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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:50 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:42 pm
Yes I agree why would they risk £16m just for him to play tonight when they have a number of players that can play that position
One thing about Liverpool they get top dollar for all sales!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:54 pm

About a week ago some posters were suggesting the deal was all but done and couldn’t understand my reluctance in getting an article written. I don’t know whether it will happen at all but I think it is probably significant that he’s playing tonight.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:54 pm
About a week ago some posters were suggesting the deal was all but done and couldn’t understand my reluctance in getting an article written. I don’t know whether it will happen at all but I think it is probably significant that he’s playing tonight.
A few Liverpool fans seem to think it's so we up our bid. Although it's probably also in the hope he has an absolute belter and gets other teams interested too. Gut feeling though is that that's the end of it and we'll need to turn our attention to somebody else.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:54 pm
About a week ago some posters were suggesting the deal was all but done and couldn’t understand my reluctance in getting an article written. I don’t know whether it will happen at all but I think it is probably significant that he’s playing tonight.
Sounds like it’s done. We obviously aren’t budging on 12 plus 4 and obviously no others are close hence him playing tonight.

I know we don’t fritter money away, and we sensibly only pay what we think players are worth, but it’s critical we sign a winger, it’s the one place we are short.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:02 pm

It's quite unbelievable that anybody considered this was a signing that could happen. I mean come on, we're talking about a deal in the region of £15 million. Just what is it about our recent transfer dealings that led people to believe this was a goer? Craziness or wishful thinking? Probably a combination of the two.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:05 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:47 pm
AnfieldWatch have just reported that Leicester, Aston Villa, Fulham, Leeds, Newcastle and Southampton are all keeping an eye on him - although not sure if that's recycled information, as Leeds for instance were interested a while back, but now no longer appear to be.

All it takes is 1 other Premier League club to want him and it'll rule us out.
https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/leeds-an ... l-forward/

Their reporter seems to have made an assessment of him that is similar to mine.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:07 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm
Sounds like it’s done. We obviously aren’t budging on 12 plus 4 and obviously no others are close hence him playing tonight.

I know we don’t fritter money away, and we sensibly only pay what we think players are worth, but it’s critical we sign a winger, it’s the one place we are short.
A replacement for Gibson first priority, then a replacement for Lennon.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by warksclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:09 pm

Looks like this has gone cold. For me Josh King @ £10m is good value. He is quick, tough and a real handful. I can remember SD openly saying you cannot have enough strikers in your club. It would push Vydra down to 5th striker, but gives us serious striker cover in the event of injuries-when did we last have this ? . For me Vydra has had a very long run of games (since Ashley got injured). Sorry guys but he is not a game changer, and needs lots of opportunities to score. The goals he has scored have been mainly in the Cups. Now that Tarks is back and Mee to become available soon, it means we can start controlling games better. If we can keep clean sheets then with Wood, Barnes, Jay and Josh King you have got 4 game changers. Just one goal gets us the three points.

With Stephens and Westwood in midfield we have Josh & JBG shortly who can play on the right. No team would want to face any two of these four names

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:07 pm
A replacement for Gibson first priority, then a replacement for Lennon.
Winger more important for me. We are short there and 2 of them are made of glass.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:12 pm

Liverpool have probably a set price in mind and can’t be arsed messing around with us. We expect to be paid £40 million plus for Tarkowski and won’t budge but we expect selling clubs to accept our below market valuations.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:13 pm

I agree that RM is priority. CB isn't too far behind though.

Every man and his dog connected to Burnley must know these are the positions that need sorting. For JBG it's always a case of when, not if, he'll be injured.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:14 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:23 pm
Eliasson looks like a cross machine, would be great for Wood, how much would Bristol City want do you reckon?

I’m with LTL on this Wilson is a good player but very much a luxury player who we’d need to change formation for most likely.
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Granted, crosses don't always lead to goals, but he did notch up 12 assists, created 16 big chances and made 1.5 key passes per game. His long passing stat is a little troubling, but he has a lot of qualities that we could make use of and develop. I like the fact that he is two footed and effective on both wings.

https://www.sofascore.com/player/niclas-eliasson/316196

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by summitclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:16 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm
A few Liverpool fans seem to think it's so we up our bid. Although it's probably also in the hope he has an absolute belter and gets other teams interested too. Gut feeling though is that that's the end of it and we'll need to turn our attention to somebody else.
Or nobody.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:17 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:10 pm
Winger more important for me. We are short there and 2 of them are made of glass.
Isn't that the nature of wingers, Granny?

I've seen enough this season to believe that we really have to cover an injury or suspension at CB with better than we already have.
I feel a bit sorry for Jimmy Dunne, TBH, because he hasn't had the chance to play with either of our best CBs, he may be better than we have seen so far.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Hopefully by the time England play Wales on Thursday, the commentator will be saying Harry Wilson who has just signed for Burnley

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by summitclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:22 pm

We need both a first reserve cb (hopefully the next Tarks) and a right winger to ensure we stay up. Anything else is too risky. I'll take loan for the winger, if I have to, but the cb needs to be ours.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Isn't that the nature of wingers, Granny?

