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hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:47 pm
by kenyon6923
could not care a less about Millwall - for just a much needed morale boost we need to find a huge performance against Southampton.
Far too early for a 6 pointer but to get some much needed positivity on board just huge we get something. The air is currently frustration bordering on anger in places - a win would at least restore faith and morale.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:48 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Most of them need games for fitness though.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:57 am
by MT03ALG
I agree, especiallly with City in the next round

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:06 am
by Gordaleman
MT03ALG wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:57 am
I agree, especiallly with City in the next round
Gate receipts would be good against City though! Oh, wait a minute.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:11 am
by Silkyskills1
This week would test any team; three games in six days including a long trip to South London with a threadbare squad. Agree Saturday is the priority.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:14 am
by martin_p
Saturday is a long, long way from being ‘massive’.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Pep has just said they will play mainly lads from the academy against Bournemouth.

Could be a chance of a cup run after all.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:03 am
by bfcmik
The issue about playing the 'kids' is that the u23s have a Premier League 2 game v Newcastle on Friday and the u18s play at Manchester United in the Premier League u18s on Saturday. That means you can't play the u23s in the Millwall game as the kids couldn't play the u23 game on Friday and then be ready to play again the following day. Having moved up to Cat 1 status it would be irresponsible, at best, to overwork the youngsters by making them play twice in 48 hours. We are never going to consider playing the u18s in a competitive 1st team fixture either

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:53 am
by Vegas Claret
IF we play a pretty strong team I want to see McNeil in a free role like he did at Palace last season when he was superb

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:58 am
by Bordeauxclaret
I’ve just read that there is no standard Covid testing in the football league. I wonder if we’ve paid for Millwall players to be checked?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:37 am
by Wellsy1882
Saturdays not massive. Its the 2nd game
Put a strong team out get them seen off

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:51 am
by box_of_frogs
martin_p wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:14 am
Saturday is a long, long way from being ‘massive’.
I respectfully disagree. Every time we have been relegated from this league, it was because we lost games like these. Wins against the top 6/7 are just bonus points. Wins against the rest are the key to staying up.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:57 am
by martin_p
box_of_frogs wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:51 am
I respectfully disagree. Every time we have been relegated from this league, it was because we lost games like these. Wins against the top 6/7 are just bonus points. Wins against the rest are the key to staying up.
The stats don’t bear that out. In three of the four seasons we’ve stayed up we lost our first home game against teams exactly like Southampton (Swansea, West Brom and Watford).

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:24 am
by Herts Clarets
Points gained from the 6 other teams in the bottom 7 in our 2 relegation seasons:

2009/10 10/36 28% Relegated
2014/15 17/36 47% Relegated

And against the bottom 6 last season:

2019/20 26/36 72% 10th position

2009/10 we could have stayed up with the number of points we finished with, had we beaten Wigan and lost to Manchester United. Absolutely critical that we take points from the teams that are going to form the bottom few places, points from the top 6 are a bonus.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:52 am
by ClaretTony
Massive? It's the second game of the season.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:54 am
by Boss Hogg
I hope we put a strong team out against Millwall to try and win the tie. Weekend game is anything but massive.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:55 am
by ClaretTony
Herts Clarets wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:24 am

2009/10 we could have stayed up with the number of points we finished with, had we beaten Wigan and lost to Manchester United. Absolutely critical that we take points from the teams that are going to form the bottom few places, points from the top 6 are a bonus.
had we beaten Wigan and lost to Manchester United we would have still had 30 points and we would still have finished 18th and been relegated. All that would have happened is Wigan would have come down from 36 to 33 points, still three ahead of us but Manchester United would have won the league by two points instead of Chelsea who did win it by one point.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:56 am
by ClaretTony
Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:54 am
I hope we put a strong team out against Millwall to try and win the tie. Weekend game is anything but massive.
I do, would love to see us put out a strong team. It's getting more difficult with the injuries but it would be a real boost to get through another round.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:06 am
by Local cricketer
Peps already said he will be using the kids in this competition. So win on Wednesday and we will have a good chance against City. Thats if city beat Bournemouth

