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Re: Hendrick

Post by Local cricketer » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:54 pm

Wish we had Jeff Hendrick

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:55 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:52 pm
The love in for Hendrick - give him 5 months
Hold up, you weren't willing to give him 45 minutes when you started this thread.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by DCWat » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:55 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:53 pm
It’s no wonder West Ham want Tarkowski with Diop at the back.
Hopefully Tarkowski is watching. It’d put me off a move there, if I was silly enough to want one in the first place.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Touchline » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:56 pm

He’s had a good game on the right. Helped stopped the Antonio threat, covered well and showed some great touches. Good assist and a composed quality goal. Demonstrated the passing technique that created the goal for Vydra at Southampton. We’ll miss him that’s for sure. Certainly made a fool of the OP.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:57 pm

Great goal that, hit it sweetly but how much time did West Ham give him? They look shocking.

Newcastle fans will be happy tonight.

Those of us who say Brownhill will end up being the better player may be right, but nothing so far to suggest he can score goals like that.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by bobinho » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:57 pm

Hasn’t taken long for Jeff to become Messi-esque. How many goals like that did he score for us, and how many games did he play before he showed us? How many games has JB had?

He had good games for us of course he did, but he was NEVER a world beater, just steady when played in a position he was half familiar with.

There’s an awful lot of people on here who “know” why he didn’t want to stay here....

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:00 pm

He got a goal and an assist but his general game didn’t look that great. He’s an a bang average PL player. Let’s see how he’s doing after a dozen games. Don’t get the love in from some like they’be lost part of the family and wanting him to do so well for another club. He was offered a deal, wasn’t around to play the last few games and wanted more money.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:01 pm

I wish he was still here but I stand by my comment that their fans will be on his back in no time.

Wish him the best

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:02 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:00 pm
He got a goal and an assist but his general game didn’t look that great. He’s an a bang average PL player. Let’s see how he’s doing after a dozen games. Don’t get the love in from some like they’be lost part of the family and wanting him to do so well for another club. He was offered a deal, wasn’t around to play the last few games and wanted more money.
Where's the love in? All I can see is some bitter people looking silly.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 pm

And the view of a reasonable Newcastle fan I know:
Hendrick has been magnificent today - so solid at everything.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Zlatan » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:04 pm

Touchline wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:56 pm
He’s had a good game on the right. Helped stopped the Antonio threat, covered well and showed some great touches. Good assist and a composed quality goal. Demonstrated the passing technique that created the goal for Vydra at Southampton. We’ll miss him that’s for sure. Certainly made a fool of the OP.
Easy done, does it to themself all the time...
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:04 pm

A great debut but he needed a fresh challenge and a 3yr deal
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:04 pm

He is at a club who are higher in the table than we currently are ---must be a good move!

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm

We're down to 7th tonight.

Thanks Jeff.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:00 pm
He got a goal and an assist but his general game didn’t look that great. He’s an a bang average PL player. Let’s see how he’s doing after a dozen games. Don’t get the love in from some like they’be lost part of the family and wanting him to do so well for another club. He was offered a deal, wasn’t around to play the last few games and wanted more money.
So bang average that our manager did everything he could to keep him.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm

He won’t be a premier league player in 18 months. Mark my works

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:08 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm
He won’t be a premier league player in 18 months. Mark my works
He will be OK --he left the Clarets!

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:10 pm

He was getting pelters from Newcastle fans at half time.

People are going on like he had a masterclass. Steady away and scored a decent goal like he did every now and again for us.
Doesn’t get into our starting eleven with everyone fit. Thank him for his service and get over it. Don’t see anyone raving about Arfields performance today?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:10 pm

He’s crap.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm
So bang average that our manager did everything he could to keep him.
That could be more to do with him knowing how hard it is to get a player in, especially a midfielder. :lol:

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Re: Hendrick

Post by expoultryboy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm

Always thought Hendrick was a good steady player for us and I'm sure he'll be missed as part of our squad . I wish him all the best at the toon apart from the games against us , when I hope he has a stinker .
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Re: Hendrick

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 pm
So bang average that our manager did everything he could to keep him.
So why did he keep.playing him out of his favourite position as he never played anywhere else at derby ??? The only reason he left was because of the manager

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Re: Hendrick

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:11 pm
That could be more to do with him knowing how hard it is to get a player in, especially a midfielder. :lol:
No. He was a really good and versatile player for us.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:14 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:11 pm
That could be more to do with him knowing how hard it is to get a player in, especially a midfielder. :lol:
No, it's got a lot to do with how highly he rates him.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:14 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm
The only reason he left was because of the manager
That, I can assure you, is utter nonsense.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:15 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm
The only reason he left was because of the manager
Ha ha ha.

