PS5
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:12 am
A little surprised I haven't spotted a topic on this already. Has anyone else pre-ordered the PS5? Or have you opted for the Xbox Series X? Only a couple of months to wait.
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X box series x hopefully pre order on Tuesdaywilliamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:12 amA little surprised I haven't spotted a topic on this already. Has anyone else pre-ordered the PS5? Or have you opted for the Xbox Series X? Only a couple of months to wait.
Very nice! Have you always preferred Xbox? I did give it a look (isn't it the more powerful console of the two?) but the PS exclusives are just too persuasive for me overall.
I use to have a play station 2 then a few people I know got an x box so I followed suite had one ever since . I think the xbox series x just slightly beats the ps5 with performance, spec etc . I suppose its a choice of preferencewilliamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:19 amVery nice! Have you always preferred Xbox? I did give it a look (isn't it the more powerful console of the two?) but the PS exclusives are just too persuasive for me overall.
I won't pretend to know a lot about this -- hopefully someone more tech-savvy than me can provide a good answer. However, my understanding is that the PS5 is a lot more powerful which allows game developers more freedom in terms of what they can do when designing games. Here's a comparison of the specs if that's of interest: https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps5-v ... comparisonQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:17 amWhat can it do that the PS4 can't?
It's mind blowing how far these gaming technologies have come in 30 years.
Like I say its a choice of preferencewilliamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:28 amI won't pretend to know a lot about this -- hopefully someone more tech-savvy than me can provide a good answer. However, my understanding is that the PS5 is a lot more powerful which allows game developers more freedom in terms of what they can do when designing games. Here's a comparison of the specs if that's of interest: https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps5-v ... comparison
Agree that video games have come very far. I remember being astonished seeing Star Fox on Nintendo for the first time!
Specs are all good and well but it's about games and Sony will be bringing new games to the table way early then Xbox.
I have a 4K TV but it's 44 inch and we sit 3 meters away from it. It's way too small for the distance. Thinking of upgrading to a 65-inch TV. Will maybe wait for Black Friday and see if I can snag the LG C9 OLED for cheap. Otherwise the Sony X900H is supposed to be excellent and will probably be more affordable.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:41 amForgot to add, my boys have the One X, so I suspect they'll get the new Xbox.
If they do I'll go have a play on theirs to see how it is.
Whatever one I get, I'll also be getting a better TV, I don't even have 4k yet.
I'll be going to chat to the same lad in Curry's who sold me the TV for my boys.williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:53 amI have a 4K TV but it's 44 inch and we sit 3 meters away from it. It's way too small for the distance. Thinking of upgrading to a 65-inch TV. Will maybe wait for Black Friday and see if I can snag the LG C9 OLED for cheap. Otherwise the Sony X900H is supposed to be excellent and will probably be more affordable.
I would test it out before buying.williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:53 amI have a 4K TV but it's 44 inch and we sit 3 meters away from it. It's way too small for the distance. Thinking of upgrading to a 65-inch TV. Will maybe wait for Black Friday and see if I can snag the LG C9 OLED for cheap. Otherwise the Sony X900H is supposed to be excellent and will probably be more affordable.
I hope for your sake your lad is different from the other lads that work in Currys.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:58 amI'll be going to chat to the same lad in Curry's who sold me the TV for my boys.
I went to buy them a Samsung, but he convinced me the cheaper Panasonic was a better option, due to the quality of the HDMI port and in all fairness, its been a brilliant TV for gaming.
3m away you're really looking at projector size displays to make the most of uhd but a 65" will certainly be a big improvement. The lg c9 is a 2019 model, end of life now replaced by the cx.williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:53 amI have a 4K TV but it's 44 inch and we sit 3 meters away from it. It's way too small for the distance. Thinking of upgrading to a 65-inch TV. Will maybe wait for Black Friday and see if I can snag the LG C9 OLED for cheap. Otherwise the Sony X900H is supposed to be excellent and will probably be more affordable.
Brilliant, thanks for all the info. Certainly some food for thought! My plan is to purchase on Black Friday which is after PS5 has been launched. Fingers crossed I find a good deal and a good match for the console!superdimitri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:07 pmI hope for your sake your lad is different from the other lads that work in Currys.
