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1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:43 pm

The following games will be played in front of crowds of up to 1,000 this week.

Championship
Luton v Derby
Norwich v Preston
Middlesbrough v Bournemouth

League One
Charlton v Doncaster
Blackpool v Swindon
Shrewsbury v Northampton
Hull v Crewe

League Two
Forest Green v Bradford City
Carlisle v Southend
Morecambe v Cambridge
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 pm

Fingers crossed it works out.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Cubanclaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 pm

It's something I suppose - the EFL must be going through hell losing their gate receipts.
Will help these clubs get their ops sorted and be ready to phase up the numbers when the time comes.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:11 pm

That's an average gate for the Lashers

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:13 pm

How do they decide who gets a ticket . Is it like a Tombola ?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:17 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:13 pm
How do they decide who gets a ticket . Is it like a Tombola ?
That’s when the problems start

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:20 pm

Not saying its not needed as the EFL clubs must be really struggling, however there is so much conflicting stuff from government, cant meet my family in my garden but can go to the toilet at half time with strangers at the footie.

No wonder a large % of people arent bothering with the rules anymore.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:21 pm

I know some fans will enjoy going back but I fail to see any benefits.
It will cost clubs to host these with more stewards needed etc

Maybe 15k in gate receipts? No kiosks open?

But it doesn't prove we can get back to full crowds and the government will pull the plug if cases rise in the area anyhow?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:21 pm
I know some fans will enjoy going back but I fail to see any benefits.
It will cost clubs to host these with more stewards needed etc

Maybe 15k in gate receipts? No kiosks open?

But it doesn't prove we can get back to full crowds and the government will pull the plug if cases rise in the area anyhow?
Kiosks were open at the test event at Brighton the other week. Bizarre!

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:17 pm
That’s when the problems start
The rumours I've heard aren't clever at all.

Going to be some real fun and games and lots of tantrums to come.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:31 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:23 pm
The rumours I've heard aren't clever at all.

Going to be some real fun and games and lots of tantrums to come.
Some clubs have confirmed how they will do things with reduced capacities. Nothing said by others.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:32 pm

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2020/s ... statement/


Seems a bit smacked arse from Luton, had they known this morning they could have staged a game after requesting to be one of the volunteers, but as they didn't find out until dinner time they can't now stage it

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:43 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Not saying its not needed as the EFL clubs must be really struggling, however there is so much conflicting stuff from government, cant meet my family in my garden but can go to the toilet at half time with strangers at the footie.

No wonder a large % of people arent bothering with the rules anymore.
Exactly my thoughts. There will be no social distancing whatsoever outside the grounds.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:51 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:43 pm
Exactly my thoughts. There will be no social distancing whatsoever outside the grounds.
No chance, showed as much when the sky cameras were at the Brighton vs Chelsea friendly which was a test event.

Also the fans coming off the ground said there was little chance of social distancing in the concourse whilst getting food / going to the toilet.

Now you can keep the shops closed but you cant close the toilets.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:56 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Not saying its not needed as the EFL clubs must be really struggling, however there is so much conflicting stuff from government, cant meet my family in my garden but can go to the toilet at half time with strangers at the footie.

No wonder a large % of people arent bothering with the rules anymore.
If you're generating taxable revenue, you can do it. If not, you can't. Couldn't be much simpler.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Zlatan » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:57 pm

chap from Bristol Rovers (I think it was them) was stating on Sky Sports that it's not financially viable to run the stadium for such low numbers; opening the kiosks; security etc all costs money and its not worth it - apart from testing that they can do it.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:57 pm

Luton pulled out saying they have had insufficient time to prepare.
If entry to the ground hasn’t changed over the years then social distancing from local residents would have been a problem.
Was possible to enter houses on the way in at the away end lol

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:56 pm
If you're generating taxable revenue, you can do it. If not, you can't. Couldn't be much simpler.
Or killing grouse and foxes for bants.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:23 pm
The rumours I've heard aren't clever at all.

Going to be some real fun and games and lots of tantrums to come.
Season ticket holders with the most points, less at risk and within a certain radius of The Turf should be priority to begin with.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:00 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:57 pm
chap from Bristol Rovers (I think it was them) was stating on Sky Sports that it's not financially viable to run the stadium for such low numbers; opening the kiosks; security etc all costs money and its not worth it - apart from testing that they can do it.
It's an investment though really. They might not earn anything from 1000 coming in, but they're helping to speed up the return of bigger crowds, where they'll earn more.
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:01 pm

Still can’t understand why you wear a mask in a shop but not in a cafe, restaurant or plane when you are eating or when drinking in a pub with loads of strangers. It’s actually plain stupid. Either it’s safe or it’s not. I can sit in cramped pub with strangers but not sit with another household if numbers are above 6 but spread out in a large garden. Alternatively I can sit with 1,000 strangers watching Morecambe.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:01 pm

Statistically there's probably more chance of dieing on the way to the game than there is of dieing of covid. The whole thing is beyond a joke now.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:01 pm
Statistically there's probably more chance of dieing on the way to the game than there is of dieing of covid. The whole thing is beyond a joke now.
Try telling that to people who have lost their loved ones.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:14 pm

I found this interesting in terms of distancing........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnL0D-qtoao

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by TopCat » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:28 pm

Presume no away fans.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:32 pm

TopCat wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:28 pm
Presume no away fans.
You'd expect so. And as a poster put, people who live close to the ground, with no health issues.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:38 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm
Try telling that to people who have lost their loved ones.
So when all this crap is over are we going to do the same for Flu or other similar viruses?

If not, why not?

