Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
ClaretAndJew
Posts: 6881
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:08 am
Been Liked: 2322 times
Has Liked: 463 times
Location: Earth

Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:23 pm

But we're all still going to the pubs and what not right?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... y-12066910

BurnleyFC
Posts: 1269
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:51 am
Been Liked: 468 times
Has Liked: 339 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:26 pm

What with Gareth in charge of the national side and Boris in charge of the nation, it’s not a good time to be English, is it?
This user liked this post: Zlatan

gandhisflipflop
Posts: 2271
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
Been Liked: 771 times
Has Liked: 552 times
Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:33 pm

Before this thread inevitably turns political, I just want to ask how much longer the government or the world expect people to go on like this with no end seemingly in sight? I have been hugely supportive of the rules and been critical of those who arnt following rules and putting other lives at risk but there has to come a point surely where we think how much longer is this going to go on for? It's demoralising and while my sole priority is protecting our societies most vulnerable by complying with regulations I just feel that we aren't getting anywhere and won't be anytime soon which is depressing.
These 3 users liked this post: Silkyskills1 MT03ALG LAM

tim_noone
Posts: 14863
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
Been Liked: 3822 times
Has Liked: 13195 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by tim_noone » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:36 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:33 pm
Before this thread inevitably turns political, I just want to ask how much longer the government or the world expect people to go on like this with no end seemingly in sight? I have been hugely supportive of the rules and been critical of those who arnt following rules and putting other lives at risk but there has to come a point surely where we think how much longer is this going to go on for? It's demoralising and while my sole priority is protecting our societies most vulnerable by complying with regulations I just feel that we aren't getting anywhere and won't be anytime soon which is depressing.
The Reality is nobody knows wtf is going on.
These 4 users liked this post: Ashingtonclaret46 The Enclosure Rumpelstiltskin ecc

kritichris
Posts: 514
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:01 am
Been Liked: 104 times
Has Liked: 142 times
Location: France

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by kritichris » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:37 pm

Presumably when they find an effective vaccine it will be OK but if they can't we'll have to go for herd immunity which I suspect we have been heading for anyway.

gandhisflipflop
Posts: 2271
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
Been Liked: 771 times
Has Liked: 552 times
Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:40 pm

kritichris wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:37 pm
Presumably when they find an effective vaccine it will be OK but if they can't we'll have to go for herd immunity which I suspect we have been heading for anyway.
But then we have the anti vaccine idiots that think it will kill them. Therefore it won't go away. One thing is for sure, this virus has shown just what a selfish section of society we really have currently who are all to happy to share caring look at me memes on social media, but when to care about others had to be put into practice these last six months, have failed miserably.

boatshed bill
Posts: 6432
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 1334 times
Has Liked: 2884 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:41 pm

Concern now about younger age groups. Students going back to uni from all over the place probably not the best idea.
This user liked this post: HunterST_BFC

Boss Hogg
Posts: 324
Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:34 am
Been Liked: 83 times
Has Liked: 116 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:41 pm

It needed some action and a simple message. Many people are completely disregarding social distancing and particularly in shops. A mask doesn’t mean you should ignore distancing. People need to learn how long a metre and 2 metres are.
These 2 users liked this post: mdd2 MT03ALG

Steve-Harpers-perm
Posts: 3646
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:52 am
Been Liked: 1186 times
Has Liked: 508 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:52 pm

Plenty of time for a u-turn on this.

gandhisflipflop
Posts: 2271
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
Been Liked: 771 times
Has Liked: 552 times
Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:55 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:41 pm
It needed some action and a simple message. Many people are completely disregarding social distancing and particularly in shops. A mask doesn’t mean you should ignore distancing. People need to learn how long a metre and 2 metres are.
They know, but they just don't care which is the problem and it's infuriating.

Newcastleclaret93
Posts: 851
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 pm
Been Liked: 148 times
Has Liked: 18 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:55 pm

It genuinely concerns me how many people will be unemployed in the coming months. how will our economy recover?

