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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by MACCA » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:20 am

Fretters wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:06 am
We could do with an omnibus version of this thread, a weekly catch up on a Sunday or something.

Monday 30th November.

Good morning its Macca for the Burnley bulletin, where I bring you all the news from the last 7 days regards out takeover.

There is no news.

Well that's all from me, enjoy your week, and I'll see you all same time, same place next week.
Here's Colin with the weather where you are.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by MRG » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:42 am

Could today be the day?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:25 am

page 86.....


I feel like the geordie guy from Big Brother :lol:
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:15 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:25 am
page 86.....


I feel like the geordie guy from Big Brother :lol:
Why don't you just let CT have your number and ask him to call you if owt happens!? :D In fact, why don't we all do that!!??

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am

Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:34 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am
Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.
Succinctly put, but absolutely correct! (Unfortunately)

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:52 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am
Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.
Can't argue with that and even then it might not be enough. Very stale, forlorn and depressingly predictable since the new season strated.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Mala591 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:53 am

Even if ALK did pour money in to try and avoid relegation, why would the ‘real quality’ players that we need want to play for us?

I just can’t see this ‘takeover’ working from any angle unless a new manager with new ideas (and quality player contacts) is appointed.

I like Dyche and appreciate the miracles that he has performed but I think he is terminally frustrated with the lack of investment and maybe a little bit bored and needs a ‘new challenge’.

If ALK do takeover then I expect the changes throughout the club will be far more radical than most of us expect.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:01 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am
Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.
I still think we'll have enough to finish above Fulham, Sheff U & West Brom. Anyway that's a bit off topic.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:39 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am
Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.
That's a very certain statement..... you should sell everything you own and put it on at the bookies. You'll have twice as much as you have now by May if you're right.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:41 am

MACCA wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:20 am
Monday 30th November.

Good morning its Macca for the Burnley bulletin, where I bring you all the news from the last 7 days regards out takeover.

There is no news.

Well that's all from me, enjoy your week, and I'll see you all same time, same place next week.
Here's Colin with the weather where you are.
Make sure you save this post MACCA

Will come in handy for the Jan transfer window thread :o

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:45 am

Mala591 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:53 am
I just can’t see this ‘takeover’ working from any angle unless a new manager with new ideas (and quality player contacts) is appointed.
Well I suppose you can't please everyone.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:46 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 am
Unless the takeover happens and funds are available to strengthen in January we will be relegated.
You can't beat a bit of confidence. I can't be bothered looking back but I bet you said the same thing when we had the poor start two years ago.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:47 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:58 pm
Maybe last day of November will see the announcement! Pretty confident after just seeing Clive Holt outside the Turf main entrance wearing a cowboy hat, draped in the American flag and supping from a bottle of bud.
Thank you. At least something has given me a smile this morning.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by BurnleyPaul » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:47 am
Thank you. At least something has given me a smile this morning.
It might have made you smile Tony but I’m feeling positively nauseous at that image... :lol:
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:01 pm

BurnleyPaul wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:58 pm
It might have made you smile Tony but I’m feeling positively nauseous at that image... :lol:
Probably me too :D
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Aclaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:02 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:58 pm
Maybe last day of November will see the announcement! Pretty confident after just seeing Clive Holt outside the Turf main entrance wearing a cowboy hat, draped in the American flag and supping from a bottle of bud.
That's good, I had nightmares of seeing Clive Holt wearing a fez and doing the Sand Dance.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:04 pm

like groundhog day this thread

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:13 pm

Any of the in the know posters got any updates on when this will be concluded?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by dsr » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:20 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:02 pm
That's good, I had nightmares of seeing Clive Holt wearing a fez and doing the Sand Dance.
I dare say I'm asking for too much information - but was he Wilson, Keppel, or Betty? :o

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Aclaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:27 pm

🤣 I don't suppose it really matters dsr

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:04 pm
like groundhog day this thread
And will probably end in the same way as our last three transfer windows.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Spartan Claret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:05 pm

