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New Lockdown

Post by MRG » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:09 pm

Hearing a few whispers that it will be announced either tonight or tomorrow of an increased lockdown for the Burnley area similar to those enforced in the North East today.

Hoping that it isn’t true

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 pm

There will be a national one before long anyway.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:14 pm

Needs must unfortunately.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:23 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 pm
There will be a national one before long anyway.
Excluding Barnard Castle and surrounding areas.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mealdeal » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm

No surprise when you've got lines of perfectly healthy people queueing opposite Tesco car park to be tested
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mealdeal » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:40 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 pm
There will be a national one before long anyway.
I'll have 50p with you that there won't
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:40 pm
I'll have 50p with you that there won't
I'll up it to 50quid....no way they will impose national lockdown

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by DCWat » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:54 pm

Grumps wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm
I'll up it to 50quid....no way they will impose national lockdown
What makes you say that, the impact upon the economy?

The signs don’t look good, as things stand, and if all of the previous talk about the the colder months being the biggest concern, the current increases could be small fry, by comparison.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see another lockdown before we’re anywhere near at the end of this.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:55 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm
No surprise when you've got lines of perfectly healthy people queueing opposite Tesco car park to be tested
How? If they are perfectly healthy, they won't return positive results? Unless of course you're a qualified clinician and give them the once over before the swab?

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 pm

Anybody had their Flu Jab yet ?

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 pm

There won't be any kind of lockdown that matches that of 23/3

Maybe an attempt to limit movement of the proles in a recreational sense, but nobody will be denied access to anywhere with a till.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:59 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:54 pm
What makes you say that, the impact upon the economy?

The signs don’t look good, as things stand, and if all of the previous talk about the the colder months being the biggest concern, the current increases could be small fry, by comparison.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see another lockdown before we’re anywhere near at the end of this.
Economy... Better treatments....... Masks, local lockdown, pubs closing, social distancing... Economy... Pressure from the public unless deaths go up, but whilst flu is killing 10 times more than covid the public wouldn't stand for it..... Better testing...... Quicker testing..... Possible vaccine..... Economy.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:02 pm

Should just lockdown the over 50's and let the younger generation get on with life and help get the country back in shape. Old people carping on (as Mogg would put it) about anything and everything isnt doing anyone any good so let them shout at the clouds from the safety of their own homes where they cant do any damage
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:02 pm

At least we'll still be able to go grouse shooting. Thankfully we have people in charge who are really in touch with the needs of the population.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:03 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:02 pm
Should just lockdown the over 50's and let the younger generation get on with life and help get the country back in shape. Old people carping on (as Mogg would put it) about anything and everything isnt doing anyone any good so let them shout at the clouds from the safety of their own homes where they cant do any damage
Prick list contender....... As per

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:03 pm

Far too many people blatantly ignoring social distancing. Masks don't mean you can ignore it. Has anyone actually seen a group of teenagers social distancing ? Now even many of the older generations are just leaning towards people talking closely and there is no distancing outside many pubs and cafes. Wouldn't be surprised to see a sharp rise in winter months and full on lockdown unless people observe the more lenient rules.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mealdeal » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:55 pm
How? If they are perfectly healthy, they won't return positive results? Unless of course you're a qualified clinician and give them the once over before the swab?
You’ve seen the inaccuracy of the PCR tests haven’t you? Secondly, if I’m ill, pretty much the last thing I’m doing is standing in a ******* car park in a queue to find out that I’m ill.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:05 pm

Grumps wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:03 pm
Prick list contender....... As per
Right on cue

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by DCWat » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Masks is an interesting one.

Over the last two weeks, I’ve been in numerous shops in North, Central and Southern England, South Wales, North Wales and Scotland - people are not wearing masks or enforcing the wearing of masks in shops, as they should be, from my experience. There are too many smaller businesses not acting appropriately.

It’s going to be a more difficult act to balance than March.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm

The clinical staff at work are worried about it. People stayed away from A&E last time so hospital was empty. The fear is the same messers won’t stay away in a second spike.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 pm
Masks is an interesting one.

Over the last two weeks, I’ve been in numerous shops in North, Central and Southern England, South Wales, North Wales and Scotland - people are not wearing masks or enforcing the wearing of masks in shops, as they should be, from my experience. There are too many smaller businesses not acting appropriately.

It’s going to be a more difficult act to balance than March.
Whilst I was in Greece last week you couldn’t go in shops without masks on, couldn’t go in my hotel without one on and all staff were wearing them too.