Burnley Ace
Posts: 1920
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:03 pm
Been Liked: 361 times
Has Liked: 1563 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Burnley Ace » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:23 pm

But at least we can go to the office.

Awayfromburnley
Posts: 262
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:08 am
Been Liked: 118 times
Has Liked: 18 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Awayfromburnley » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:23 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:33 pm
Before this thread inevitably turns political, I just want to ask how much longer the government or the world expect people to go on like this with no end seemingly in sight? I have been hugely supportive of the rules and been critical of those who arnt following rules and putting other lives at risk but there has to come a point surely where we think how much longer is this going to go on for? It's demoralising and while my sole priority is protecting our societies most vulnerable by complying with regulations I just feel that we aren't getting anywhere and won't be anytime soon which is depressing.
Not one for using WW2 analogies, but it's the best I can do at this time of night. For 6 years the country and most of Europe was turned in its head. Nothing was normal. It was bad. Very bad.

For 6 months we have had some inconveniences, and if you are really unfortunate you or relatives have been affected. It's been unpleasant.

There are terrible impacts on physical and mental health and the economy. That's very bad.

But.... It will pass, things will settle and go back to normal, but not for quite a while, sorry to say.

It absolutely needs people to abide by some rules and for leadership to make those rules clear and simple. The latter sentence is not happening and until it does then all this won't end.

Stop people you know from being selfish, ask them to social distance, wear a mask etc. If they argue or fall out with you then sod them, their loss. Time for a true society to come together as one, as a neighbours, friends and families and work together to stop this horrible disease.
These 3 users liked this post: gandhisflipflop Billy Balfour pureclaret

kritichris
Posts: 514
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:01 am
Been Liked: 104 times
Has Liked: 142 times
Location: France

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by kritichris » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:31 pm

Sadly the old will die and the young won't so why should the young care? it's like a mass euthanasia program.
These 2 users liked this post: Zlatan MT03ALG

gandhisflipflop
Posts: 2271
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
Been Liked: 771 times
Has Liked: 552 times
Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:31 pm

Awayfromburnley wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:23 pm
Not one for using WW2 analogies, but it's the best I can do at this time of night. For 6 years the country and most of Europe was turned in its head. Nothing was normal. It was bad. Very bad.

For 6 months we have had some inconveniences, and if you are really unfortunate you or relatives have been affected. It's been unpleasant.

There are terrible impacts on physical and mental health and the economy. That's very bad.

But.... It will pass, things will settle and go back to normal, but not for quite a while, sorry to say.

It absolutely needs people to abide by some rules and for leadership to make those rules clear and simple. The latter sentence is not happening and until it does then all this won't end.

Stop people you know from being selfish, ask them to social distance, wear a mask etc. If they argue or fall out with you then sod them, their loss. Time for a true society to come together as one, as a neighbours, friends and families and work together to stop this horrible disease.
That's fair enough, but in WW2 from what I gather we had a society pulling in the same direction to fight for a common goal. Today we have a society who evidently couldn't give two shits until it affects them and that's what is depressing. I think there's a big difference. I agree with your sentiments though.
This user liked this post: Awayfromburnley

Devils_Advocate
Posts: 7133
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
Been Liked: 2802 times
Has Liked: 528 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:33 pm

Anyone not too keen on being locked down again there's a big weekender party kicking off next Friday and apparently the govt have given it the green light

Info at this link https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/vis ... rd-castle/
This user liked this post: Zlatan

Dyched
Posts: 4835
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1524 times
Has Liked: 344 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Dyched » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:34 pm

See how this goes for me. The recent one was nonsense, can’t meet anyone outside my household? Nonsense. But I was fine to work in hospitality with 1000’s of customers and staff around the place.

