Outstanding timing to release an article about the eventual loss of our manager.

Burnley Football Club really need some serious lessons in PR, it's unreal that he's done this interview in the current climate

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... eague.html

Isn't this the guy that hired Brian Laws?

Christ on a bike, everyone knows we are screwed if Sean leaves. Should be doing everything in our power to keep him.

A sensible approach to an article which is really a hidden plug for UCFB. Sounds like that was the initial scope of the interview

Funny how you can get angry at the club for looking beyond the current management, it’s stuff you already know.

I think it’s a positive article with all the answers being ‘yes’

Is Sean Dyche a good manager for Burnley?
Does the club want him to stay?
Because of the success, do they expect that he will have Interest from elsewhere?
Is it realistic that he will eventually move on?
Have the club learned from hiring managers before?

Meanwhile my parents where telling the neighbours that they went to the will-writers this week, I can’t believe they are thinking about death, so negative... they should be doing everything in their power to stay alive. It’s my birthday this week too, outstanding timing.

It’s not that different to what Dyche says about our star players is it?

Just seen this...

Aston Villa taking on Manchester United in a pre-season friendly on Saturday.



So, our season start was delayed for a friendly?

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:25 am

A sensible approach to an article which is really a hidden plug for UCFB. Sounds like that was the initial scope of the interview

Funny how you can get angry at the club for looking beyond the current management, it’s stuff you already know.

I think it’s a positive article with all the answers being ‘yes’

Is Sean Dyche a good manager for Burnley?
Does the club want him to stay?
Because of the success, do they expect that he will have Interest from elsewhere?
Is it realistic that he will eventually move on?
Have the club learned from hiring managers before?

Meanwhile my parents where telling the neighbours that they went to the will-writers this week, I can’t believe they are thinking about death, so negative... they should be doing everything in their power to stay alive. It’s my birthday this week too, outstanding timing.

You think it's a good time to start talking about Dyche leaving in the national press?

Several players down
No players signed
Best performer of last season about to leave
14 fit players ahead of the new season
No concrete offer in for anyone

Oh, and our manager will probably leave.

Talk about a PR disaster lesson. But then it is Flood, the man's got the subtlety of bull in a china shop.

OPs ref is Daily Mail

click click click
...and create interest
click - click.
Edit old stuff for purpose ...
rehash
click click £

the timing is inappropriate for sure. perhaps a power struggle at boardroom level is afoot...?

Flood divides the opinion of burnley fans, nothing wrong with that. Every board of directors needs people on it with different views, different personalities. He brought some of our then directors kicking and screaming into the 21st century when the club needed it. It helped get the club to where it is now.
Yes he seeks publicity for himself and his enterprise's
Would I want him in control of the club, no I wouldn't, but as a board member, with different views than others, yes I would.

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

trust the Daily Mail and Flood to blow our cover and the big secret that is Sean Dyche.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

What happened to the club with the money he loaned? How much money has the club made in future years as a result of that loan?
I think, if you take your blinkers off, you will find it was a very good piece of business.

Foa Grumps spot on it was a very good piece of business but for who?
It's about opinions and I never question others opinions or resort to snide comments

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:25 am

A sensible approach to an article which is really a hidden plug for UCFB. Sounds like that was the initial scope of the interview

Funny how you can get angry at the club for looking beyond the current management, it’s stuff you already know.

I think it’s a positive article with all the answers being ‘yes’

Is Sean Dyche a good manager for Burnley?
Does the club want him to stay?
Because of the success, do they expect that he will have Interest from elsewhere?
Is it realistic that he will eventually move on?
Have the club learned from hiring managers before?

Meanwhile my parents where telling the neighbours that they went to the will-writers this week, I can’t believe they are thinking about death, so negative... they should be doing everything in their power to stay alive. It’s my birthday this week too, outstanding timing.

All yes apart from


Is a UCFB degree worth the paper it’s written on?

Dunno

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:38 am

Foa Grumps spot on it was a very good piece of business but for who?

Burnley Football Club without a shadow of a doubt. If anyone else made any money then good for them and I thank them for their contribution towards making the experience of supporting the Clarets the best it’s been in my lifetime.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

Floods company got into trouble after the bankers crash and the company demanded the loans be paid back.

