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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:41 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 pm
I imagine in a ballot where fans all get a go at going you and your child would be grouped together. Do you think the club are going to work it so young children are asked to attend on their own ?
The club cant even work out how to answer a phone

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:41 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:41 pm
The club cant even work out how to answer a phone

Maybe they have caller display
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:50 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:41 pm
Maybe they have caller display
Possibly
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 pm

From what I've heard you can look forward to some (if not all) of the following:

Season tickets will be refunded for 20/21.

Ballot for all games - You put in how many you want from the same household. Higher the number, less likely you are to get tickets.

No choice as to stand / row / where in stand.

Maximum 20% capacity.

No Away fans.

Ballot entry levels based upon highest points, ST holders, then any other applications.

ST's will be held for 19/20 holders for 21/22.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by timshorts » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:42 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:01 pm
Statistically there's probably more chance of dieing on the way to the game than there is of dieing of covid. The whole thing is beyond a joke now.
How did you work that out?

941,250 people have died this year worldwide from covid. That figure is probably too low due to under reporting by some countries.

I don't see that close on to 1 million have died on their way to football matches.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:55 pm

The club would be better off allowing the ST holders who have paid the most to attend so they have less money to pay back.
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by claret2018 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:59 pm

I can’t see this working at a time when cases are on the increase everywhere. Not going to last long at all.

We won’t be back at the turf until at least next season, probably the one after.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:02 pm

If fans aren’t back until the season after next there isn’t going to be much football left.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Grumps » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:07 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:59 pm
I can’t see this working at a time when cases are on the increase everywhere. Not going to last long at all.

We won’t be back at the turf until at least next season, probably the one after.
There will be reduced crowds at some point this season, back to normal next season, if not, the world will have gone completely

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by claret2018 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:36 pm

Grumps wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:07 pm
There will be reduced crowds at some point this season, back to normal next season, if not, the world will have gone completely
I wouldn’t be surprised if football below the premier league (and possibly the premier league as well) collapses completely this season. It’s been a ticking time bomb for a while, and a major event like this could see it off.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:38 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:55 pm
The club would be better off allowing the ST holders who have paid the most to attend so they have less money to pay back.
That's a great idea and the fairest way. ST holders who have paid in full = Priority. Then maybe a ballot like previously said by another poster.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:43 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:38 pm
That's a great idea and the fairest way. ST holders who have paid in full = Priority. Then maybe a ballot like previously said by another poster.
How is that fair? You really are talking some nonsense today.

A season ticket holder is a season ticket holder regardless on how they choose to pay. Also renewals were suspended before the early bird deadline so there will be existing season ticket holders who haven’t renewed.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:48 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:43 pm
How is that fair? You really are talking some nonsense today.

A season ticket holder is a season ticket holder regardless on how they choose to pay. Also renewals were suspended before the early bird deadline so there will be existing season ticket holders who haven’t renewed.
I've paid for my ticket upfront. Why should somebody who hasn't be in front of me? Remember 'cash is king' first come first served.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:48 pm
I've paid for my ticket upfront. Why should somebody who hasn't be in front of me? Remember 'cash is king' first come first served.
You get refunded.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 pm
You get refunded.
I understand I get refunded but if someone hasn't paid why should they be infront of someone who as paid upfront.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:52 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:48 pm
I've paid for my ticket upfront. Why should somebody who hasn't be in front of me? Remember 'cash is king' first come first served.
I’ve more loyalty points that you so let’s do it like that then eh. Er no as that’s not fair either.

All season ticket holders need to be given equal chance of going.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:53 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:52 pm
I’ve more loyalty points that you so let’s do it like that then eh. Er no as that’s not fair either.

All season ticket holders need to be given equal chance of going.
Prove it.

Cash not king anymore?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:55 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:53 pm
Prove it.

Cash not king anymore?
I don’t need to prove anything, it was an example, although I very much suspect I have.

In business cash is king yes, but it’s not a way to decide who gets a ticket.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:56 pm

Gents, don't worry you'll both get your money back and both get a ticket in the raffle.
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:57 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:55 pm
I don’t need to prove anything, it was an example, although I very much suspect I have.

In business cash is king yes, but it’s not a way to decide who gets a ticket.
It is a business and you must have more points :D

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:58 pm

What about me, what about me?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:58 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:56 pm
Gents, don't worry you'll both get your money back and both get a ticket in the raffle.
I’m not worried, I just think it should be done with equal chance for all cos I’m not selfish.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:59 pm

It will be equal.

Just those with more points will be more equal than those with less... :lol:

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:59 pm
It will be equal.

Just those with more points will be more equal than those with less... :lol:
We will see but I suspect it won’t be based on points.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:58 pm
I’m not worried, I just think it should be done with equal chance for all cos I’m not selfish.
Whats a fair solution then? If I'm picked out of the ballot does that mean my children are entitled to attend? If yes thats not fair on 3 other supporters whos names could've been picked out.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:04 pm

Indeed we will see. I've been told it will.

