ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:40 pm

icu81b4 wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:33 pm
I read the same thing on a football message board!
Yes, I suppose I've probably been asking for that...but I couldn't care less whether you believe what I'm saying or not.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:40 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:30 pm
This may be a stupid question but when the takeover goes through, does anything happen with the existing sponsorship deals with Umbro and Lovebet?
no - business as usual for existing deals - though it is possible to buy yourself out of deals if you have something better lined up - Chelsea and Everton have done that previously.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by icu81b4 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:40 pm
Yes, I suppose I've probably been asking for that...but I couldn't care less whether you believe what I'm saying or not.
I apologise JT it wasn't really aimed at you or anyone.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Stevie Morgan » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:55 pm

Are ALK on with the owners and directors test?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by jedi_master » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 pm

I wish we had an understanding of what sort of finance they have behind them. It would be very interesting to have an idea of whether we will still be trawling for bargains from the lower divisions or whether we can seriously compete for the best from the Championship and abroad.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claretlegend » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:42 am
Very close is what I'm told too Jakubs Tash although, like you, I don't know what very close means in terms of business acquisition. Someone suggested to me a couple of days ago that you need to check with the lawyers are working late nights.

The Ducker piece in the Telegraph a couple of days ago looks accurate from what I've heard - I would suspect Ducker has picked that up from the Elkashashy/Farnell side. I've spoken to someone who is in contact with ALK and he also used the words very close.

Very exciting and great if it's not Farnell the plonker!

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pm

I'm hoping we can at least compete with the likes of Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Brighton etc when it comes to getting players in. Relatively recent examples of Southampton getting Che Adams and Villa getting Matty Cash simply because they could offer slightly more money and slightly higher wages was extremely frustrating.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:14 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pm
I'm hoping we can at least compete with the likes of Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Brighton etc when it comes to getting players in. Relatively recent examples of Southampton getting Che Adams and Villa getting Matty Cash simply because they could offer slightly more money and slightly higher wages was extremely frustrating.
Likewise. Would be great to see a few signings in January to give us a lift. Priorities for me would be a right-sided creative midfielder/winger to take some of the pressure from Dwight, and a pacey/strong right back. Ideally early in January, not the last day!

What a boost that would be heading in to the second half of the season.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:24 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 pm
I wish we had an understanding of what sort of finance they have behind them. It would be very interesting to have an idea of whether we will still be trawling for bargains from the lower divisions or whether we can seriously compete for the best from the Championship and abroad.
Presume the existing board are happy with the level of investment set to come in. Well we hope so anyway!

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:25 pm

claretlegend wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:03 pm
Very exciting and great if it's not Farnell the plonker!
Farnell remains a serious concern until such time as we know he’s gone away
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by MRG » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:54 am
We are not talking about different occasions at all - you have just got hold of the wrong end of the stick as I've said. I've explained what happened.
We are definitely taking about different occasions, another poster confirms it above. You thought it was happening then it didn’t and people have mentioned it a few times since. Football is a fickle business where it’s not done until it’s done

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:32 pm

MRG wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:28 pm
We are definitely taking about different occasions, another poster confirms it above. You thought it was happening then it didn’t and people have mentioned it a few times since. Football is a fickle business where it’s not done until it’s done
I know what I posted. I know what was said. I’ve explained it here. You can either choose to accept that what I’m saying is correct or you can continue getting it wrong.

If what you are saying is correct then it involves another poster and not me. It really is as simple as that. No more please, I’m not going to allow myself to be made out to be a liar when I’ve explained it.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:40 pm

Was this around the time Flood took became involved?

I think someone started a thread claiming we’d signed Lee. Where his name came from I’m not sure.
I think we did sign someone else the same day though.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by MRG » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:32 pm
I know what I posted. I know what was said. I’ve explained it here. You can either choose to accept that what I’m saying is correct or you can continue getting it wrong.