I'm sure he isn't perfect but I don't think he can get blamed for anything you accuse him of in your post?

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

Yeah, it’s called investment

It's time to promote UCFB so he's crawled out of the woodwork again and used Burnley FC. Last time he popped out the article then referred to him as the owner. He can't own too many shares now, flogged most of them to Garlick didn't he?

I can't imagine the club will be too happy with this though, I don't think he's a spokesman for the club.

Read it twice and it left me 'meh' standard newspaper stuff. But: interesting that Flood has re-surfaced. On a board of doves, caution and parsimony he is the one with a bit of flair, ambition and drive. I suspect what is going on now is driving him nuts but he doesn't hold all the cards. That is Garlick. It was Flood's loans that kept the club afloat in 2009 and initially attracted players. He was the one who wanted to ditch Laws far earlier. Not too sure Laws was his sole appointment. Power struggle going on? He doesn't have enough shares to mount a threat. He is only saying what we all know that Dyche one day will leave and as things are at the moment sooner rather than later. But: he does divide opinion. You either see him as the bloke who drove BFC to promotion in 2009 or as a self serving publicist. What irritates me far more than this article is the total silence of Mr Garlick. And there are regular run-ins between him and Dyche. I'm guessing that Dyche is well and truly fed up.

I don’t know what he’s said that is detrimental to the club though.

He’s not exactly crawling out of the woodwork, he’s doing his job. He’s also on the board of a Premier League Football Club so naturally he’s going to answer basic questions about Burnley FC. He didn’t write the article.

Rodleydave wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:42 am

He was the one who wanted to ditch Laws far earlier. Not too sure Laws was his sole appointment.

In his own book he said he wanted to appoint Laws in 2007 but the other directors advised against. Just over two years later we did appoint Laws so I would assume, given it was the same group of directors virtually pulling the strings, that it was his decision. He was virtually running the club then.

As far as I can remember the club were in serious financial trouble at the time, with a transfer embargo because we had not kept up with payments on the Chris Eagles transfer
Had Coyle not got the promotion, that financial situation would have got worse and Flood may not have got his money back at all never mind interest
The rest of the directors were also looking at losing their outstanding loans and with promotion, they all wanted their money back immediately from the Premiership windfall such was their worry

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:16 am

the timing is inappropriate for sure. perhaps a power struggle at boardroom level is afoot...?

Well if there is, let’s hope Flood is nowhere near it when it happens.

Something seriously not right about him. Don’t know what it is, but the hackles go up at the mere mention of his name.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 am

In his own book he said he wanted to appoint Laws in 2007 but the other directors advised against. Just over two years later we did appoint Laws so I would assume, given it was the same group of directors virtually pulling the strings, that it was his decision. He was virtually running the club then.

dont let facts ruin a perfectly good conspiracy CT

nothing to worry anyone in that piece, we all know the situation.
Sean Dyche been here 8 years, always needs cash and a stronger squad, and more often than not doesn't get it.
new seasons begin and he still stays put, knowing full well the purse strings remain tightly drawn.
in his tenure we have achieved remarkable things, and the football world has witnessed it, but he hasn't gone anywhere.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

Of course he wanted his money back, that’s what a loan is.

Get's a fair amount of grief does Flood but on the whole his contribution to the club has been positive and we are better for his involvement.

When Teasedale had run his course, Kilby came along and added some impetus. Equally when Kilby needed a lift, Flood came along and freshened things up.

The fact that the global financial crash meant his loans had to be repaid is a moot point in truth as we are far better now than the day he walked through the door.

Fair play I say.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:50 am

Just seen this...

Aston Villa taking on Manchester United in a pre-season friendly on Saturday.



So, our season start was delayed for a friendly?

Funny that. I suggested that maybe we could play Villa instead of the Portugese lot, but both Tony and I agreed it might not be a good idea.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

We dont need Flood his loyalty to Burnley FC extends no further than his own personal interest
This is the guy that loaned money and recieved it back soon after with Wonga style interest added.We need to remove him and his comments off the board
If he is planning to increase his holding in BFC it can only end badly

It wasnt Flood that received the money back if i recall correctly.It was the administrators or liquidators of the company that asked for it back.What was the rate of interest that you refer to as Wonga style.I believe it was a commercial rate and would have been far less than we could have borrowed it elsewhere.

