ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
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ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Not good news but not as bad as we thought
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https://www.uptheclarets.com/gudmundsso ... -as-feared
See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/gudmundsso ... -as-feared
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Well that's a bit better news. Really feel for Johan.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Hope he gets back soon, he does have some rotten luck.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
It probably helped that his own foot was off the ground
If it had been planted, there would have been no "give" and done more damage
If it had been planted, there would have been no "give" and done more damage
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Would have been very serious I think had his leg been planted.
Some other good news too - Ashley Barnes to play in both u23 games next week (Monday and Friday)
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I would not expect anybody from the club putting a recovery period on this, but for the more medically minded on here what is the norm for a medial ligament in terms ofrecovery time
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Well I've no idea but I have to say I was fearing the worst last night when I saw it again.warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:22 pmI would not expect anybody from the club putting a recovery period on this, but for the more medically minded on here what is the norm for a medial ligament in terms ofrecovery time
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
If its a a sprained MCL:
Recovery times differ depending on the severity of the injury: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports. A grade 2 tear can take from two to four weeks to heal.
Recovery times differ depending on the severity of the injury: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports. A grade 2 tear can take from two to four weeks to heal.
Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
two pieces of good news in a row Tony, that's nice
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Better news ,he does have some bad luck
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
May see him in december
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
This is hopeful. I always assumed these type of injuries took much longer to heal.claretblue wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:24 pmIf its a a sprained MCL:
Recovery times differ depending on the severity of the injury: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports. A grade 2 tear can take from two to four weeks to heal.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Those sort of timescales would be very positive. Any news on whether the Sheff Utd defender will be subject to any retrospective action? Did Dyche mention him in his interview?claretblue wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:24 pmIf its a a sprained MCL:
Recovery times differ depending on the severity of the injury: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports. A grade 2 tear can take from two to four weeks to heal.
Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Medial ligament recovery is 6 to 8 weeks. Not sure if that's longer with professionals that put a lot of strain on that area though.
Id guess any 1st team football before December would be a bonus.
Id guess any 1st team football before December would be a bonus.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Must support Kate R-Tony you are doing a great job in lifting us in these difficult times. The news on Ashley and Johan keeps our spirits alive. Lets hope Ben is not far behind and that we pick up no new injuries or suspensions
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I doubt anything retrospective...that's only if the match officials hadn't seen an incident - they saw the tackle but (unbelievably) determined 'no foul'!JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:31 pmAny news on whether the Sheff Utd defender will be subject to any retrospective action? Did Dyche mention him in his interview?
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
There can't be any retrospective action. The referee saw it and didn't deem it worthy of a card. They can only take retrospective action if the officials haven't seen it.JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:31 pmThose sort of timescales would be very positive. Any news on whether the Sheff Utd defender will be subject to any retrospective action? Did Dyche mention him in his interview?
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Maybe Sean would have been better telling Garlick that JBG could be out for ages. That could actually be true anyway as I assume that we are still looking for rs wide man and the price will only go up now.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Perhaps a word with the assistant regarding an eye test or different career path. Much better news than I feared last night. Must be very frustrating for him and nothing to do, of course, with his fitness levels recently. Nearly 24 hours on and that challenge makes me see red, as it should have done for the assailant. Disgraceful.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I wouldn't pay too much attention to our injury bulletins. Dyche seems to make it up as he goes along.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Doesn't upset me in the slightest my coastal friend, I've learnt to just ignore it, like I do your bizarre obsession with me.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:04 pmis there anything about the club that doesn't upset you
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Trying to help someone who seems upset most of his time on here isn't an obsession. Still you have had some form of conversation now so at least it is progress.
Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I think the real good news from that story is that Ashley Barnes is now under 23
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Don't let the new hair fool you, he is 25
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Yes.Dyche said in his day it was just a strong tackle and would have probably been a yellow card.Today however, the way things are it should have been a straight red.JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:31 pmThose sort of timescales would be very positive. Any news on whether the Sheff Utd defender will be subject to any retrospective action? Did Dyche mention him in his interview?
I agree 100% with that, the guy should have gone and if we would have had VAR last night it would definitely have been a red card.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
December 2022 with our Guddy though.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
When he recovers he'll be like a new signing along with Ashley.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I damaged my medial ligament fairly badly a couple of weeks ago playing football. The doc told me it would be about 6 weeks to recover. I'd like to think that an athlete like JBG could be back in full training in 4 weeks and ready to play again in 6. Here's hoping, I was certainly expecting worse.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I was out last night so didn’t see the challenge. Could only find one clip of it online and the angle I saw looked like he tripped, slipped and his momentum took him in to JBG. Not a red for me on that one viewing.