And tell that to any relatives of anyone that has died from Flu.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:32 pm
You'd expect so. And as a poster put, people who live close to the ground, with no health issues.
not a chance tickets will be allocated based on proximity to ground / health issues

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:49 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:41 pm
not a chance tickets will be allocated based on proximity to ground / health issues
Why?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:50 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:38 pm
So when all this crap is over are we going to do the same for Flu or other similar viruses?

If not, why not?

And tell that to any relatives of anyone that has died from Flu.
Well for a kickoff, the flu has a vaccine. Now, you will say that doesn't matter, but I think it does.

But from your posts and replies it seems you don't believe Covid exists. That the people who died from it, just died from natural causes. That Covid-19 is a conspiracy.

When we get a vaccine, I don't think it will be serious. But a lot of people have died from Covid and despite what you think, it does exist. The chances of popping your clogs is lower now than it was in April but it could spike and we're back to square one.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:32 pm
You'd expect so. And as a poster put, people who live close to the ground, with no health issues.
I can’t remember which bit of my season ticket application asked about my health!
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:53 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:49 pm
Why?
Is that a serious question? For one, as if the club are going to start asking people about their health.


I suspect it will be done either on a ballot system, or by using the loyalty point system, or a combo of both.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:51 pm
I can’t remember which bit of my season ticket application asked about my health!
I'm just wondering how they'll sort it... a lot of phone calls I expect. And it would be sensible to leave people out who are more at risk. People won't like it, but common sense prevails.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 pm

Less likely to pass on the virus by driving there in your own vehicle and parking close to ground than walking further amongst others even though you live nearer.

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:57 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 pm
I'm just wondering how they'll sort it... a lot of phone calls I expect. And it would be sensible to leave people out who are more at risk. People won't like it, but common sense prevails.
People dont need to shield anymore, so its up to them whether they want to risk going to the turf, its not up to the club.

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:57 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 pm
Less likely to pass on the virus by driving there in your own vehicle and parking close to ground than walking further amongst others even though you live nearer.
Correct.

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Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:58 pm

Certain age groups are at a higher risk of infection. So its not about asking people about their health. Wouldnt be hard to rule them within that age bracket out.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 pm
I'm just wondering how they'll sort it... a lot of phone calls I expect. And it would be sensible to leave people out who are more at risk. People won't like it, but common sense prevails.
I don’t think there’s a chance of them ringing round thousands of people.

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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:01 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Certain age groups are at a higher risk of infection. So its not about asking people about their health. Wouldnt be hard to rule them within that age bracket out.
Some people take immunosuppressive medication. Some people have cancer and take drugs for it. It's not just about age.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:01 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:01 pm
Statistically there's probably more chance of dieing on the way to the game than there is of dieing of covid. The whole thing is beyond a joke now.
Anything but beyond a joke and if the situation continues to worsen we could be back in full lockdown.

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:02 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Certain age groups are at a higher risk of infection. So its not about asking people about their health. Wouldnt be hard to rule them within that age bracket out.
i know 60 year olds who are fitter than some 30 year olds. not gonna happen, people need to decide for themselves whether they are comfortable going.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:50 pm
Well for a kickoff, the flu has a vaccine. Now, you will say that doesn't matter, but I think it does.

But from your posts and replies it seems you don't believe Covid exists. That the people who died from it, just died from natural causes. That Covid-19 is a conspiracy.

When we get a vaccine, I don't think it will be serious. But a lot of people have died from Covid and despite what you think, it does exist. The chances of popping your clogs is lower now than it was in April but it could spike and we're back to square one.
There must be something to it. But we have gone way over the top with a virus that you have to be tested for to realise you have it.

Anyway don't want the thread going off in a different direction.

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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:01 pm
Anything but beyond a joke and if the situation continues to worsen we could be back in full lockdown.
Exactly my point. But some people genuinely think like the Earth is flat.

I don't see a full lockdown, but can see spikes continuing and areas of the country keep getting locked down. The absolute Leeds twohats are trying their best - can see a lockdown here soon.

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Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:07 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:02 pm
i know 60 year olds who are fitter than some 30 year olds. not gonna happen, people need to decide for themselves whether they are comfortable going.
70s and 80s?

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:09 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:07 pm
70s and 80s?
Up to them, not BFCs job to play god.

And the virus has affected people with underlying health conditions, might be plenty of 70 & 80 year olds who don’t have any.

Ballot system and let people decide if they want the ticket is the fairest way.

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Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:19 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Up to them, not BFCs job to play god.

And the virus has affected people with underlying health conditions, might be plenty of 70 & 80 year olds who don’t have any.

Ballot system and let people decide if they want the ticket is the fairest way.
So you suggest a ballot? So what do you suggest if my 10 year old daughter gets picked out and I dont?

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:19 pm
So you suggest a ballot? So what do you suggest if my 10 year old daughter gets picked out and I dont?
All tickets registered at same address would be 1 ‘lot’ in the ballot.

Anyway what’s that got to do with age discrimination ?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:19 pm
So you suggest a ballot? So what do you suggest if my 10 year old daughter gets picked out and I dont?

I imagine in a ballot where fans all get a go at going you and your child would be grouped together. Do you think the club are going to work it so young children are asked to attend on their own ?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:23 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:02 pm
i know 60 year olds who are fitter than some 30 year olds. not gonna happen, people need to decide for themselves whether they are comfortable going.
That’s how it is going to be. We have a christening in our family next week, just the church followed by a meal. I’ve had to make the decision not to go because I don’t feel comfortable.

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Post by NottsClaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:27 pm

Might be ok if/when we get round to doing this at the Turf. Once you take out all the people who don't want to risk it, have made other plans, don't want to travel on trains/buses etc and can still attend without others in their 'group' - how many will actually be left?

To be honest, it could all change in a month or two, if that vaccine passes its last trial. In that situation I'd be cool with waiting until the new year or whenever and leaving it to those who are desperate to go now, even though I've a season ticket.
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