1st Ballot - ST holders with x number of points
2nd Ballot - Any other ST holders
3rd Ballot - General sale

Pretty much how the away ticket model works, allowing for priority for ST holders.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:05 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm
Whats a fair solution then? If I'm picked out of the ballot does that mean my children are entitled to attend? If yes thats not fair on 3 other supporters whos names could've been picked out.
It would be fair if you or your children are then not eligible to be in the ballot for another game until everyone else has been selected.
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm
Whats a fair solution then? If I'm picked out of the ballot does that mean my children are entitled to attend? If yes thats not fair on 3 other supporters whos names could've been picked out.
Apparently, you'll have to put in for 4 seats on your ballot request. Chances of you getting 4 tickets is vastly reduced due to them needing to keep social distance.

Like I said earlier, lots of problems to come and tantrums to follow.
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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:09 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm
Whats a fair solution then? If I'm picked out of the ballot does that mean my children are entitled to attend? If yes thats not fair on 3 other supporters whos names could've been picked out.
No kids are allowed as their season tickets are too cheap.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:11 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:09 pm
No kids are allowed as their season tickets are too cheap.
Don't see why your bothered then if it doesn't apply to you.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:12 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:11 pm
Don't see why your bothered then if it doesn't apply to you.
What, isn’t that what you were suggesting? Cash is king etc.

Resorting to call someone a kid when you’ve been owned :D

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:13 pm

You was spouting cash is king

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:16 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:12 pm
What, isn’t that what you were suggesting? Cash is king etc.

Resorting to call someone a kid when you’ve been owned :D

Owned?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by bobinho » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:00 pm
It's an investment though really. They might not earn anything from 1000 coming in, but they're helping to speed up the return of bigger crowds, where they'll earn more.
Agreed. Seems ridiculously short sighted to me...

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:39 pm

Personally,I wouldn't want to attend any of these trials .Far too early to start them..

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm

I'd imagine you'd get most problems with the fans meeting up for drinks before and after the game

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm

Just an idea. Wouldn't it be an idea to offer our 1,000 tickets in that scenario to local schools, possibly businesses where people work/learn in bubbles anyway? Low risk. Could get a few new fans from the youngsters attending who might not otherwise have done. Obviously supervised by teachers. They're already in bubbles at work/school.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:58 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm
Just an idea. Wouldn't it be an idea to offer our 1,000 tickets in that scenario to local schools, possibly businesses where people work/learn in bubbles anyway? Low risk. Could get a few new fans from the youngsters attending who might not otherwise have done. Obviously supervised by teachers. They're already in bubbles at work/school.
Or they could hand them out to the over 60's, who know how to behave,wear masks and social distance properly.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by paulatky » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:01 pm

Reports from Wales that a county is now in local lockdown after a cluster of cases linked to a club trip by coach to Doncaster races last week.
The coach stopped at a number of pubs both on the way there and the way back.

We really do seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot.

I fear it will be a long and lonely Christmas for many people

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by paulatky » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:02 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:58 pm
Or they could hand them out to the over 60's, who know how to behave,wear masks and social distance properly.
But who are at most risk !!!!

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by claret2018 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm

Can you pay on the gate?

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:58 pm
Or they could hand them out to the over 60's, who know how to behave,wear masks and social distance properly.
I see at least three over 60's who do neither in our local shop.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm

paulatky wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:02 pm
But who are at most risk !!!!
The only ones at risk are the ones with underlying conditions. ,!!

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:06 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm
I see at least three over 60's who do neither in our local shop.
I've seen hundreds of under 30's who don't as well.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:08 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:06 pm
I've seen hundreds of under 30's who don't as well.
You're clearly missing the point. You suggested all over 60's were sensible! I offered the fact they're not.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by DCWat » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:14 pm

I don’t think that I’ll be attending, if selected, and not solely because it’s too soon, with cases back on the rise.

The atmosphere with 1,000 in, all spread about, will be terrible, it’ll be worse than the fourth division days (barring the football on show).

If the games are on tele, that’s my choice until we can be back to the ground properly.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:16 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:08 pm
You're clearly missing the point. You suggested all over 60's were sensible! I offered the fact they're not.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:23 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm
I see at least three over 60's who do neither in our local shop.
Go to any working mans club or golf club and you'll see plenty of older people completely ignoring any social distancing or mask wearing rules as well.
But obviously its easier to pin the blame on young people, who have probablyhad to sacrifice more than anyone and received no thanks whatsoever from a lot of the older generation.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:23 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:14 pm
I don’t think that I’ll be attending, if selected, and not solely because it’s too soon, with cases back on the rise.

The atmosphere with 1,000 in, all spread about, will be terrible, it’ll be worse than the fourth division days (barring the football on show).

If the games are on tele, that’s my choice until we can be back to the ground properly.
I dream of the later 4th division days atmosphere coming back to the Turf.

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Re: 1,000 allowed attend ten Football League games

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:27 pm

I suggested about price being the deciding factor.

For every child the club allow on they will have to pay 30 quid back to the adult they don't let on. Some kids are free up to a fiver for the top price ticket.

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