He played on the right wing tonight.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:18 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm
No. He was a really good and versatile player for us.
I know.

Stick your Saturday night head on, have a laugh or have a think why I put the laughing smilie at the end.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:20 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 pm
So why did he keep.playing him out of his favourite position as he never played anywhere else at derby ??? The only reason he left was because of the manager
I have it on good authority that he left because of you and when he scored he screamed a profanity followed by your name.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Touchline » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:25 pm

Dyche wanted him, Bruce wanted him,McCarthy wanted him. I’ll take that over ‘bang average, crap and championship player’
For someone who couldn’t get in the team when we had a fit squad he played a lot of games in 3 years. Isn’t that part of his attraction. He can actually play when others can’t. And we did pretty well in those years.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:32 pm

Touchline wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:25 pm
Dyche wanted him, Bruce wanted him,McCarthy wanted him. I’ll take that over ‘bang average, crap and championship player’
For someone who couldn’t get in the team when we had a fit squad he played a lot of games in 3 years. Isn’t that part of his attraction. He can actually play when others can’t. And we did pretty well in those years.
If you rate him that much then make a statement. Where will be be in 18 months?

Heres mine

6 months- bench player

18 months- championship

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Re: Hendrick

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:35 pm

Touchline wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:25 pm
Dyche wanted him, Bruce wanted him,McCarthy wanted him. I’ll take that over ‘bang average, crap and championship player’
For someone who couldn’t get in the team when we had a fit squad he played a lot of games in 3 years. Isn’t that part of his attraction. He can actually play when others can’t. And we did pretty well in those years.
Spot on clearly these top managers are all more qualified to judge whether Jeff Hendrick will be a useful addition to their playing staff or not.

We've been in the PL for the past 4 seasons, and JH has played in the majority of those games, that can't be a coincidence.

No-one is claiming he's a world beater, but he's an experienced midfielder with nearly 140 PL games under his belt, and he's gone to a fellow PL rival.

All those facts point to the case for him being a proven PL player, who was in demand.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:38 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:32 pm
If you rate him that much then make a statement. Where will be be in 18 months?

Heres mine

6 months- bench player

18 months- championship
6 months, still a regular first teamer.

18 months - still in the Premier League.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:41 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:27 pm
He went because he wants to play centrally so only the manager to blame for that - still looks like a boy lost on a big pitch

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:42 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:38 pm
6 months, still a regular first teamer.

18 months - still in the Premier League.
I’ve got to agree with Inchy on this one.

Prior to his goal Newcastle fans were slating him. good player but he pretty much contributed the same as Arfield in his time with us. Don’t see many people saying we should be back in for him.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:14 pm
That, I can assure you, is utter nonsense.
The interview I watched and I am sure you did was him stating that he left to get to play in his preferred position in centre midfield - so remind me again who picks the team ???

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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:42 pm
I’ve got to agree with Inchy on this one.

Prior to his goal Newcastle fans were slating him. good player but he pretty much contributed the same as Arfield in his time with us. Don’t see many people saying we should be back in for him.
Arfield is still remembered fondly on here though.

Newcastle fans slate anything and everything, however they're now full of praise for Hendrick, his goal, his work rate etc because he turned up, didn't hide, didn't let his head drop and that's what some fans like to see.