I’ve never got why staff in shops don’t have to wear a mask, defies sense.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm
You’ve seen the inaccuracy of the PCR tests haven’t you? Secondly, if I’m ill, pretty much the last thing I’m doing is standing in a ******* car park in a queue to find out that I’m ill.
Yeah, I suppose if they have a symptom, or symptoms they want to know if they have it. If I have bog standard cold, im still working and meeting mates, Where as if I have covid im staying in, theres the difference.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by DCWat » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm
The clinical staff at work are worried about it. People stayed away from A&E last time so hospital was empty. The fear is the same messers won’t stay away in a second spike.
I know a couple of people that work in A&E at Bradford Royal Infirmary. As you say, A&E was extremely quiet, whilst those on Covid related duties were rushed off their feet.

There may have been the odd few that didn’t go to A&E when they should have done, during lockdown, but really A&E was probably operating at the level of business that it should be, if two hats weren’t shitting all over the system.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by DCWat » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:19 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 pm
Whilst I was in Greece last week you couldn’t go in shops without masks on, couldn’t go in my hotel without one on and all staff were wearing them too.

I’ve never got why staff in shops don’t have to wear a mask, defies sense.
Wales was a bit unfair of me to pinpoint - at the time I was there, masks were not compulsory.

Wherever it is, they should be fining the shops and the patrons for not wearing masks.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:20 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm
I know a couple of people that work in A&E at Bradford Royal Infirmary. As you say, A&E was extremely quiet, whilst those on Covid related duties were rushed off their feet.

There may have been the odd few that didn’t go to A&E when they should have done, during lockdown, but really A&E was probably operating at the level of business that it should be, if two hats weren’t shitting all over the system.
100%, so many idiots attend A&E when the really really shouldn’t.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by BenWickes » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 pm
There will be a national one before long anyway.
Been saying for a couple of months there will be. Bound to. People just can't think sensibly. I hear Merseyside is going into partial lockdown before weekend. Higher figures than Birmingham. That's almost 1/6 of the entire population of the UK and it's no coincidence it's just a couple of weeks after the Bank Holiday.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:23 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Been saying for a couple of months there will be. Bound to. People just can't think sensibly. I hear Merseyside is going into partial lockdown before weekend. Higher figures than Birmingham. That's almost 1/6 of the entire population of the UK and it's no coincidence it's just a couple of weeks after the Bank Holiday.
I can't see it. I think the risk to the economy is too great for Boris. I think we'll stick with local lockdowns and just have a lot of them.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm

Will you still be able to drive round the country to test your eyesight?

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:23 pm
I can't see it. I think the risk to the economy is too great for Boris. I think we'll stick with local lockdowns and just have a lot of them.
If they aren’t proper local lockdowns they won’t make a difference though, not one of the local lockdowns at the moment will be having much impact.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
Will you still be able to drive round the country to test your eyesight?
Sure. And visit restaurants for a 3 course meal to test your mouth it still working.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by DCWat » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:27 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:20 pm
100%, so many idiots attend A&E when the really really shouldn’t.
I’m not sure if it’s still there, for a while, there was a huge sign outside BRI telling people what an emergency was.

Made **** all difference, I don’t think.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:28 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:27 pm
I’m not sure if it’s still there, for a while, there was a huge sign outside BRI telling people what an emergency was.

Made **** all difference, I don’t think.
Nope, because unfortunately a vast majority of the public are selfish / thick or both.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mealdeal » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:32 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:28 pm
Nope, because unfortunately a vast majority of the public are selfish / thick or both.
It’s also because no other area of the NHS is operating normally, so people pitch up at A&E. All these lockdowns do is kick it down the road a bit more.I wear my mask in shops, socially distance and play by the rules, but it’s clear as day we can’t continue in this stasis like existence for an unspecified amount of time. The virus is endemic, so tough choices not involving lockdown need to be made. The problem is our political leaders aren’t brave enough to make them.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:33 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:32 pm
It’s also because no other area of the NHS is operating normally, so people pitch up at A&E. All these lockdowns do is kick it down the road a bit more.I wear my mask in shops, socially distance and play by the rules, but it’s clear as day we can’t continue in this stasis like existence for an unspecified amount of time. The virus is endemic, so tough choices not involving lockdown need to be made. The problem is our political leaders aren’t brave enough to make them.
I’m on about in non Covid times. People abuse A&E.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:34 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
Will you still be able to drive round the country to test your eyesight?
It's normally sooner than this, when some comedian makes this well worn joke, that wasn't funny at the time, even less so when you've heard it several hundred times
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Re: New Lockdown

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 pm

There won't be a national lockdown again, just every area of the country will be in "local lockdown".

