Who likes Boris?

[Damo]

TBF the bottom line always stops at if you are unsure check local guidance for clarification, prime minister or no prime minister how you can expect somebody to know district to district the exact rules which are changing on a daily basis is beyond me.

Theres a fairly simplistic map, showing districts with high rates of infection here...

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Or if he didn't have that to hand, he could have used the district according to who they voted for map from the last GE...

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[Jakubclaret]

Theres a fairly simplistic map, showing districts with high rates of infection here...
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Or if he didn't have that to hand, he could have used the district according to who they voted for map from the last GE...

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Or alternatively he could be a human being & more than capable of making mistakes as people naturally do I know I do.

[Devils_Advocate]

He's done you there Damo

[evensteadiereddie]

Well, Johnson's proved he's more than capable of making mistakes. His have caused deaths, misery and resentment. And you still make excuses for him, Jakub.

[fidelcastro]

Or alternatively he could be a human being & more than capable of making mistakes as people naturally do I know I do.

Your mother certainly did.

[aggi]

The speaker doesn't seem that keen either https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54352765

There was a lot of talk about statutory instruments and Brexit and how they may be used to skip parliamentary scrutiny (or SOVEREIGNITY as I believe it's known) so interesting to see this "trial run" of how the government have been implementing them.

[tiger76]

Yet more evidence that the people who implement the rules don't abide by themhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54369002

These actions will hardly inspire confidence in the proposed measures, and more importantly people complying with any such measures.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I see that “Leave.EU have had to apologise for calling Naz Shah a “grooming gang apologist”.

Hasn’t a poster on here been banging on about this repeatedly?

[AndrewJB]

I see that “Leave.EU have had to apologise for calling Naz Shah a “grooming gang apologist”.

Hasn’t a poster on here been banging on about this repeatedly?

Who would do a thing like that?

[Giftonsnoidea]

Maybe should just ask who likes being a prisoner who can’t socialise with their friends without being fined. He’s a massive T W A T

[aggi]

Yet more evidence that the people who implement the rules don't abide by themhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54369002

These actions will hardly inspire confidence in the proposed measures, and more importantly people complying with any such measures.

To be fair, neither of those two set the rules. I don't particularly agree with using Johnson's dad as a stick to beat him with (as long as he doesn't received any favourable treatment obviously) and none of the MPs, bar a select few, are currently in a position to have a say on the rules given the current emergency measures.

Still stupid of them though.

[Damo]

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Had symptoms so got on a train and went to Parliament.
Received a positive test result, so got on anther train and went to Scotland

[Damo]

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Had symptoms so got on a train and went to Parliament.
Received a positive test result, so got on anther train and went to Scotland

Life comes at you fast...

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[martin_p]

Yet more evidence that the people who implement the rules don't abide by themhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54369002

These actions will hardly inspire confidence in the proposed measures, and more importantly people complying with any such measures.

They don’t set the rules, both should be fined though.

[Rileybobs]

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Had symptoms so got on a train and went to Parliament.
Received a positive test result, so got on anther train and went to Scotland

It's unbelievable to think what actually goes through their heads. Even if they don't care about the health risks, surely they know that their actions will catch up with them.

[SammyBoy]

I see that “Leave.EU have had to apologise for calling Naz Shah a “grooming gang apologist”.

Hasn’t a poster on here been banging on about this repeatedly?

And paid damages for libel, I did think of a certain poster when I read that.

[thomaspaine]

He's a lying, cheating, inept halfwit. I really wanted to say what many of us really think about the buffoon but I'm in a good mood and so will go easy on him....... for one night only.

[tiger76]

To be fair, neither of those two set the rules. I don't particularly agree with using Johnson's dad as a stick to beat him with (as long as he doesn't received any favourable treatment obviously) and none of the MPs, bar a select few, are currently in a position to have a say on the rules given the current emergency measures.

Still stupid of them though.

No that's true they don't set the rules, but they are both high-profile public figures, and yet again many will feel rightly or wrongly that it's one rule for the masses and another for the elite.

As it happens I believe both parliament and local authorities should have much more of an input into these decisions, and I'm not that MP'S and council leaders are growing increasingly irked at what they perceive as restrictions being imposed on them, and not being explained in a thorough manner.

