Art

[hawxi]

Dear me..ive heard some conspiracy theories in my time..

As for your comments about auctions not taking his ( or any other artists works ) ..that simply isnt true. Solid Provenance is all that is required.. and also, he has his own authentication process ( https://www.pestcontroloffice.com/ ) which will back up any print legitimacy and taken as the standard provenance required to consign into auctions

All of the prints in this present auction were sold direct initially by the artist - some may then have been resold by galleries - but most havent been.. so clearly shows what you are saying isnt true - https://www.sothebys.com/en/digital-cat ... ?locale=en

You are though correct about the tie up and relationship between Banksy and Hirst.. who have combined ownership of the Pest Control part of his empire ( and he does have a large collection of Banksy works in his own collection )

Im sure this is pretty boring stuff though - so sorry for the ramblings

Hauxi, Banksy is a government agent to provide solace to Hull etc. whilst pouring bathos on better art, for the sake of visual power in the hands of corporate media and not me.

You can't just put art up for auction at sotherbys, you have to have provenance from a gallery, the work has to have been sold in a gallery first, I have letters from them, as I've tried... UNLESS you are Banksy or Damien Hirst.

Banksy is an art world insider, presented as against the art world because a totalitarian state provides its own opposition, you can't get in.

[Pstotto]

No, BANKSY can exhibit and sell at Sotherbys, I can't. I've tried. That's because he's an INSIDER pretending to be an outsider, because a Banksy in Hull keeps the peace, the plebs are happy with the rhetoric.

It's good cop bad cop.

They have all these BLM artists at the Tate against the UK, PAID FOR by Gov.UK.

[hawxi]

Lost me... sorry.

No, BANKSY can exhibit and sell at Sotherbys, I can't. I've tried. That's because he's an INSIDER pretending to be an outsider, because a Banksy in Hull keeps the peace, the plebs are happy with the rhetoric.

It's good cop bad cop.

They have all these BLM artists at the Tate against the UK, PAID FOR by Gov.UK.

[Pstotto]

The state provides its own opposition in an arena which it controls in order to provide a simulacrum of democracy.

Director of Tate Britain Alan Farquarson is appointed by the Minister for Culture, the Turner Prize apes democracy by making out it sponsors diverse political viewpoints as the vanguard of art.

Political viewpoints have nothing to do with art, it is a sophisticated red herring.

[hawxi]

maybe best to get the thread back on track to what art people like huh??

The state provides its own opposition in an arena which it controls in order to provide a simulacrum of democracy.

Director of Tate Britain Alan Farquarson is appointed by the Minister for Culture, the Turner Prize apes democracy by making out it sponsors diverse political viewpoints as the vanguard of art.

Political viewpoints have nothing to do with art, it is a sophisticated red herring.

[Pstotto]

I'm always amused by folk who say they like abstract painting... Whatever it might represent, keep it safe as an illusion and pray it doesn't exist other than as that.

[Pstotto]

Nobody knows what media is, in the same way that nobody knows what electricity or gravity is.

As a child watching Camberwick Green, one learns that TV media is a construct of man, because Windy Miller whoever scrolls the credits, so you can see.

If one were to see the ATV symbol and animation (1960s) as alive, it would be terrifying.

One of the things, is that media is 'alive' because it's a fact of consciousness, so if one is not careful, the TV is alive if one confuses that bit of consciousness with it.

Abstract art plays that line.

[Pstotto]

Rowls and others interested, if you watch this video on the Californian artist Laura Owens, at 5.15 you can compare her take on newspaper-as-data and with mine above.

I was doing this before her.

I envision architectonic imagery and novel form and space directly related to the data field, whereas she moves stuff about so it's not an architectonic perception of data it's a simulacrum of, although it's similar subject and similar outcome, because the same 'thing' is out there lurking...

Nice pictures but simple Photoshop technique, very expensive to make and sell for millions literally her work, mine more advanced in the cupboard.

The fed and watered plant and the Northerner 'who should learn his place'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNpjps52CE8

Sorry about the 'music to it', in advance.

[Inchy]

Rowls and others interested, if you watch this video on the Californian artist Laura Owens, at 5.15 you can compare her take on newspaper-as-data and with mine above.

I was doing this before her.

I envision architectonic imagery and novel form and space directly related to the data field, whereas she moves stuff about so it's not an architectonic perception of data it's a simulacrum of, although it's same subject and similar outcome.

Nice pictures but simple Photoshop technique, very expensive to make and sell for millions literally her work, mine more advanced in the cupboard.

The fed and watered plant and the Northerner 'who should learn his place'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNpjps52CE8

Sorry about the 'music to it', in advance.