Wile E Coyote
Posts: 7018
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:22 pm
Been Liked: 2325 times
Has Liked: 1387 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Wile E Coyote » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:58 pm

the science was right, we could have contained this virus effectively, but the vapid public continually ignore the advice and do whatever they please. its genuinely put me right off British people. by and large they are thick and uncaring.
These 3 users liked this post: dermotdermot MT03ALG Pimlico_Claret

nil_desperandum
Posts: 6141
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1477 times
Has Liked: 2882 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:04 am

Awayfromburnley wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:23 pm
Not one for using WW2 analogies, but it's the best I can do at this time of night. For 6 years the country and most of Europe was turned in its head. Nothing was normal. It was bad. Very bad.

For 6 months we have had some inconveniences, and if you are really unfortunate you or relatives have been affected. It's been unpleasant.

There are terrible impacts on physical and mental health and the economy. That's very bad.

But.... It will pass, things will settle and go back to normal, but not for quite a while, sorry to say.

It absolutely needs people to abide by some rules and for leadership to make those rules clear and simple. The latter sentence is not happening and until it does then all this won't end.

Stop people you know from being selfish, ask them to social distance, wear a mask etc. If they argue or fall out with you then sod them, their loss. Time for a true society to come together as one, as a neighbours, friends and families and work together to stop this horrible disease.
But this is really nothing like WW2. Obviously war is horrible and the tragedy of death and suffering is inevitable along with rationing etc., but pretty much everything went on as usual, in fact between 1939 and 45 people were busier and more active than ever.
People went to work as normal, (often did overtime), they socialised together, children went to school as normal, they played team sports, they watched football etc., they went to scouts, cubs, swimming clubs, etc., they went to choirs and music clubs, they went to the library. They could unwind in the pubs with no social distancing. Young people partied, young people danced, young people sh**ed, etc. All these things were good for morale, in fact morale was generally good.
This is much different in the inevitable impact it's having on people's well-being and mental health.
This user liked this post: LAM

nil_desperandum
Posts: 6141
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1477 times
Has Liked: 2882 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:40 pm
But then we have the anti vaccine idiots that think it will kill them. Therefore it won't go away.
Not really sure why that would be the case. If -say- 90% get vaccinated they should be safe, and the other 10% (who don't) will either die or catch it, survive and get herd immunity.
(This wouldn't necessarily mean that it had gone away though, it's just that in most cases we'd be immune for a period.)

HunterST_BFC
Posts: 2306
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:13 pm
Been Liked: 956 times
Has Liked: 1876 times
Location: varied

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 am

This is from May 11th

https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus- ... h-11986523

Nothing's changed.

Just added a wig.

ClaretCraig
Posts: 44
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:14 pm
Been Liked: 21 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by ClaretCraig » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:14 am

kritichris wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:31 pm
Sadly the old will die and the young won't so why should the young care? it's like a mass euthanasia program.
And the old and vulnerable who get ill will stretch the NHS and ICUs to breaking point if not managed. My son's double transplant is still on hold because of the first wave. So if it's not managed and people dont listen it's not just the old who die, lots of indirect deaths will result.

lrac
Posts: 401
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:51 pm
Been Liked: 82 times
Has Liked: 263 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by lrac » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:19 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:52 pm
Plenty of time for a u-turn on this.
Tell this to the dead

gandhisflipflop
Posts: 2271
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
Been Liked: 771 times
Has Liked: 552 times
Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:22 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 am
Not really sure why that would be the case. If -say- 90% get vaccinated they should be safe, and the other 10% (who don't) will either die or catch it, survive and get herd immunity.
(This wouldn't necessarily mean that it had gone away though, it's just that in most cases we'd be immune for a period.)
That's a good point that never thought of it like that.

dsr
Posts: 11168
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:47 pm
Been Liked: 3255 times
Has Liked: 1374 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by dsr » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:37 am

Young people have already given up their education, their jobs, their training, and their social life for 6 months, for a disease that doesn't affect them. Very many of them have been left without jobs and without on-the-job training and experience and have the promise that they will eventually have to pay the bills for this lot. And what thanks do they get?