Bruce knows what he's got in Hendrick, an assist and a goal also justified starting him.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:42 pm
Prior to his goal Newcastle fans were slating him. good player but he pretty much contributed the same as Arfield in his time with us. Don’t see many people saying we should be back in for him.
Newcastle fans are probably the angriest fans in the country, nothing suits them and they'll slate everything because they think they should be signing world stars. He's better than Arfield, and that's not a criticism of Scotty, but he was always very stretched at Premier League level but outstanding in the Championship and in Scottish football. Arfield will always be remembered fondly by Burnley fans even though he, like Hendrick, chose to let his contract run down and go for nothing. I've never, ever understood the criticism of Hendrick who I thought proved time and time again just what a good signing he was. And I do laugh at this suggestion that Brownhill is an upgrade. We don't know how good Brownhill is going to be yet. He had some very good games when he came in but tailed off towards the end of the season although I expected him to. Hendrick proved himself to be a very good player for us over four years.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by timshorts » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:01 pm

Declan rice looked poor as usual.
Difficult to judge Newcastle on that performance. They looked like us with the 442 set up, but you can't play West ham every week.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:02 pm

He’s gone.....move on....
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Re: Hendrick

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:05 pm

timshorts wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:01 pm
Declan rice looked poor as usual.
Difficult to judge Newcastle on that performance. They looked like us with the 442 set up, but you can't play West ham every week.
Another player well over rated - I just don't see that fascination with him

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Re: Hendrick

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:15 pm

Proper funny thread. OP almost immediately made to look a fool and things only get better from there on in.

He's started his 5th successive season in the Premier League with a goal and an assist, you can speculate that he'll be in the Championship in 18 months all you want and it's still nothing but make believe.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:57 pm
Newcastle fans are probably the angriest fans in the country, nothing suits them and they'll slate everything because they think they should be signing world stars. He's better than Arfield, and that's not a criticism of Scotty, but he was always very stretched at Premier League level but outstanding in the Championship and in Scottish football. Arfield will always be remembered fondly by Burnley fans even though he, like Hendrick, chose to let his contract run down and go for nothing. I've never, ever understood the criticism of Hendrick who I thought proved time and time again just what a good signing he was. And I do laugh at this suggestion that Brownhill is an upgrade. We don't know how good Brownhill is going to be yet. He had some very good games when he came in but tailed off towards the end of the season although I expected him to. Hendrick proved himself to be a very good player for us over four years.
Great post as regards Hendrick. But i really wish you'd left the Brownhill bit out.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by tim_noone » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm

Same old Lineker...Jeff scored a cracking goal but omitted to show it in the summing up preferring to show the non handball......moving on.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:22 pm

Stats don't mean everything, but in this case I think they tell us a lot.
Most Premier League appearances for Burnley:
Mee 166
Barnes 155
Tarkowski 123
Hendrick 122
Cork 116
But worth noting that Mee and Barnes made their PL debuts over two years earlier than Hendrick.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm
Great post as regards Hendrick. But i really wish you'd left the Brownhill bit out.
Not a criticism of Brownhill. We've seen him have some really good games and some not so good games but we haven't seen enough of him to judge him yet. I really don't get all this over the top stuff about him being an upgrade on anyone. Time will tell how good a player he becomes for us.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:28 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:22 pm
Stats don't mean everything, but in this case I think they tell us a lot.
Most Premier League appearances for Burnley:
Mee 166
Barnes 155
Tarkowski 123
Hendrick 122
Cork 116
But worth noting that Mee and Barnes made their PL debuts over two years earlier than Hendrick.
And only Vokes and Lowton besides them to have made three figures although Westwood, JBG and Wood are in the 90s.

That 122 for Hendrick is out of a possible 137 games he could have played. Only Mee & Tarky ahead of him in that period.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by kritichris » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:30 pm

Our loss Newcastle's gain, no more to be said.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:28 pm
That 122 for Hendrick is out of a possible 137 games he could have played.
Yes, but JBG would have been a much better option - even when he was on the treatment table!!! :roll:

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Re: Hendrick

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:25 pm
Not a criticism of Brownhill. We've seen him have some really good games and some not so good games but we haven't seen enough of him to judge him yet. I really don't get all this over the top stuff about him being an upgrade on anyone. Time will tell how good a player he becomes for us.
I get your opinion "not an upgrade", although he does appear to be a very energetic young man: could turn out a gem for us.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:38 pm
I get your opinion "not an upgrade", although he does appear to be a very energetic young man: could turn out a gem for us.
As I’ve said, not a criticism. But we need to see more of him before we can judge him. Very difficult circumstances too to come into the side last season.

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