage is online - Unfortunately for the lefty msm you can see with your own eyes him running away after being attacked by the loony left.

And here’s the lefty mainstream media reporting on that thing you said they’d ignored.

Portland suspect shot dead by police d ... a-54023227

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Footage is online - Unfortunately for the lefty msm you can see with your own eyes him running away after being attacked by the loony left.

I'm talking about him arming himself and then driving 20 miles with the intent of getting involved in a volatile situation when he's just 17yrs old, and then going home like nothings happened after he's killed people.

Apparently everything I've said is wrong, so whenever you're ready tell me which part is wrong.

[Swizzlestick]

Maybe they didn’t cover anything as inconvenient as what actually happened on the latest Ben Shapiro podcast.

[RingoMcCartney]

There is a need for a new party but it isn't to the right of the tories. It is in the middle. A party of your average everyday working man...and woman. The ones who don't feel properly represented by anyone anymore.

You could be right to be fair. The majority of people would probably vote for a party whose policies were a mix of what would traditionally be considered both left and right. Bare in mind I did say people would turn to other parties if they felt this government havent delivered. Theres 4 years till the next general election. A week is a long time in politics.