3m away you're really looking at projector size displays to make the most of uhd but a 65" will certainly be a big improvement. The lg c9 is a 2019 model, end of life now replaced by the cx.
The sony x900h is called xh9005, xh9006, xh9096 or even xh9205 depending where you buy it from in the UK. It's a new 2020 model. It's a poor choice for the new consoles as despite promised support for hdmi 2.1 it only reaches around 800 nits peak brightness which is far below recommended for hdr. It's predecessor the xf9005 made two years ago got brighter and was a better overall TV. If you decide on an LCD TV instead of oled you're better off looking at Samsung, Q80T or higher. The more you spend, the better hdr will be.
To give you an idea of the minimum you need for a true hdr TV:
LCD TVs need about 1000 nits minimum, 1500 is preferred. If you don't reach this amount you'll get problems in some titles with the picture being washed out, or being too dim.
Oled TVs, well any is good enough with hdr, they all reach around 600-700 which is fine when you have per pixel dimming and better blacks and contrast.
Unfortunately the downside to this new tech is prices are higher and higher. So the starting price for a 55" TV for use with one of the new consoles is likely going to be around 1k. With better models being more expensive.
As with anything, don't buy the TV before the console either or you'll get stuck with something you can't return if it doesn't play ball. It's best to wait to buy anyway when TVs are currently priced so high.
Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:08 pmCan anybody help? My lad fancies the new Microsoft Flight Sim game that's out..I know this is due to be released on Xbox as well as PC. He's looking to upgrade his current Xbox one. Would it be worth buying the new Xbox or possibly a gaming PC? I've heard these can be very costly?
What position do they play and could they do a job for us ?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:22 pmMicrosoft have just announced they're buying Zenimax /Bethesda.
Just seen that. I'm a huge fan of Wolfenstein and Fallout so this news concerns meGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:22 pmMicrosoft have just announced they're buying Zenimax /Bethesda.
You're best waiting to upgrade to one of the new consoles now since they are just on the horizon. Will be cheaper than a pc. Only thing is you might have to wait for the game a little longer and also wait to purchase s joystick.Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:08 pmCan anybody help? My lad fancies the new Microsoft Flight Sim game that's out..I know this is due to be released on Xbox as well as PC. He's looking to upgrade his current Xbox one. Would it be worth buying the new Xbox or possibly a gaming PC? I've heard these can be very costly?
My launch-day PS4 begs to differ, must have had thousands of hours of play time between me and the kids and it’s still going strong.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:21 pmnot me, i've never bought a first generation of any new gaming system, they will be riddled with issues
Interestingly I had the reverse, my PS3 failed numerous times and had to go back for repair, whereas my XBox One X is fantasticclaret2018 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:32 pmMy launch-day PS4 begs to differ, must have had thousands of hours of play time between me and the kids and it’s still going strong.
My 360 on the other hand went through several repairs and replacements during its life cycle
yeah same here with the XBOX 360 which is why I then got a PS4 - but at the time the forums were full of the PS4 having over heating issues at launch.claret2018 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:32 pmMy launch-day PS4 begs to differ, must have had thousands of hours of play time between me and the kids and it’s still going strong.
My 360 on the other hand went through several repairs and replacements during its life cycle
It's a bit wider than that, this is a massive aquisition. They are buying ZeniMax media which includes all of the following. They also bought BioWare a little while ago, so Xbox Series X will be the place to go for RPG's this generation:williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:09 pmJust seen that. I'm a huge fan of Wolfenstein and Fallout so this news concerns me
God of War was incrediblejedi_master wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:57 pmI have one pre ordered.
PlayStation has the best games that are exclusive to the system, that’s been a fact going back almost two decades at this point. Xbox is cheaper but you get what you pay for when it comes to the games.
If all you play is Call of Duty, FIFA etc (I.e, games on all platforms) then I’d go for an Xbox as it’s cheaper. If you want really stunning, adult, emotional storylines such as The Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War etc, then you get a PlayStation.
The other factor to consider is that if you have a PC, there is basically no point getting an Xbox whatsoever. You can pay £10 a month and get Xbox Gamepass and play every single exclusive Xbox game day and date on your PC with no need for Xbox hardware.
...they're not on amazon.Jambounchained wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:16 pmManaged to pre order one on Amazon, really looking forward to it.
