Ings on the mark for Saints, more misery for Jose and Spurs, following 2 disallowed Kane goals, and a disallowed Ings effort.

Rangers 1 down at Hibs, Scotty starting for the Gers.

Spurs are dreadful

1 all. Could write it

Not too shabby that Tottenham goal though.

Hendrick starts for Newcastle again in their home game against Brighton.

2-1 spurs, a brace for Son. Straight from the KO, Saints hit the bar, there'll surely be more goals in this one.

2-1 Rangers, the 2nd scored by Scotty.

Son nets 3rd

Son Heung-min - what a day he’s having. Four goals.

Four for son, well done son !

Hibs level vs Rangers. Come on Hibs.

Thought Spurs were awful until they equalised just before half time. Now 5-1 up and some downright bad defending from Southampton.

Still 5mins plus left on S coast.
Time to get really embarrassing yet.

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:44 pm

Still 5mins plus left on S coast.
Time to get really embarrassing yet.

Has Kane scored 1 and assisted the other 4? Good for people in FPL who have him, if so.

Another nonsense of a penalty decision

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Has Kane scored 1 and assisted the other 4? Good for people in FPL who have him, if so.

He has. But Son will have more points with four goals.

The handball rule has been ruined

Outrageous decision.
These rules are bloody stupid.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Has Kane scored 1 and assisted the other 4? Good for people in FPL who have him, if so.

Yep.
That's how it's gone.

Ridiculous decision. His arm was already outstretched when the ball hit it.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Another nonsense of a penalty decision

This is what people wanted, including a few on here, referee's discretion taken out of whether a handball is deliberate or not.

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:48 pm

Outrageous decision.
These rules are bloody stupid.

One given like that at Man U yesterday but one just the same turned down at Arsenal. No consistency but they are not penalties.

You’re going to end up with people aiming to hit arms and defenders having to sellotape their arms to their sides.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:50 pm

One given like that at Man U yesterday but one just the same turned down at Arsenal. No consistency but they are not penalties.

Didn't see the Arsenal game, but saw the one at OT.
Not quite as 'stupid' as the Saints one, but bad enough.
The game really is being ruined. From what I've spent a lifetime playing/watching, anyway.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Has Kane scored 1 and assisted the other 4? Good for people in FPL who have him, if so.

22 points for Son today.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:50 pm

One given like that at Man U yesterday but one just the same turned down at Arsenal. No consistency but they are not penalties.

The Arsenal one hit him on the shirt sleeve, that's why it wasn't given.

Typical Kane, Son nets 4, and yet Harry still tries to claim the match ball.

I hope Southampton defend this poorly when they visit the turf next week. Our forwards will have a field day.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:55 pm

The Arsenal one hit him on the shirt sleeve, that's why it wasn't given.

But none of them are penalties - absolutely nonsense of a rule in my view

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:59 pm

But none of them are penalties - absolutely nonsense of a rule in my view

I agree, but this is what happens when you try and make the law consistent and remove referee's discretion from the decision making.

Peno to Brighton at Newcastle.

Scored.

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:55 pm

22 points for Son today.

18 for Kane. Anybody with both has had a bumper day so far.

Spurs didnt look to special for most of the first half but with Moura/Kane/Son always looked likely they'd score a few irrespective of general play. Saints playing a high line and speedy players moving onto decent through/over passes. Harry netted a couple in the first half that were disallowed for others being just offside earlier in the move & saints seemed to be coping then but it all went pear shaped in 2nd half.

Foulthrow wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:52 pm

You’re going to end up with people aiming to hit arms and defenders having to sellotape their arms to their sides.

You could be pretty much spot on with that.
It's not hard to see someone like Pulis, for instance, finishing training with a half hour kicky-ball-to-hand without it being too obvious..
Whoever dreams these crap rules up ought to be made to cut the grass of a full size pitch with a pair of kitchen scissors every Saturday afternoon.

Toon 0 Brighton 2

2-0 Brighton.

I don't think Newcastle had been in Brighton's half until they were 2-0 down.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:03 pm

I agree, but this is what happens when you try and make the law consistent and remove referee's discretion from the decision making.

Spot on

Brighton don't look like relegation candidates so far on this performance.

If the arm is extended from the body when it hits then it is a penalty every time. That's the rules since the start of last season. We didn't moan when we got a penalty last season v Bournemouth? 'Natural body shape' does not include outstretched arms.

Just because some people believe football was better 'back in t'day' doesn't mean they are not really penalties. The modern game is so much faster and athletic and the advent of video freeze framing with the inevitable media focus has meant the rules had to adjust.

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:22 pm

Brighton don't look like relegation candidates so far on this performance.

No they don't. And Newcastle looking poor, haven't got going yet.

Jamal Lewis not looking quite as good this week in defence. Shows how poor the Hammers were.

Hendrick having to play as an auxiliary full back, didn't take long.

There is some serious pace in this Brighton team.

£1.6M Lamptey cost !

Sick note is on, he's only got 13 minutes to get through.

Newcastle are dreadful. Hendrick as touched the ball just twice in the 2nd half and Newcastle have created nothing

Don't see Brighton being near the bottom this season

It's a good job there are fans in St James Park today

We are the next team due at St James Park. It will be interesting to compare our performance with that of Brighton.

Chelsea down to 10 men

Tough call that. In slow mo I think you can see that mane was never going to reach the ball before kepa cleared it... But I can see why its been made a red.

Definite red card for me, almost a rugby tackle on a player running through on goal.
Is it me or is Carragher's scouse accent getting worse. I'm struggling to understand half of what he says.