Also didn’t think it would be as serious as some feared. Hopefully the caution we’ve shown in bringing him back will pay off, although given how cautious we are with players returning from injury it wouldn’t surprise me to see him out for 6 months
Also didn’t think it would be as serious as some feared. Hopefully the caution we’ve shown in bringing him back will pay off, although given how cautious we are with players returning from injury it wouldn’t surprise me to see him out for 6 months
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Relief, great relief. He really does deserve better luck. It will be great to see Barnsey back as well.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Tierney again.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:49 pmThere can't be any retrospective action. The referee saw it and didn't deem it worthy of a card. They can only take retrospective action if the officials haven't seen it.
Remember the penalty he didn't give at Huddersfield. The only one in the ground who thought it wasn't a penalty when the keeper tapped Hendricks ankle?
Dyche asked Tierney after why he didn't give a penalty. He said he thought he lost his footing. Yes he did when the keeper took his foot away from under him.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Stood there shouting ‘No contact’ time and again at Jeff Hendrick. Awful decision. He’s another shocker of a referee.Stayingup wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:03 pmTierney again.
Remember the penalty he didn't give at Huddersfield. The only one in the ground who thought it wasn't a penalty when the keeper tapped Hendricks ankle?
Dyche asked Tierney after why he didn't give a penalty. He said he thought he lost his footing. Yes he did when the keeper took his foot away from under him.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
The incident at Huddersfield was the first thing I thought of.
Perhaps he suffers an occasional sight affliction that only manifests when we're playing?
Perhaps he suffers an occasional sight affliction that only manifests when we're playing?
Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
How do we know that the officials saw the incident? No free kick was given - did they say after the match that they'd seen it?
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Pleasing to heat that Guddy won't be out as long as feared, and both Ash and Ben might be available soon, add that trio to our matchday squad, and we'll look an awful lot stronger, still need a couple of additions though just to give the squad some depth.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
We shouldn’t really complain, as it’s the same for every club we’ve lost JBG for a couple of months from our 15 man squad and Man City have lost Aguero for a similar period of time from their 50 man squad.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
That just about sums it upBleedingClaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:39 amWe shouldn’t really complain, as it’s the same for every club we’ve lost JBG for a couple of months from our 15 man squad and Man City have lost Aguero for a similar period of time from their 50 man squad.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I think you may be on your own with that mate
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
I've just watched this back and some observations that I hadn't picked up on at the time.
1. The assistant could not be better positioned, he's looking straight at it and he doesn't even threaten to wave his flag.
2. The referee eventually re-started the game with a throw in so therefore no foul seen by him either.
There is no way on earth that the assistant will say he hasn't seen the incident, it is impossible for him not to have done. It's just clear that they've completely got it wrong.
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3. The game was held up for just over four and a half minutes. Under normal circumstances in a game I would expect there to be two minutes to be added on at the end of the half with a goal having been scored. That would suggest there should probably have been six or seven minutes added in total. Tierney added three minutes so apart from him and the assistant not being able to see the obvious, he's not very good at timekeeping either.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Wonder what the logic is with these decisions? So the referee makes a complete ballsup so thats compounded by not rectifying afterwards!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:49 pmThere can't be any retrospective action. The referee saw it and didn't deem it worthy of a card. They can only take retrospective action if the officials haven't seen it.
Linesmen are a waste of time nowadays, scared to make a decision on their own it seems.
So, from my 1st viewing on tv, top of Longside, that tackle looked really reckless, how can these buffoons not see it from a few yards away?
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
He's a quality player when fit but he's just not fit often enough, sadly. Hopefully he'll be back sooner rather than later.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Couple of pics here show how far away the assistant is from the incident. He never wavered, no suggestion of any movement of his left arm. How on earth does he not even see it as a foul?
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His latest injury is nothing to do with him not being fit often enough!williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:12 amHe's a quality player when fit but he's just not fit often enough, sadly. Hopefully he'll be back sooner rather than later.
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Looks like the player saw #kickitout and thought it meant JBG's legs.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:13 amCouple of pics here show how far away the assistant is from the incident. He never wavered, no suggestion of any movement of his left arm. How on earth does he not even see it as a foul?
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
If the assistant doesn't even see that as a foul then I'll question how on earth he's ever got into a position to the run the line at any level of football. That's not a mistake, just a total lack of understanding of the game.
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A lot of hope on here for JBG. Unfortunately there are many occasions with all athletes when the body just can't cope any longer with the vigorous demands. I fear this is another example. Even if this injury clears fairly quickly, there's another just waiting to happen. I said at the start of the season that both Brady and JBG will not be available for selection within one month. JBG lasted 10 minutes, will shall see about Brady
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Re: ARTICLE: Guðmundsson injury not as bad as feared
Yes, would need to see it again. View I saw was from behind, albeit all the commentary seemed to be adamant it was a red.
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