[tiger76]

Shot across the bows from the Tory MP'S? Certainly sounds like it.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/conservative- ... 8705.html

[Elizabeth]

The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him

[AndrewJB]

The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/tr ... val-rating

Not since early summer, according to this poll. He appears to have spaffed any goodwill people had for him up the wall.

[Burnleyareback2]

Err happy with him considering the hand he has been dealt

[Pimlico_Claret]

The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him

Keep reading the Daily Express.

[Wellsy1882]

Im goin to knock on for him tmoz

[Bordeauxclaret]

Do you think he’ll play out Cutsy?

[Wellsy1882]

Do you think he’ll play out Cutsy?

Im gunna call for his dad. Hes a better all round chap

[Bordeauxclaret]

See if he’s interested in some dodgy streams.

[Elizabeth]

Andrew , you have been on the end of some big defeats in the last year so I forgive you your exasperation

[AndrewJB]

Andrew , you have been on the end of some big defeats in the last year so I forgive you your exasperation

Fifty-seven percent of people think he’s doing a bad job. So it’s silly to say the country is behind him.

[Elizabeth]

I'm pretty sure you have put up similar arguments in the past which, when it came down to what really matters, proved impotent.

[Jakubclaret]

Fifty-seven percent of people think he’s doing a bad job. So it’s silly to say the country is behind him.

To be fair, we are slap bang in the middle of a pandemic I don't think anybody at the helm would be considered to be doing a good job in the circumstances, I'm surprised it's low at 57% which means 43% think he's doing ok, it's extradionary with brexit & Covid for the backing to be so high, when this tails off eventually it's fair to assume it's more than possible the 43% will spike the population will be more buoyant & confident about the future.

[AndrewJB]

I'm pretty sure you have put up similar arguments in the past which, when it came down to what really matters, proved impotent.

What argument? You pointed out the fact he won the election, and I’m pointing out the fact that nearly two thirds of people now think he’s doing a bad job.

Personally I think the thirty-five percent who think he’s doing a good job are brainwashed idiots, but that’s a different conversation.

[martin_p]

Not even Tory party members are behind him at the moment.

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[AndrewJB]

To be fair, we are slap bang in the middle of a pandemic I don't think anybody at the helm would be considered to be doing a good job in the circumstances, I'm surprised it's low at 57% which means 43% think he's doing ok, it's extradionary with brexit & Covid for the backing to be so high, when this tails off eventually it's fair to assume it's more than possible the 43% will spike the population will be more buoyant & confident about the future.

A cabinet of Diane Abbott’s would do a better job than this shower that you worship. There are massive cuts coming the way of red wall seats. Cuts to councils, cuts to benefits, and cuts to the furlough scheme. You’ll probably blame immigrants.

[Jakubclaret]

A cabinet of Diane Abbott’s would do a better job than this shower that you worship. There are massive cuts coming the way of red wall seats. Cuts to councils, cuts to benefits, and cuts to the furlough scheme. You’ll probably blame immigrants.

I do partly but in the wider context issues aren’t so simplistic as you make them out to be, the furlough scheme was always going to have an expiry date & it isn’t really ending as such as it’s being replaced with the job support scheme for people going on short time as a flexible furlough if you will. I don’t understand why you are unable to acknowledge/understand/recognise that nobody as asked for Covid & the damage & destruction the virus as caused, you just seem to blame BJ & the present government for everything even things out of there control, regarding the cuts to benefits I’m against benefits so I think that’s a good idea, genuine people I feel should receive benefits only, people who have worked here all their life’s & not people from outside who are abusing the system. The immigrants seem to have a better standard of life than people who have lived here & worked here all there life’s, can you not see thats wrong?

[Rileybobs]

The immigrants seem to have a better standard of life than people who have lived here & worked here all there life’s, can you not see thats wrong?

Yes. I can see that your entire post, in particularly the final sentence is wrong.

[FactualFrank]

The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him

And America is behind Trump. I'm not sure it means anything.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Boris was right on Marr this morning when he pointed out that this country is too fat - including him, and it puts us at far greater risk (the US is obviously worse, I'd like to see a graph of obesity by country vs Covid deaths - it obviously isn't the only variable but its a big one).