If the takeover happens and funds become available - I think Sheffield United spent 45 Million -plus loan deals in the summer transfer window and look how that has affected them - just saying ;)

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Zlatan » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:10 pm

We don’t necessarily need new blood (I know we ultimately do), what we actually need is for the behind the scenes in fighting to stop - if the takeover means all things fall into line and people start pulling in the same direction, I think that will be enough for us. Then going forward, we can rebuild.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:12 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:10 pm
We don’t necessarily need new blood (I know we ultimately do), what we actually need is for the behind the scenes in fighting to stop - if the takeover means all things fall into line and people start pulling in the same direction, I think that will be enough for us. Then going forward, we can rebuild.
The infighting has clearly had an effect
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:13 pm
Any of the in the know posters got any updates on when this will be concluded?
When all the documents have been signed and it’s all been agreed by the Premier League I would say.

Or how long is a piece of string?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:15 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:13 pm
Any of the in the know posters got any updates on when this will be concluded?
Nothing, any poster can say on here that will speed it up.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by scouseclaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:16 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:13 pm
Any of the in the know posters got any updates on when this will be concluded?
There are no in the know posters - just varying degrees of ignorance.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:29 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:16 pm
There are no in the know posters - just varying degrees of ignorance.
Speak for yourself
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How much could the t/over price differ ??

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:20 pm

Between a premiership status club and a relegated (so future championship club) ?? Million/s ?
Or do buyers pull out because the profile / prestige / tv money becomes unattractive ??

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:20 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:25 am
page 86.....


I feel like the geordie guy from Big Brother :lol:
I'm quite looking forward to page 87.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by levraiclaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:16 pm
There are no in the know posters - just varying degrees of ignorance.
You talkin bout me?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55131356

Seems a crazy time to be buying the smallest PL football club. I hope they know what they’re letting themselves in for.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by HB Claret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:45 am

In all reality I get that the top 6 create the revenue and talk of a breakaway European super league is often mentioned. Slightly off topic as this is a thread about the takeover of the club we all love but actually I wouldn’t be too bothered if the Big 6 left. We will clearly never be able to compete with them on finances and the gulf in class will only get bigger. There is another thread about do you enjoy watching Burnley - and bring an exile my chances are limited so yes I do love watching them but Saturday was painful and made me realise that sadly we can’t hope to match the big 6. The so called bigger clubs call the shots, more often than not get the border line decisions and yet their managers are constantly complaining and crying foul . I have supported Burnley for nearly 60 years, never thought I would see us in the Premier League but I want us to have a reasonable chance of competing.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Charlton Boy » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:24 am

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:27 am

I think the aim will be for completion on 2nd February 2021. We can then save money by not servicing the fax machine this year.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Carnsmerry12 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:28 am

Agree 100% with the comments made by HB.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:35 am

I think a bit more to it than that HB with respect. I’m only only posting the link as it came out today.
I’m surprised that the expansion of European football is so lucrative tbh as it just leads to more pointless matches but that’s where it’s heading. They won’t ‘breakaway’ but reduction to 18 teams very possible in the near future.
It’s more the potential of dwindling PL income and uncertain financial landscape that might send the shivers up the spine of investors, but they would have given it due consideration.
Maybe the fact we are debt free is our saving grace re: investment, but it’s slightly worrisome as we are caught between a rock and a hard place. I just hope our investors have a fully costed plan for the EFL because we’ll be squeezed out eventually, one would imagine.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Burnley87 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am

What I love about the so called big 6 is most of them 15 years ago hadn’t even won a premier league let alone many trophies between them.

Who knows who the next Big 6 will be, Villa, Leeds, Leicester, Everton. 15 years a lot can change... speak to most of these clubs
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by fatboy47 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:51 am

Burnley87 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am
What I love about the so called big 6 is most of them 15 years ago hadn’t even won a premier league let alone many trophies between them.