Jimscho wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:21 am

What was the rate of interest that you refer to as Wonga style.I believe it was a commercial rate and would have been far less than we could have borrowed it elsewhere.

He made that bit up in his head.

Much like how we wouldn’t be where we are now without Owen Coyle, the same analogy applies to Brendan Flood.

The grief that he gets from some on this board is totally unjustified.

Without Flood we would not be where we are now. He put the money in to get us in the Premier League. He got no financial benefit.

Why is he like marmite and vilified by sections of our fans?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 am

In his own book he said he wanted to appoint Laws in 2007 but the other directors advised against. Just over two years later we did appoint Laws so I would assume, given it was the same group of directors virtually pulling the strings, that it was his decision. He was virtually running the club then.

I thought in the Brian Laws article or thread you said the board didn't have much choice in the end as the other applicants had all pulled out?
Or words to that effect?

Down_Rover wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:36 am

Without Flood we would not be where we are now. He put the money in to get us in the Premier League. He got no financial benefit.

Why is he like marmite and vilified by sections of our fans?

Everybody has favourites.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:39 am

Everybody has favourites.

That was unnecessary

I pointed out some facts you made an insinuation based on no facts. I am no fan of Flood but grateful he came our way

Daily Mail there probably with 1000 words from Flood on a notepad somewhere, so write a 1000 word article based on the 42 words about how the club has plans in the event of Dyche's departure, as if planning for a very common footballing scenario implies it's inevitable or somehow newsworthy.

Down_Rover wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:01 am

That was unnecessary

I pointed out some facts you made an insinuation based on no facts. I am no fan of Flood but grateful he came our way

What are you on about?

I made a general point of everybody having favourites?

How has that riled you?

Down_Rover wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:01 am

That was unnecessary

I pointed out some facts you made an insinuation based on no facts. I am no fan of Flood but grateful he came our way

Why the butt hurt?

Everyone does have favourites, he hasn't implied that Flood is one of yours.

Going off on a bit of a tangent I suppose but if the squad remains as it is and the lid is kept tight on the jar on the mantelpiece, and Dyche keeps us up, he can say what Stan T said in his final season...that not being relegated with what he had at his disposal was his greatest achievement.

Rodleydave wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:48 am

Going off on a bit of a tangent I suppose but if the squad remains as it is and the lid is kept tight on the jar on the mantelpiece, and Dyche keeps us up, he can say what Stan T said in his final season...that not being relegated with what he had at his disposal was his greatest achievement.

If that was going to be the case, I think for the sake of blood pressure and sanity, I'd stay off here for the foreseeable

Be an exciting season though wouldn't it? Blood pressure and sanity went through the roof in that last Stan season. That last minute win at Bradford and then Branchy the saviour with those two priceless wins at the end.

His contribution set us on the road to where we are now and it was the Bankers ruined his business, he only did what most other business were doing, borrowing to progress.

I do think he likes the sound of his own voice though based on first hand experience.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:39 am

It's time to promote UCFB so he's crawled out of the woodwork again and used Burnley FC. Last time he popped out the article then referred to him as the owner. He can't own too many shares now, flogged most of them to Garlick didn't he?

I can't imagine the club will be too happy with this though, I don't think he's a spokesman for the club.

It is essentially a rehash of an article from FC Business last month promoting the new Masters degrees - Flood being the the type of person he is will ride on the back of any story to promote his businesses, he adores the spotlight and that alone makes him unusual in our boardroom. He has always come across as a bit of a wideboy to me and I have never trusted his approach to our club. Flood is a huge risk taker, (another distinction in our boardroom) which is why he has been both successful and unsuccessful in business, he could yet become extremely wealthy, and like almost everyone that does that, has no compunction whatsoever over who he upsets along the way.

When Watford dumped Sean D all those years ago it must have hurt him. He is an intelligent man and having had a measure of cooperation with the owners of BFC has been a successful formula, exceeding everyone’s expectations. The success from this collaboration of management and owners has been greater than the sum of their individual parts.
Others teams have come and gone ( from the premiership) and have been so conceited not to have studied this successful formula. For example Watford.
There is no harm as this DM article seems to be saying that this wonderful club of ours needs to consider a succession plan, in the event that SD departs. UTC