The thing I think has been missing from him is a dose of honesty - not the kind where he is telling porkies, the kind where he should be singling out the culprits in this social distancing which is obvious in the data but not talked about openly (youngsters on the lash and ethnic minority household mixing being two massive ones). Locking down whole towns because of the behaviour of sub-groups within them is the sort of thing that will gradually get people wound up. He needs to tell it like it is, even if it costs him votes in 4 years.

The reality is - if we were compliant as a country, as most of us are, we'd be ticking along just fine.

[aggi]

Seems party members aren't that keen on him either

[Spijed]

Boris was right on Marr this morning when he pointed out that this country is too fat - including him, and it puts us at far greater risk (the US is obviously worse, I'd like to see a graph of obesity by country vs Covid deaths - it obviously isn't the only variable but its a big one).

The thing I think has been missing from him is a dose of honesty - not the kind where he is telling porkies, the kind where he should be singling out the culprits in this social distancing which is obvious in the data but not talked about openly (youngsters on the lash and ethnic minority household mixing being two massive ones). Locking down whole towns because of the behaviour of sub-groups within them is the sort of thing that will gradually get people wound up. He needs to tell it like it is, even if it costs him votes in 4 years.

The reality is - if we were compliant as a country, as most of us are, we'd be ticking along just fine.

Well, you were defending the right of Americans not to wear face masks on the other thread, yet here you are saying these sub groups are to blame.

How can we be compliant if you don't think people should have to wear a face mask if they don't want to?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Another good day for the Government.

Still, I’m sure now is still not the time.

[AndrewJB]

In case anyone wondered what the government’s next steps are in all of this:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... c-22790194

[AndrewJB]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... every-home

Nationalising most of the internet infrastructure would have got around these issues, which mostly boil down to how much of the government’s £5 Billion investment the companies are allowed to keep as profit. A publicly owned internet would be too expensive, we were told, by a government that has spent £12 Billion on a track and trace system that is privately run by the wife of an MP, and is far from world beating. Recently it came out that it’s based on an excel spreadsheet, and due to Excel’s limitations, lost 16k Covid positive contacts, so was unable to track their potential contacts.

[aggi]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ut-PM.html

Man of the people Johnson struggling on his PM salary. Has to pay for his own food when entertaining friends. Can’t afford a nanny. So in tune with average working people.

He needs to get out and start clocking up the public speaking appearances. It's working for May

[kentonclaret]

"The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him"

Boris's approval rating has slumped from 46% in mid-March to less than 35% today.

It doesn't appear from those ratings that he still commands huge support as some would like to imagine.

[tiger76]

"The nation is still behind Boris whatever insults people feel they need to throw at him"

Boris's approval rating has slumped from 46% in mid-March to less than 35% today.

It doesn't appear from those ratings that he still commands huge support as some would like to imagine.

Even his own MP'S are losing patience now https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-s ... 0977.html

Too many false promises and not enough accountability it's no wonder we are where we are 8 months into this crisis, so much for the 'world-beating contact tracing system' which the PM himself promised, it's time heads started rolling and we got a grip on this virus, I'm not interested in talk we need action and we need it ASAP.

[Devils_Advocate]

no.10 considering new 'terrifying' Tier 4 proposals which means everything has to close apart from Wetherspoons

[tiger76]

no.10 considering new 'terrifying' Tier 4 proposals which means everything has to close apart from Wetherspoons

I know you're on the wind-up again DA, but as it happens my dad won't set foot in Wetherspoons now because he's disgusted with the way Tim Martin treated his staff during the initial lockdown, and in case anyone is wondering he's an avid brexiteer so it's not political with him.

[Devils_Advocate]

I know you're on the wind-up again DA, but as it happens my dad won't set foot in Wetherspoons now because he's disgusted with the way Tim Martin treated his staff during the initial lockdown, and in case anyone is wondering he's an avid brexiteer so it's not political with him.

You just have to be a semi decent person to have a problem with Tim Martin regardless of your politics

[tiger76]

You just have to be a semi decent person to have a problem with Tim Martin regardless of your politics

Yep he's not a good advert for capitalism that's for sure.