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Art at its finest


Bravo pstotto

[Pstotto]

https://youtu.be/sNpjpS52CE8

This works.

[Dark Cloud]

"Supper at Emmaus" by Caravaggio. Interesting guy (to say the least) and wonderful talent!
Failing that, "Ophelia" by Millais. See above!

[Long Time Lurker]

It hasn't been made yet, and thinking good thoughts I hope that it isn't available for a long while, but I would like the skeletal hand of the deceased Banksy.

It would be presented in a small, hermetically sealed glass cylinder, shaped like an aerosol can. The hand would be magnetically suspended above a pool of chromatic ink that appeared to change colour in relation to the refraction of light. The pool would be in the shape of an orchid stencil with dissembled petals. Fixed together with some form of undetectable solvent, the hand would be poised in a permanent two fingered salute, so that it portrayed victory from one view point and **** you from another.

As I title, I don't know, maybe " Canned Laughter "

Alternatively, the actual Burnley fax machine with a single sheet of crumpled and torn A4 emerging from it. The piece of paper would feature the word HOPE in large claret and blue letters, possibly with some tear stains on it.

In terms of something that is more attainable, an original work by Valdimir Kush would be a nice thing to hang on the wall.

[Pstotto]

Easy on the eye and easy on the mind, for sure...

Most of my experience of looking at art has been through books and catalogues at one's leisure, this art book on Chris Foss is awesome and definitely worth buying and a fantastic Christmas present to anybody who would enjoy sci-fi craft illustration at its best.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardware-Defin ... 1848566980

It looks to be currently out of stock, probably because of Covid demand.

[BabylonClaret]

Didn't Chris Foss do all the Asimov paperback stuff ? I love my old Foundation trilogy covers

[Pstotto]

Yes.

[Long Time Lurker]

It looks to be currently out of stock, probably because of Covid demand.

It was published in 2011 so I think the shortage is down to the sale of stock over the last 9 years and no subsequent repeat of the print run.

It is still available here for £27.68 including postage. New and shipped from an Italian supplier. They have copies from other suppliers as well.

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Book ... 1-_-title1

Abe books are owned by Amazon, so you can rest assured that the smallest possible part of any payment they receive as part of the sale will return to our country in the form of taxes

I looked for a small business supplier selling direct, but sadly I couldn't find one.

[Pstotto]

I'm glad I have my copy.

It's novel form creation of a type I enjoy.

There's very little of that in contemporary art, with abstract painting one has to augment the pictures to an extent in the mind to see them as alien objects akin to Chris Foss's creations.

I aim to extend perception of object eye candy, Chris Foss-style + contemporary art by using MCN as the base matter rather than Hello magazine etc. for sci-fi object recognition fantasy.

It's all part of the 'form and space race', you know...


For those that watched 'Materiality and Abstraction' starring Laura Owens, she's very big on using the term 'abstraction', it's a way of describing the ubiquitous unknown intrinsic to all pictures, in effect.

The remit of abstract painting is to withhold all judgment to 'go beyond the self' by bringing something to fruition without any psychology attached that might reduce the greatness of the flow of natural genius.

I don't use that terminology myself.

A better way of putting it is 'the transcendental pictorial context of perspective' to which all visual matter is subject, as described before i.e. 2D shape represents 3D form and so on.

How the artist forms a relationship with that fact, determines their way of working, for the most part denial...

Usually because they don't have the talent and necessary gifts of architectonic reasoning, which is the essential factor.


If you're a fan of the term abstraction and think it is abstract, rather than buy a few drinks for abstraction at The Pub Last Stand tonight, why not stay in and instead order:

'Beyond Resemblance- Abstract Art in The Age of Global Conceptualism' Reaktion Books. 2017 by Robert Linsley.

He's a former colleague of mine, he was hawking his blog and I told him he might as well write a book instead. I'm glad I did because he was killed in a bike accident in 2017.

I wonder if he died before his book was published.

His paintings are like maps, creating a conceptual frisson between 2D and 3D in terms of how to assess the pictures.

That was his 'way of doing it'.

To link it to football, Sean Dyche must have at some stage to accept his limitations and what he is, what dog he is, even.

I think Robert must have decided how to have an interactive interest within the limits of one's capacity.



His book is an interesting read but for him, abstraction is a 'thing' of some sort, almost as a form of picture-animism.

I absolve myself from that, by the above euphemism, the TPCP.

[Pstotto]

Fellow traveler on the artist ship of fools and my favourite MAXIMALIST artist is Fabian Marcaccio:

www.fabianmarcaccio.com

[The Enclosure]

This will do for me.

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