• Tarks injury

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:25 pm**

According to Jeff Stelling, Tarkowski is doubtful for tomorrow's game.

I thought it was nothing major.

Or is it just SKY getting it wrong?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:26 pm**

If there is a risk of aggravating it, he should sit.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:06 pm**

Must admit I have my suspicions because

he played every minute last season
he was the only missing first teamer on Thursday after a week of rumours that clubs were interested in him and one had made an offer
no mention of any injuries prior to Thursday
on Thursday we read it was nothing major and had it been a PL game, he would have started
today we hear he could be a doubt when we know it takes something major for him not to declare himself fit

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:12 pm**

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:06 pm
Must admit I have my suspicions because

he played every minute last season
he was the only missing first teamer on Thursday after a week of rumours that clubs were interested in him and one had made an offer
no mention of any injuries prior to Thursday
on Thursday we read it was nothing major and had it been a PL game, he would have started
today we hear he could be a doubt when we know it takes something major for him not to declare himself fit

We'll find out tomorrow, according to Sean it was just precautionary that he missed the SU game, but you do have to wonder given all the speculation about his future in recent weeks.

On the other hand, if he's got a slight niggle, then it makes sense not to risk him, he's one of our key men, and we can ill afford to lose him for a lengthy period, especially with Ben Mee already side-lined.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:59 pm**

Can you have a ‘slight niggle’ with a sore toe? It’s either sore or it isn’t.

If he really does want to join West Ham then it’s purely down to money (not blaming him for that) as he stands no better chance either winning anything or becoming an England regular.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:05 pm**

Do professional footballers not just have painkilling injections on broken toes and play? I’m sure Les Ferdinand once played the majority of a season doing this?

I’m aware we’re not sure what the issue is but I’m thinking that or an ingrowing toenail are the favourites

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:06 pm**

What’s interesting to me is that West Ham keep bidding for him. They must have received some encouragement from his agent to do so, because if he had no interest in going there why would they bother?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm**

kaptin1 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:06 pm
What’s interesting to me is that West Ham keep bidding for him. They must have received some encouragement from his agent to do so, because if he had no interest in going there why would they bother?

Or they’ve had no encouragement but want him so keep offering more money hoping we accept

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm**

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:59 pm
Can you have a ‘slight niggle’ with a sore toe? It’s either sore or it isn’t.

If he really does want to join West Ham then it’s purely down to money (not blaming him for that) as he stands no better chance either winning anything or becoming an England regular.

Oh I don’t know Declan Rice is an England regular, and I think he’s well below the standard

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:19 pm**

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm
Or they’ve had no encouragement but want him so keep offering more money hoping we accept

Doesn’t matter if we accept if the player doesn’t want to move there. We can’t force him to go. But fact that West Ham are going up in small increments which are seemingly well below our asking price suggests to me they might be hoping the player forces a move.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:23 pm**

When west spam reach £40 million I bet the board will sell...if he doesn't play tomorrow then you have to believe he is leaving us sadly.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:26 pm**

Thing is, now is exactly the time we should be looking to sell him. He’s just had a great season, is at peak age and has two years left on his contract. We’ll never get a better price for him than now. But the Gibson situation has thrown a spanner in the works by leaving us with no natural replacement and with a Mee injured too we risk being forced to overpay for a replacement. We need one CH in before we let one go.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:29 pm**

Hes out with a stubbed toe. He was meant to play midweek

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:40 pm**

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:29 pm
Hes out with a stubbed toe. He was meant to play midweek

I really do hope you are correct.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:02 pm**

kaptin1 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:26 pm
Thing is, now is exactly the time we should be looking to sell him. He’s just had a great season, is at peak age and has two years left on his contract. We’ll never get a better price for him than now. But the Gibson situation has thrown a spanner in the works by leaving us with no natural replacement and with a Mee injured too we risk being forced to overpay for a replacement. We need one CH in before we let one go.

This...

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:09 pm**

I thought someone, possibly CT, on the Sheff Utd match thread the other night, said that if the cup game had been a league match then Tarks would have played. Has that changed any since then.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 pm**

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:29 pm
Hes out with a stubbed toe. He was meant to play midweek

I'm trying my hardest to believe this

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:16 pm**

Add to all the comments above-he lost the captaincy in the recent friendly a week ago, and you start to wonder if the club is pulling the wool over our eyes

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:20 pm**

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:16 pm
Add to all the comments above-he lost the captaincy in the recent friendly a week ago, and you start to wonder if the club is pulling the wool over our eyes

My hunch is that while negotiatiions are ongoing he's not going to play, the possible buyer(s) won't want him cup-tied.
But my other hunch is that we won't receive a decent enough offer to sell him.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:21 pm**

Believe John Pender has signed a one month emergency deal and is available tomorrow.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:23 pm**

And mark winstanley?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:25 pm**

I'll plait sawdust if he's still with us next week

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:25 pm**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:23 pm
And mark winstanley?

Top 4 is on!

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:28 pm**

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:25 pm
I'll plait sawdust if he's still with us next week

That's the easy option, try weaving custard, ha ha.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:28 pm**

Just heard West, Johnrose and Weller have rung Barnes to see if he can pick them all up so they can come in for a medical

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:34 pm**

The club could easily have said 'not for sale' to West Ham and saved them keep coming back time after time. You can only assume the reason they haven't is that they want to draw a bigger player - probably Leicester - into the market.