It's little wonder if some of them are thinking the game's not worth the candle.
This user liked this post: BurnleyFC

dermotdermot
Posts: 2307
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:50 pm
Been Liked: 446 times
Has Liked: 181 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by dermotdermot » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:35 am

This reflects the 1918/19 pandemic when, initially in March, older people were affected. It was in the second wave, about now, that it affected healthy young people predominantly. They died in droves. Hopefully this won’t happen but perhaps they could have been a little more careful and not so frivolous about it.

The second wave of 1918 killed a lot of healthy young people in 1918/9. Early in 1919 there was a third low key wave and, by August, it was all over. It disappeared. Let’s just hope that history repeats itself with, hopefully, the second wave not being as bad as its predecessor.

RVclaret
Posts: 945
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:30 am
Been Liked: 195 times
Has Liked: 57 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by RVclaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:59 am

dermotdermot wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:35 am
This reflects the 1918/19 pandemic when, initially in March, older people were affected. It was in the second wave, about now, that it affected healthy young people predominantly. They died in droves. Hopefully this won’t happen but perhaps they could have been a little more careful and not so frivolous about it.

The second wave of 1918 killed a lot of healthy young people in 1918/9. Early in 1919 there was a third low key wave and, by August, it was all over. It disappeared. Let’s just hope that history repeats itself with, hopefully, the second wave not being as bad as its predecessor.
One of the main differences being the Spanish flu had a death rate of almost 3% whereas COVID-19 looks to be around 0.2%.

claptrappers_union
Posts: 2663
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:40 pm
Been Liked: 760 times
Has Liked: 125 times
Location: The Banana Stand

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:00 am

The experts always said they’d be a second wave in the colder months.

But I’m beginning to see a narrative that young people (people who are going out - and eating out to help out) are the ones being blamed for the rise in cases, young people (whatever that means) are the ones working, while old people are told to shield.

So the stats will be correct, the government know exactly what they are doing - and it’s to send out mixed messages so society blames each other.

Woodleyclaret
Posts: 3669
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:25 pm
Been Liked: 740 times
Has Liked: 922 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:02 am

People are returning to work in London .The M4 towards Town was chocka yesterday
I think people are very nervous about using public transport but our students come to Kew by bus and by train .
We have increased infections around Hounslow so its increasingly likely we will have significant rises in London, then it will hit the national papers spreading panic, again

Guitargeorge
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:03 am
Been Liked: 193 times
Has Liked: 76 times
Location: Burnley

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Guitargeorge » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:28 am

Have faith in our scientists. We have some of the best research facilities in the world. This is a strange sars mutation that will need time to sort out and clinical trials take time. As possibly the only message board member who has been into the Cat 4 labs at Porton Down, admittedly before they were commissioned, I have an insight into the complex and time consuming work that is needed.

Burnley Ace
Posts: 1920
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:03 pm
Been Liked: 361 times
Has Liked: 1563 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:56 am

claptrappers_union wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:00 am
The experts always said they’d be a second wave in the colder months.

But I’m beginning to see a narrative that young people (people who are going out - and eating out to help out) are the ones being blamed for the rise in cases, young people (whatever that means) are the ones working, while old people are told to shield.

So the stats will be correct, the government know exactly what they are doing - and it’s to send out mixed messages so society blames each other.
It’s not the ones eating out to help out, it’s the ones singing and dancing in large groups or going to house parties with 40 people from different households who don’t wear masks, wash their hands, use sanitizer or heed any advice that you need to worry about

Granny WeatherWax
Posts: 1804
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:20 pm
Been Liked: 450 times
Has Liked: 51 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:22 am

The law may well be changing on Monday but it will be ok to break it in a very specific and limited way.
These 3 users liked this post: CombatClaret martin_p nil_desperandum

Wellsy1882
Posts: 529
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
Been Liked: 62 times
Has Liked: 32 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Wellsy1882 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:30 am

wont happen

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:38 am

If young people are to blame for the upward curve now then surely it follows that old people are to blame for the initial wave that caused so many deaths and shut the country down.

