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ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am

Some good news about two of them, but seems all of Barnes, Mee & Cork will be missing this week

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:14 am

I presume the first team will all play in the league cup to get some minutes in them?

He would be stupid to play a 2nd string.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:16 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:14 am
I presume the first team will all play in the league cup to get some minutes in them?

He would be stupid to play a 2nd string.
I suspect he'll tell us that he'll put a team out strong enough to win the game - that's the usual one but then we don't. It's different this year though both with lack of numbers and being the first game.

Last season when we kicked off we basically had two players for each position.

Goal: Pope, Hart, BPF
Right Back: Bardsley, Lowton
Left Back: Taylor, Pieters
Centre Back: Tarkowski, Mee, Long, Gibson
Right Midfield: JBG, Lennon
Left Midfield: McNeil, Brady
Centre Midfield: Westwood, Cork, Hendrick, Drinkwater
Forwards: Wood, Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra.

With injuries and departures it's a bit different now.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:21 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:16 am
I suspect he'll tell us that he'll put a team out strong enough to win the game - that's the usual one but then we don't. It's different this year though both with lack of numbers and being the first game.

Last season when we kicked off we basically had two players for each position.

Goal: Pope, Hart, BPF
Right Back: Bardsley, Lowton
Left Back: Taylor, Pieters
Centre Back: Tarkowski, Mee, Long, Gibson
Right Midfield: JBG, Lennon
Left Midfield: McNeil, Brady
Centre Midfield: Westwood, Cork, Hendrick, Drinkwater
Forwards: Wood, Barnes, Rodriguez, Vydra.

With injuries and departures it's a bit different now.
Under normal circumstances I would agree, but with us already being a game behind the rest of the premier league in fitness terms and not having a full pre season.

It would be madness to not use this game to sharpen them up.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:23 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:21 am
Under normal circumstances I would agree, but with us already being a game behind the rest of the premier league in fitness terms and not having a full pre season.

It would be madness to not use this game to sharpen them up.
Totally agree. He won't risk someone who maybe has a slight niggle but I'm expecting an almost full strength team.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Top Claret » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:32 am

Ben Mee is more than likely touch and go. Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 am

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:32 am
Ben Mee is more than likely touch and go. Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games
"Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games."

Normally? How often has he had five or six games?

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Rowls » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:06 pm

What's really "touch and go" right now is we are one or two injuries/suspensions from having to throw in completely unproven youngsters.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:16 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:32 am
Ben Mee is more than likely touch and go. Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games
I imagine Mee will come straight back into the team when fit as he always does.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by ecc » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:30 pm

"Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games."

Phew.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Top Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:37 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 am
"Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games."

Normally? How often has he had five or six games?
He had 9 games last season and his form dipped.

Dyche will only bring Mee back when he is 100% fit. The Dyche style is not to drop a player until he has had a few bad games, this as always worked and been the corner stone of our success.

Good management is man management

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by MACCA » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:20 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:30 pm
"Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games."

Phew.
So we could do with as many of those 5 or 6 games as possible being in the cup, puts an extra incentive on getting through tomorrow then I suppose.

And he will be a long in 3, 2, 1....

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:27 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:37 pm
He had 9 games last season and his form dipped.

Dyche will only bring Mee back when he is 100% fit. The Dyche style is not to drop a player until he has had a few bad games, this as always worked and been the corner stone of our success.

Good management is man management
That’s not true with Mee, when was the last time he spent multiple games on the bench? It does apply to the majority of our players but the likes of Mee and Wood usually come straight back into the side when fit. I think Long understands where he sits in the pecking order and that’s one of the reasons he’s been a very useful squad player for us.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:01 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:37 pm
He had 9 games last season and his form dipped.

Dyche will only bring Mee back when he is 100% fit. The Dyche style is not to drop a player until he has had a few bad games, this as always worked and been the corner stone of our success.

Good management is man management
Long played the last seven last season which were his only Premier League games all season. When he’s played previously he’s always been quickly removed when the regular player has been available again. No waiting for any bad games.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:12 pm

No surprises with those 3 to be fair. And even if Mee was back, I wouldn't risk him for a cup game.

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:51 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 am
"Dyche will stick with Long until his form starts dipping, which it normally does after 5 or 6 games."

Normally? How often has he had five or six games?
beat me to it!

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Re: ARTICLE: Three likely to be ruled out for opening games

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:05 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:37 pm
He had 9 games last season and his form dipped.

Dyche will only bring Mee back when he is 100% fit. The Dyche style is not to drop a player until he has had a few bad games, this as always worked and been the corner stone of our success.

Good management is man management
"He had 9 games last season and his form dipped."

But that's not 'Normally'. That's on one occasion.

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