If what you are saying is correct then it involves another poster and not me. It really is as simple as that. No more please, I’m not going to allow myself to be made out to be a liar when I’ve explained it.
Hi Tony, I’m not making you out to be a liar, that’s certainly not my intention. The post I’m referring to is obviously just a different one, I think it’s the same one that the other poster also remembered. We have kind of digressed from the point anyway. My point is, things change in football very quickly.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:47 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:24 pm
Presume the existing board are happy with the level of investment set to come in. Well we hope so anyway!
I suspect only two of the seven directors will have had any real involvement in this given they have around 80% of the company.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:49 pm

page 80 ;)
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:25 pm
Farnell remains a serious concern until such time as we know he’s gone away
If ALK buy, surely that's the end of El Kashashy and Farnell though? Keeping my fingers crossed that the Telegraph report was correct on that front.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:00 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:30 pm
This may be a stupid question but when the takeover goes through, does anything happen with the existing sponsorship deals with Umbro and Lovebet?
I would have thought they'll be valid until the contract with them expires.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by MACCA » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:24 pm
Presume the existing board are happy with the level of investment set to come in. Well we hope so anyway!
Well £1 in investment into the team is far more than all of the current directors have invested in terms of "their money"

Once the board sell out, any fan who has attended for 1 season will have put more money into the club than the whole of the current board put together..

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:25 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:59 pm
If ALK buy, surely that's the end of El Kashashy and Farnell though? Keeping my fingers crossed that the Telegraph report was correct on that front.
I'm absolutely certain the Telegraph article is accurate. It was written by James Ducker who is an associate of James Fletcher who owns the PR company that Farnell uses. My first thought on reading it was that the info had come from Farnell who had learned he'd missed out. I've heard nothing since to suggest my first thoughts were anything but correct.

Nothing is done until it is done, but I'm confident (if confident is the right word) that we are likely to become American owned in the near future, although, of course, things can change. I just hope they don't change back in Farnell's favour.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:42 pm

if it happens at all, it may happen in February to avoid the January sales

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:44 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pm
I'm hoping we can at least compete with the likes of Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Brighton etc when it comes to getting players in.
I think that even if we can compete transfer funds-wise and wages-wise against those clubs, we will still be the least attractive club compared to them to potential signings.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by jedi_master » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:47 pm

If we do have money come January, it wouldn't surprise me to see some often linked players that Dyche clearly wants that we perhaps previously couldn't afford arrive.

Joakim Mæhle as an example.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Cajun » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:56 pm

Having waded through much of this thread to refresh my thoughts in recent days, don't want Farnell/ElKalashashy anywhere near the club; feel far more confident in the Pace / ALK set up especially with Pace's previous sports links and MLS success. Can't find any reference to ElKalash having the slightest interest in sport in his life previously besides going for a swim. League position could be a concern for attracting potential recruits in Jan, so really is a big incentive to get points on the board.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:57 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:44 pm
I think that even if we can compete transfer funds-wise and wages-wise against those clubs, we will still be the least attractive club compared to them to potential signings.
Based on what? Genuine question.

Recent involvement in Europe? Highest recent league placings? Geography? Playing for a highly rated young manager?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:26 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:44 pm
I think that even if we can compete transfer funds-wise and wages-wise against those clubs, we will still be the least attractive club compared to them to potential signings.
That's the spirit!

Need to up your game though, you forgot to mention "The Orient Game" just make sure we all know our place.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by JohnMac » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:15 pm

There will hopefully be some catering benefits to having an ALK takeover
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:17 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:15 pm
There will hopefully be some catering benefits to having an ALK takeover

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I suspect that our potential new owners might not be into burgers themselves
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Post by 2 Bee Holed » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:17 pm
I suspect that our potential new owners might not be into burgers themselves
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo, not chicken! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:32 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:30 pm
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo, not chicken! :roll: :roll: :roll:
One chicken owner in East Lancs is enough thanks :D
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:17 pm
I suspect that our potential new owners might not be into burgers themselves
Kebabs then?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:44 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:39 pm
Kebabs then?
I wouldn't have thought so

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Zlatan » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:47 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:15 pm
There will hopefully be some catering benefits to having an ALK takeover

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what, no peas....? or gravy...?
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:50 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:47 pm
If we do have money come January, it wouldn't surprise me to see some often linked players that Dyche clearly wants that we perhaps previously couldn't afford arrive.