It’s nonsense of course but worth bearing in mind the next time you hear the government trying to blame a section of society for the problems its confused set of rules and rubbish test and trace system are causing.

CFS
Posts: 1380
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:46 am
Been Liked: 191 times
Has Liked: 74 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by CFS » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:51 am

Anyone who doesn't want a vaccine isn't an idiot it's their choice if they want anything stuffed up them.

Grumps
Posts: 2735
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:15 am
Been Liked: 603 times
Has Liked: 230 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Grumps » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:52 am

Talk about left hand right hand.... The health secretary has said that if you don't have symptoms, you're not eligible for a test, yet every council in Lancashire are setting up numerous sites urging people with no symptoms to get tested.

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:57 am

CFS wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:51 am
Anyone who doesn't want a vaccine isn't an idiot it's their choice if they want anything stuffed up them.
Nah, anyone who doesn’t want a vaccine IS an idiot, and a selfish one at that.

claret2018
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
Been Liked: 221 times
Has Liked: 6 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by claret2018 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:03 am

So the government which has just been throwing money at people to eat out in crowded restaurants now thinks people need to stop socialising outside.

And don’t work from home even if you can, because if you do then the landlords who own the office might lose some money, and one of the 450 Prets in London might have to close.

It’s been mixed messages since day 1, but aside from total strict lockdown (impossible now) I don’t think it’s going to make any difference. Add into the fact a lot of people have long since given up caring, and I think we’ll see the numbers continue to rise.
This user liked this post: evensteadiereddie

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:06 am

claret2018 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:03 am
So the government which has just been throwing money at people to eat out in crowded restaurants now thinks people need to stop socialising outside.

And don’t work from home even if you can, because if you do then the landlords who own the office might lose some money, and one of the 450 Prets in London might have to close.

It’s been mixed messages since day 1, but aside from total strict lockdown (impossible now) I don’t think it’s going to make any difference. Add into the fact a lot of people have long since given up caring, and I think we’ll see the numbers continue to rise.
To be fair the only change here is that the guidance (which people were ignoring) is now becoming law. If you were following the guidance anyway this will have no impact on your life.
Last edited by martin_p on Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

Inchy
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:32 pm
Been Liked: 900 times
Has Liked: 79 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Inchy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:06 am

The mixed messages from the government mean many people have given up trying to follow the confusing rules.


You cannot meet with more than 6 people but you can go to work with dozens. Up until recently I was unable to visit my dad in his garden in Burnley but I was able to meet him
In the pub.

The rules don’t make sense so people won’t follow them.


The government are rightly trying to keep the economy going but by doing so are confused as to how to keep people apart whilst spending.

As someone who works in ICU I will start getting worried when we start seeing admissions to ICU with covid. At the moment that hasn’t happened for months.

Surely young people getting this disease but not getting ill is a good thing
These 2 users liked this post: Anonymous Dazzler

NottsClaret
Posts: 2381
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:05 am
Been Liked: 1928 times
Has Liked: 1 time

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:07 am

Young people spreading a virus is the most selfish thing I’ve heard of since retired, old people decided to end young people’s right to live and work anywhere in Europe.
These 2 users liked this post: evensteadiereddie Bainsyclaret

CFS
Posts: 1380
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:46 am
Been Liked: 191 times
Has Liked: 74 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by CFS » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am

martin_p wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:57 am
Nah, anyone who doesn’t want a vaccine IS an idiot, and a selfish one at that.
Ok Martin

Boroclaret
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:01 pm
Been Liked: 2 times
Has Liked: 1 time

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Boroclaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am

Grumps wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:52 am
Talk about left hand right hand.... The health secretary has said that if you don't have symptoms, you're not eligible for a test, yet every council in Lancashire are setting up numerous sites urging people with no symptoms to get tested.
He said that if you don't have symptoms then you are not eligible for a test, unless you have been specifically asked by your local authority to get a test. This is what happened in majority of Lancs as a result of the increased infection rate. Once these rates come down then these testing sites will move on and Lancs will be like the other areas where people with no symptoms aren't eligible for a test.