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:22 am
by Herts Clarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:55 am
had we beaten Wigan and lost to Manchester United we would have still had 30 points and we would still have finished 18th and been relegated. All that would have happened is Wigan would have come down from 36 to 33 points, still three ahead of us but Manchester United would have won the league by two points instead of Chelsea who did win it by one point.
My mistake, it was if we had beaten Wigan home and away and lost to Man Utd and Everton. Us and Wigan on 30 points, and in all likelihood we stay up on goal difference. The point being made is that as well as winning points, it matters who you take the points off.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:24 am
by ClaretTony
Herts Clarets wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:22 am
The point being made is that as well as winning points, it matters who you take the points off.
And that's what we've been good at in recent seasons where as we were rank bad in 2009/10. But for those two missed penalties (one saved, one wide) in the first two home games we'd have been relegated long before we were. That side was ill equipped for the Premier League.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:25 am
by Herts Clarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:24 am
And that's what we've been good at in recent seasons where as we were rank bad in 2009/10. But for those two missed penalties (one saved, one wide) in the first two home games we'd have been relegated long before we were. That side was ill equipped for the Premier League.
As i said: 2019/20 26/36 72% 10th position

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:40 am
by Quickenthetempo
Are people really expecting Southampton to finish in the bottom 6 while they have Ings up front there?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:38 pm
by box_of_frogs
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:24 am
That side was ill equipped for the Premier League.
Fortunately our successful recruiting over the past few windows has blessed us with a large squad of highly capable players :?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:40 pm
by ClaretTony
box_of_frogs wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:38 pm
Fortunately our successful recruiting over the past few windows has blessed us with a large squad of highly capable players :?
Blessed us with a squad capable of playing in the Premier League for five successive seasons

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:45 pm
by Dyched
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:24 am
And that's what we've been good at in recent seasons where as we were rank bad in 2009/10. But for those two missed penalties (one saved, one wide) in the first two home games we'd have been relegated long before we were. That side was ill equipped for the Premier League.
If we’re trying to rewrite history history to have a pop at how “bad” we were, thats do it the other way.

Had we beat Wigan we’d of stayed up.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:46 pm
by Vegas Claret
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:40 am
Are people really expecting Southampton to finish in the bottom 6 while they have Ings up front there?
did anyone expect Bayern to destroy Barcelona with Messi up front ?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:47 pm
by LoveCurryPies
Is the Millwall v Burnley match on TV? What channel?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:48 pm
by ClaretTony
Dyched wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:45 pm
If we’re trying to rewrite history history to have a pop at how “bad” we were, thats do it the other way.

Had we beat Wigan we’d of stayed up.
30 points suggest not good enough and we weren’t. Wigan, Wolves, Portsmouth, Blackburn, all took six points off us.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:48 pm
by Dyched
Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:46 pm
did anyone expect Bayern to destroy Barcelona with Messi up front ?
Bayern played Barcelona in a one off game.

Southampton will play 20 odd games against teams at their level or lower.

Bit different.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:50 pm
by Dyched
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:48 pm
30 points suggest not good enough and we weren’t. Wigan, Wolves, Portsmouth, Blackburn, all took six points off us.
Yes it’s there to see. But you were trying to rewrite history to take more points away from us by changing 2 results to reflect how bad we were. I simply changed half the amount of results you did and we stayed up.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:50 pm
by box_of_frogs
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:40 pm
Blessed us with a squad capable of playing in the Premier League for five successive seasons
Very true. Can you remind me how many fit 1st team capable midfielders we have available?

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:24 pm
by Leisure
LoveCurryPies wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:47 pm
Is the Millwall v Burnley match on TV? What channel?
Carabaocup.live

£10.

Re: hope the kids play at Millwall- Saturday massive

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:38 pm
by ClaretTony
Dyched wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:50 pm
Yes it’s there to see. But you were trying to rewrite history to take more points away from us by changing 2 results to reflect how bad we were. I simply changed half the amount of results you did and we stayed up.
Wasn’t trying to change any results, that was Herts. I just pointed out how different it had been if those two pens had been scored.