They seem more likely to be able to come up with a deal that appeals to both club and player

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 pm**

EarbyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:34 pm
The club could easily have said 'not for sale' to West Ham and saved them keep coming back time after time. You can only assume the reason they haven't is that they want to draw a bigger player - probably Leicester - into the market.

They seem more likely to be able to come up with a deal that appeals to both club and player

They can’t say not for sale ( if this release clause exists ) all they can do is tell them they’re not offering enough

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 pm
I'm trying my hardest to believe this

If you watched the sheff utd game it was mentioned in the commentary. And also that long would likely partner mee on sunday
Fantasy team says 75% chance of playing due to stubbed toe
Go figure

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:12 pm**

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm
If you watched the sheff utd game it was mentioned in the commentary. And also that long would likely partner mee on sunday
Fantasy team says 75% chance of playing due to stubbed toe
Go figure

They can only repeat what they are told.
Could be fact, could be fiction

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:15 pm**

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm
If you watched the sheff utd game it was mentioned in the commentary. And also that long would likely partner mee on sunday
Fantasy team says 75% chance of playing due to stubbed toe
Go figure

They only go off what the club tells them . He could well have an injury then again he might not

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:18 pm**

If we are starting with Long and Dunne tomorrow then I really do despair that we have come to this. I am sorry for any disrespect but, good grief , we are a premier league team that finished 10th last season on the strength of our stability in defence - we just can’t start the next season with 2 back up CHs, can we ?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:21 pm**

Bobzuruncle wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:18 pm
If we are starting with Long and Dunne tomorrow then I really do despair that we have come to this. I am sorry for any disrespect but, good grief , we are a premier league team that finished 10th last season on the strength of our stability in defence - we just can’t start the next season with 2 back up CHs, can we ?

Well if both of your first choice centre backs are injured then you’re always going to be starting with two back up centre backs.

Hopefull he’ll be fit to play tomorrow. Totally understandable that Dyche didn’t want him to play in the league cup with a minor injury.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:22 pm**

Didn't Dyche play defence? He could fill in just until the next transfer window.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:22 pm**

Bobzuruncle wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:18 pm
If we are starting with Long and Dunne tomorrow then I really do despair that we have come to this. I am sorry for any disrespect but, good grief , we are a premier league team that finished 10th last season on the strength of our stability in defence - we just can’t start the next season with 2 back up CHs, can we ?

Should our best 2 central defenders be injured in November I doubt anyone would expect us to have better 3rd and 4th choices.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:22 pm
Should our best 2 central defenders be injured in November I doubt anyone would expect us to have better 3rd and 4th choices.

but not at the start of the season

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:30 pm**

Bobzuruncle wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm
but not at the start of the season

That's my point. It's just bad luck that we can't move until we get enough money for Tarky.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:44 pm**

Hel play

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:47 pm**

IF it’s a case of Tarks angling for a move we need to hold firm and get the price that we want.And our manager has to be given the full profit (after Brentford’s cut) to spend on the team...If this doesn’t happen Garlick is taking the ?i55

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:55 pm**

If Tarks stays and Mee patners him when fit , we need a very good back up ie Dawson, Jones,Bennett of Wolves and then Long as back up. Not necessarily them but this level.

If Tarks leaves we need two-a very good CH to start ie Dawson, a back up and a fit Kevin Long

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:42 pm**

If he is on his way and it is amicable enough, would you still play him? Or, would you play Jimmy Dunne? I would play Tarky until he is sold. Every point is precious.

Edit: but not if he is going to Leicester

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:50 pm**

Mark Noble out of the West Ham team tonight with a toe injury.

Swap deal?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm**

Duffer_ wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:42 pm
If he is on his way and it is amicable enough, would you still play him? Or, would you play Jimmy Dunne? I would play Tarky until he is sold. Every point is precious.

Edit: but not if he is going to Leicester

What if he stubs his toe for real, and the deal breaks down?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:53 pm**

What on earth is going on. CT said he would have played V Blades if it had been a league match. Wishful thinking CT ?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:43 pm**

Is Tarko doing to us what he did to Brentford?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:46 pm**

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:43 pm
Is Tarko doing to us what he did to Brentford?

Yes

If you believe all the doom mongers on here (including me...)

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:30 pm**

Pre-transfer mock injuries are almost always toes.

Not something so you have to prove it, but possibly bad enough to stop you playing.

Toes, the perfect pre-transfer mock injury. Ask Danny Ings.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:52 pm**

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:50 pm
Mark Noble out of the West Ham team tonight with a toe injury.

Swap deal?

Both players, or just their toes?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:14 pm**

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:05 pm
Do professional footballers not just have painkilling injections on broken toes and play? I’m sure Les Ferdinand once played the majority of a season doing this?

I’m aware we’re not sure what the issue is but I’m thinking that or an ingrowing toenail are the favourites

I think that may well be true re Ferdinand, but it turned out to be his final season and he never played again after that! Can't think why???

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:40 pm**

Well does anyone know if he’s on the bus today and whether or not he was at the ground on Thursday?

Posted: **Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:41 pm**

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:40 pm
Well does anyone know if he’s on the bus today and whether or not he was at the ground on Thursday?

Hes been and had his mop chopped

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