The commuication around this has been terrible though and it is no wonder people who don't have symptoms are wanting to get tested.

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:12 am

Inchy wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:06 am
The mixed messages from the government mean many people have given up trying to follow the confusing rules.


You cannot meet with more than 6 people but you can go to work with dozens. Up until recently I was unable to visit my dad in his garden in Burnley but I was able to meet him
In the pub.

The rules don’t make sense so people won’t follow them.


The government are rightly trying to keep the economy going but by doing so are confused as to how to keep people apart whilst spending.

As someone who works in ICU I will start getting worried when we start seeing admissions to ICU with covid. At the moment that hasn’t happened for months.

Surely young people getting this disease but not getting ill is a good thing
That depends on keeping it that way. In France infections have now started creeping back into the rest of the community and hospital admissions are rising again. I’m not sure how you’d stop increased infection rates in the young starting the affect everyone else. A lot of young people still live with their parents and I’m sure they work with older people too.

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:15 am

Boroclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am
He said that if you don't have symptoms then you are not eligible for a test, unless you have been specifically asked by your local authority to get a test. This is what happened in majority of Lancs as a result of the increased infection rate. Once these rates come down then these testing sites will move on and Lancs will be like the other areas where people with no symptoms aren't eligible for a test.

The commuication around this has been terrible though and it is no wonder people who don't have symptoms are wanting to get tested.
The problem is that if young people are now the spreaders and are more likely (it seems) to be asymptomatic then we need to be testing people without symptoms anyway.

Boroclaret
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:01 pm
Been Liked: 2 times
Has Liked: 1 time

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Boroclaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:19 am

I agree.

taio
Posts: 6053
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 1771 times
Has Liked: 146 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by taio » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:22 am

Hospitals are in a great position right now in terms of Covid admissions, bed occupancy, ventilation capacity and deaths. But that could quickly change if a perfect storm emerges (i.e. normal winter pressures + seasonal flu + Covid second wave) as we head into winter. Other factors could also add to this such as reduced bad capacity caused by distancing and cohorting patients, and restoration of elective care e.g. cancer treatment which is crucial. That said I think we've already seen the worst of it and there are of course now more effective treatments.

claret2018
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
Been Liked: 221 times
Has Liked: 6 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by claret2018 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:29 am

martin_p wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:06 am
To be fair the only change here is that the guidance (which people were ignoring) is now becoming law. If you were following the guidance anyway this will have no impact on your life.
We’re gatherings of more than 6 outside not allowed before? I don’t know.

Will the local lockdown rules still apply over these rules?

Grumps
Posts: 2735
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:15 am
Been Liked: 603 times
Has Liked: 230 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by Grumps » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:30 am

Boroclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am
He said that if you don't have symptoms then you are not eligible for a test, unless you have been specifically asked by your local authority to get a test. This is what happened in majority of Lancs as a result of the increased infection rate. Once these rates come down then these testing sites will move on and Lancs will be like the other areas where people with no symptoms aren't eligible for a test.

The commuication around this has been terrible though and it is no wonder people who don't have symptoms are wanting to get tested.
The sky news website missed that bit off.....

martin_p
Posts: 7558
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 2459 times
Has Liked: 519 times

Re: Social gatherings of more than 6 people to be banned

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 am

claret2018 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:29 am
We’re gatherings of more than 6 outside not allowed before? I don’t know.

Will the local lockdown rules still apply over these rules?
That’s the guidance yes.

Pretty sure any local lockdown rules will still override national rules.

Post Reply