Microsoft really look to be struggling for decent exclusives IMO, although now they’ve purchased Bethesda that could all change.
soooooooooooo to get the best out of the new consoles you need a tv with hdmi 2.1 and there are very few about at the moment that aren't well over-priced- it's another reason i'm holding back on everything, the technology is about to changesuperdimitri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:07 pmI hope for your sake your lad is different from the other lads that work in Currys.
3m away you're really looking at projector size displays to make the most of uhd but a 65" will certainly be a big improvement. The lg c9 is a 2019 model, end of life now replaced by the cx.
The sony x900h is called xh9005, xh9006, xh9096 or even xh9205 depending where you buy it from in the UK. It's a new 2020 model. It's a poor choice for the new consoles as despite promised support for hdmi 2.1 it only reaches around 800 nits peak brightness which is far below recommended for hdr. It's predecessor the xf9005 made two years ago got brighter and was a better overall TV. If you decide on an LCD TV instead of oled you're better off looking at Samsung, Q80T or higher. The more you spend, the better hdr will be.
To give you an idea of the minimum you need for a true hdr TV:
LCD TVs need about 1000 nits minimum, 1500 is preferred. If you don't reach this amount you'll get problems in some titles with the picture being washed out, or being too dim.
Oled TVs, well any is good enough with hdr, they all reach around 600-700 which is fine when you have per pixel dimming and better blacks and contrast.
Unfortunately the downside to this new tech is prices are higher and higher. So the starting price for a 55" TV for use with one of the new consoles is likely going to be around 1k. With better models being more expensive.
As with anything, don't buy the TV before the console either or you'll get stuck with something you can't return if it doesn't play ball. It's best to wait to buy anyway when TVs are currently priced so high.
Hopefully you won't be one of them https://www.polygon.com/2020/9/18/21445 ... e-day-sonyJambounchained wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:16 pmManaged to pre order one on Amazon, really looking forward to it.
Microsoft really look to be struggling for decent exclusives IMO, although now they’ve purchased Bethesda that could all change.
They were on Amazon but sold out very quickly.tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:20 pm...they're not on amazon.
You haven't ordered an Xbox One X have you?
I think he's on about the ps5tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:28 pmJust been told by my brother they're not available for pre-order until 8am tomorrow... check what you've ordered
I know! I'm just referring to the games I particularly like that are affected! Not too fussed about Elder Scrolls, for example. As you say, it's a massive acquisition.Steddyman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:35 pmIt's a bit wider than that, this is a massive aquisition. They are buying ZeniMax media which includes all of the following. They also bought BioWare a little while ago, so Xbox Series X will be the place to go for RPG's this generation:
ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American video game holding company based in Rockville, Maryland, and founded in 1999. The company owns id Software (developer of the Doom, Quake and Rage series), Arkane Studios (developer of Dishonored and Prey), MachineGames (developer of the Wolfenstein series),[3] Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within),[4] publisher Bethesda Softworks with its Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls and Fallout series) and ZeniMax Online Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls Online). On September 21, 2020, Microsoft announced they entered into an agreement to acquire ZeniMax Media and all its subsidaries for $7.5 billion.
Yeah, you are. They have the same CPU. The GPU is less powerfull, but that is because it only has to drive 1440p not 4k. There is a Digital Foundry interview with CodeMasters this week on Dirt 5 and he clearly states that the development is the same for both, with the lowerspec GPU perfectly suited to the lower resolution.claret2018 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:11 pmI’d like a ps5 but everywhere has sold out
I wouldn’t be opposed to getting an Xbox, but the fact they’ve released a “mini” version with lower specs makes me think the game developers will have to optimise Xbox games for the lower system settings. I might be talking rubbish though.
Basically, yeah.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:20 pmsoooooooooooo to get the best out of the new consoles you need a tv with hdmi 2.1 and there are very few about at the moment that aren't well over-priced- it's another reason i'm holding back on everything, the technology is about to change
That makes sense. I’m probably better with the cheap Xbox then as my tv isn’t 4kSteddyman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:31 pmYeah, you are. They have the same CPU. The GPU is less powerfull, but that is because it only has to drive 1440p not 4k. There is a Digital Foundry interview with CodeMasters this week on Dirt 5 and he clearly states that the development is the same for both, with the lowerspec GPU perfectly suited to the lower resolution.