Joakim Mæhle as an example.
Craig Dawson as another.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by prettygreenclaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:52 pm

Meatloaf it is then!

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:17 pm
I suspect that our potential new owners might not be into burgers themselves
Popcorn and hotdogs brought to you in the stands at HT??

Top of my list on catering improvements would be some better beer though. So many decent local craft brewers to choose from...
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:45 pm

Beni & a Burger at half time, should be quicker to get served everyone asking for a B&B.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:47 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:59 pm
If ALK buy, surely that's the end of El Kashashy and Farnell though? Keeping my fingers crossed that the Telegraph report was correct on that front.
My fear all along has been that EK & CF didn't want to actually win, they want to lose in a style more suited to Donald Trump and claim they have been duped !
It may not be the last we hear from them.

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Post by AndyClaret » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:57 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:50 pm
Craig Dawson as another.
Signed for west ham.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:00 pm

AndyClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:57 pm
Signed for west ham.
And?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:12 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:57 pm
Based on what? Genuine question.

Recent involvement in Europe? Highest recent league placings? Geography? Playing for a highly rated young manager?
Small Northern town, small club (capacity wise), not the highest wages, quite often favourites for relegation, outsiders view of us possibly being a racist area/club, lack of recognition by the press and TV, the view held by many (including some of our fans) that it'll be the end of Burnley if/when the manager leaves, etc. But of course I could be (and hope that I am) wrong. ;)
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:14 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:26 pm
That's the spirit!

Need to up your game though, you forgot to mention "The Orient Game" just make sure we all know our place.
Afraid that you've lost me there?

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Post by ClaretAL » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:33 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:12 pm
Small Northern town, small club (capacity wise), not the highest wages, quite often favourites for relegation, outsiders view of us possibly being a racist area/club, lack of recognition by the press and TV, the view held by many (including some of our fans) that it'll be the end of Burnley if/when the manager leaves, etc. But of course I could be (and hope that I am) wrong. ;)
That's the spirit!
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Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:39 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:33 pm
That's the spirit!


So what do you think makes us an attractive proposition if we were in competition with Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Aston Villa and Brighton etc?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:39 pm
So what do you think makes us an attractive proposition if we were in competition with Southampton, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Aston Villa and Brighton etc?
We’re Burnley - simple.
Just think about this, wherever you go on holiday you ALWAYS see a Burnley shirt. Can you honestly say you remember seeing any shirt of one of the above teams ever because I can’t.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:46 pm

snapcrackleandpop wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm
We’re Burnley - simple
If only it was that simple it would be great! :D
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Post by Leisure » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:54 pm

snapcrackleandpop wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm
We’re Burnley - simple.
Just think about this, wherever you go on holiday you ALWAYS see a Burnley shirt. Can you honestly say you remember seeing any shirt of one of the above teams ever because I can’t.

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But how would that have a positive impact on a potential signing??

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Post by snapcrackleandpop » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:56 pm

It wouldn’t I was just having a little bit of fun.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by DCWat » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:57 pm

If we are competing on wages and salaries, as was the original comparison, why do we need to compete in other areas, aside from being able to sell ourselves to prospective players.

All the areas mentioned have some terrible places in and around them. Aside from Villa and Newcastle, I don’t think we get significantly less press than the others.

It’s up to us to sell ourselves and be competitive, not just in terms of salary or transfer fees. I think our own PR is lacking but hopefully that’s an area that new owners will address.

Some may perceive us as racist - others will have watched Ben Mee and seen something very different.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:04 pm

Some people revel in the “everything is **** mentality” and it’s prevalent in many posts on this thread.

Many factors will affect the club a player chooses and so if the pay is the same we’ve as good of a chance as anybody.

Look at Andre Gray, he chose us over a big city club in Bristol, we have beaten other clubs to players multiple times.

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