I've seen enough this season to believe that we really have to cover an injury or suspension at CB with better than we already have.
I feel a bit sorry for Jimmy Dunne, TBH, because he hasn't had the chance to play with either of our best CBs, he may be better than we have seen so far.
JBG and Brady are guaranteed to miss a large % of the season so yeah a RM is more important for me than a CB

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:30 pm
JBG and Brady are guaranteed to miss a large % of the season so yeah a RM is more important for me than a CB
What happened to that Nkudou lad we had on loan. He looked lively.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:39 pm

Starts tonight for Lpool

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Tarky going or staying will have had a huge bearing on incoming players regards fees and numbers.

But as Mile says, we aim to come out of windows stronger than we go into them, so should be a triple unveiling soon.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:44 pm

Shaqiri's omission from Liverpool's squad tonight is down to transfer interest from at least two clubs.

(via @neiljonesgoal)

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:45 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:44 pm
Shaqiri's omission from Liverpool's squad tonight is down to transfer interest from at least two clubs.

(via @neiljonesgoal)
Oh goodness please no

Rather have Shakira

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:46 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:44 pm
Shaqiri's omission from Liverpool's squad tonight is down to transfer interest from at least two clubs.

(via @neiljonesgoal)
Well if we've been turned down for Wilson, I can't imagine us going for Shaqiri.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:47 pm

MACCA wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:45 pm
Oh goodness please no

Rather have Shakira
I bet wilson wasn't going to play shaqiri was

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:46 pm
Well if we've been turned down for Wilson, I can't imagine us going for Shaqiri.
Like I just said wilson probably been drafted in last minute for shaqiri

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:33 pm
What happened to that Nkudou lad we had on loan. He looked lively.
He’s at Besiktas. Looked a mile away from being good enough to me.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Grumps » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:53 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:49 pm
Like I just said wilson probably been drafted in last minute for shaqiri
Exactly what's being said in Liverpool, two clubs interested in shaqiri so has been withdrawn from team.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:54 pm

Possible that him playing tonight is to try and push for as much money as possible? I can’t see him being on the bench for Liverpool this season. Although if he is to stay with them and we were in for him at the price quoted then I’d like us to go for Buendia instead

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:49 pm
He’s at Besiktas. Looked a mile away from being good enough to me.
He didn't get a lot of game time. i liked him.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:04 pm

Playing in a midfield 3 tonight

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:59 pm
He didn't get a lot of game time. i liked him.
Thats the problem with loan signings there chance to show what they can do might not be often

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:33 pm
What happened to that Nkudou lad we had on loan. He looked lively.
I can look lively, i'm not good enough for the PL though :D

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Burnley Ace » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:11 pm

Got it on in the background - 25 mins in and just heard his name.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:12 pm

he's just pumped an aimless ball into the box, looks perfect for us ;) :lol:
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Burnley Ace » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:18 pm

He seems to be playing in the centre

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:25 pm

He’s playing on the left , being bypassed much of the time by Milner Not a very useful shopwindow for him.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:29 pm

Yes he seems to have moved more into the centre now.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:59 pm
He didn't get a lot of game time. i liked him.
NKoudou? Did you? I thought he was quick but just ran round in circles offering precious little. He only started two games, both away at West Brom and Watford but wasn't at all impressed.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:32 pm

Not having the best of games tonight. Could do with a move away...
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by NewClaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:39 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:32 pm
Not having the best of games tonight.
Mike’s winding up the fax machine reducing our bid right now... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Claret Till I Die » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:51 pm

Leeds and Southampton interested in him now apparently

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:52 pm

He’s definitely playing the left of a midfield three.
Jota is playing on the wing.

Strange to play him out of position if trying to put him in the shop window

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:58 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:39 pm
Mike’s winding up the fax machine reducing our bid right now... :lol: :lol:
:lol:

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:12 pm

From the BBC website....

21:04

Wilson to leave?
Liverpool 0-0 Arsenal


Stephen Warnock

Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live


I think Harry Wilson will go out on loan or be sold. I don't see him having a future at Liverpool. He's not quite at that level.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:15 pm

Would rather we signed Harold Wilson

Even Mary !!!!!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:18 pm

completely unimpressed by him again tonight, there must be better available for 15 million..........like Cantwell from Norwich

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:29 pm
NKoudou? Did you? I thought he was quick but just ran round in circles offering precious little. He only started two games, both away at West Brom and Watford but wasn't at all impressed.
Fortunately we are all allowed to like whatever we choose, Tony.
What you see in a player is perfectly acceptable , fine with me..

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by bfcmik » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:22 pm

He was free to play tonight even if we were in serious negotiation for him. He gets some 'minutes in his legs' and doesn't become cup-tied either as we no longer have any interest in this year's competition.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:23 pm

Leeds are interested in every1
Will sign any1
Wont gel
Will crumble
Finish nowhere

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:18 pm
completely unimpressed by him again tonight, there must be better available for 15 million..........like Cantwell from Norwich
This is the problem with wingers:
when they're on it they look like world-beaters (a bit), when they are off they are shocking.
We don't know how lucky we are to have one really fine winger, two might be seen as excessive ;)

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