Time to rise up people!
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Inchy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm

From what I’m seeing in my trust I would be shocked if we are not in lockdown soon

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 pm
Whilst I was in Greece last week you couldn’t go in shops without masks on, couldn’t go in my hotel without one on and all staff were wearing them too.

I’ve never got why staff in shops don’t have to wear a mask, defies sense.
You try wearing a mask for 8 hours and let me know your opinion after that about shop staff wearing one.

I wouldn't do it in my weekend job, I'd refuse.

It's easier for customers to wear one for 5-20 mins than it is for staff to wear one all day.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm

MRG wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:37 pm
Here it comes...

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire- ... XA3bqgGKdU
Nothing different to what we've had here for weeks, nothing like national lockdown, all shops, cafes, pubs etc open, all work places open, can travel anywhere you want.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm
You try wearing a mask for 8 hours and let me know your opinion after that about shop staff wearing one.

I wouldn't do it in my weekend job, I'd refuse.

It's easier for customers to wear one for 5-20 mins than it is for staff to wear one all day.
I wear one when I go into work, all day. As do the other 8000 people on site.

You’d refuse cos you’re selfish.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by mealdeal » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:45 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm
From what I’m seeing in my trust I would be shocked if we are not in lockdown soon
Well go on then, let’s have it what are you seeing?

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Vintage Claret » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:45 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm
No surprise when you've got lines of perfectly healthy people queueing opposite Tesco car park to be tested
https://www.burnley.gov.uk/news/get-cov ... o-symptoms

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
I wear one when I go into work, all day. As do the other 8000 people on site.

You’d refuse cos you’re selfish.
Yeah I'm exactly that despite working all the way through the pandemic in both of my jobs :lol:

Customers are in and out of shops within a reasonable amount of time yet you're calling shop workers the selfish ones.
Yeah that makes massive sense.

Some shop workers will wear protective items when on the shop floor, but it's not an unreasonable request to want customers to wear them for short periods of time.
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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Inchy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:40 pm
You try wearing a mask for 8 hours and let me know your opinion after that about shop staff wearing one.

I wouldn't do it in my weekend job, I'd refuse.

It's easier for customers to wear one for 5-20 mins than it is for staff to wear one all day.


I do, for 13 hours. Not the surgical masks either. A tight FFP3 mask. Also add goggles, full gown and gloves.


Wearing a surgical mask for 8 hours isn’t difficult. Surgeons do it all the time

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:55 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 pm
I do, for 13 hours. Not the surgical masks either. A tight FFP3 mask. Also add goggles, full gown and gloves.


Wearing a surgical mask for 8 hours isn’t difficult. Surgeons do it all the time
You're more likely to be in direct contact with an infected person, that's the risk you take in your job and you're already well aware of those risks.
Shop workers are less likely to be in contact with an infected person to the best of their knowledge.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Inchy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:57 pm

mealdeal wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:45 pm
Well go on then, let’s have it what are you seeing?


We went a long time with no covids in hospital. None in ICU. That isn’t the case now and isn’t the case in other hospitals.

It won’t come in a trickle. It will come in a wave

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:57 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 pm
Yeah I'm exactly that despite working all the way through the pandemic in both of my jobs :lol:

Customers are in and out of shops within a reasonable amount of time yet you're calling shop workers the selfish ones.
Yeah that makes massive sense.

Some shop workers will wear protective items when on the shop floor, but it's not an unreasonable request to want customers to wear them for short periods of time.
It’s not unreasonable for shop staff to wear them. It’s not like it’s hard work. Shop workers in Greece were wearing them in 30 degree heat but British snowflakes can’t cope? Give me strength.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:58 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:57 pm
We went a long time with no covids in hospital. None in ICU. That isn’t the case now and isn’t the case in other hospitals.

It won’t come in a trickle. It will come in a wave
Yep, we had 0 in last week, 15 today.

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Re: New Lockdown

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:58 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:57 pm
We went a long time with no covids in hospital. None in ICU. That isn’t the case now and isn’t the case in other hospitals.

It won’t come in a trickle. It will come in a wave
Paramedics who I chat with at the weekend are adamant it's going to hit the UK hard again, especially in the winter.

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