Who knows who the next Big 6 will be, Villa, Leeds, Leicester, Everton. 15 years a lot can change... speak to most of these clubs

I remember the big two.


Us and Spurs.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:54 am

Burnley87 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am
What I love about the so called big 6 is most of them 15 years ago hadn’t even won a premier league let alone many trophies between them.

Who knows who the next Big 6 will be, Villa, Leeds, Leicester, Everton. 15 years a lot can change... speak to most of these clubs
That's a good point and should certain mega rich owners decide to take a serious backward step or change their priorities some clubs would suddenly find they are no longer a member of this big 6 club and be quickly shown the exit door. It would be hilarious if the owner(s) at City for example suddenly decided they did't want to bother any more and moved on. Also I think it's also fair to say that the "support" for these clubs is now very "global" and to me that's not necessarily as good as it sounds as it's not focused or as reliant on their traditional supporting heartlands close to the club and "traditional" supporters can feel alienated. Everything becomes about football tourists and armchair supporters in China and Thailand or wherever and that means these clubs are also far more vulnerable to a downturn in fortune.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by IanMcL » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:10 am

Perhaps, in a short time, there will be a breakaway, TV based Euro league, with all our 'big 6' in there rather than the prem. Possibly just one in or out, at most. Probably none.

The remaing clubs would form the prem, with top championship clubs making whatever number they decide.

Would that still bring in the TV?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:28 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:06 am
they could increase turnover by lowering the prices and filling the stands
Really! 1) We're probably the cheapest prices already in the PL. 2) ST prices haven't risen for about 8 years. 3) Just where do you think that these extra fans will come from?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:33 am

Charlton Boy wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:24 am
Is Farnell still in the running? There is a very interesting TIK TOK video that's been made by his daughter doing the rounds... Burnley gets a mention...
No Linkey no Likey.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TVC15 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:04 am

Leisure wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:28 am
Really! 1) We're probably the cheapest prices already in the PL. 2) ST prices haven't risen for about 8 years. 3) Just where do you think that these extra fans will come from?
It’s a false economy too.
Even if we increased our average attendance by 2 or 3 thousand to get full capacity every week....and like you say these fans even existed....reduce the average prices by £50 a year to say £300.
That’s an extra £900k a year in come (3,000 x £300)
Less £850k in reduced income from 17,000 existing season ticket holders.
So best case scenario that we fill ground every week that’s £50k net gain - one week wage for one of our players !

And you would still never fill the ground for some games.

I accept completely that the any new owner will find new commercial opportunities for the club and these have nowhere near been maximised under the current stewardship....but I don’t really see much opportunity in our match day revenues....other than sorting our catering out to some kind of basic level of standard that fans are able to get a drink or two without missing 10 minutes of the first half !!

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Socrates » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:13 am

Burnley87 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am
What I love about the so called big 6 is most of them 15 years ago hadn’t even won a premier league let alone many trophies between them.

Who knows who the next Big 6 will be, Villa, Leeds, Leicester, Everton. 15 years a lot can change... speak to most of these clubs

United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs hadn’t won many trophies before 2005?

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Post by Socrates » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:20 am

Manchester United pre-2005

15 titles, 11 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, 2 European Cups, 1 Cup Winners Cup

Arsenal pre-2005

13 titles, 10 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, 1 Cup Winners Cup

Liverpool pre-2005

18 titles, 6 FA Cups, 7 League Cups, 5 European Cups, 3 UEFA cups

Spurs

2 titles, 8 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 1 Cup Winners Cup

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Zlatan » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:24 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:13 am
United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs hadn’t won many trophies before 2005?
I think the inference is that Chelsea and Man City have bought their success...

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TVC15 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:21 pm

Burnley87 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am
What I love about the so called big 6 is most of them 15 years ago hadn’t even won a premier league let alone many trophies between them.

Who knows who the next Big 6 will be, Villa, Leeds, Leicester, Everton. 15 years a lot can change... speak to most of these clubs
Premier League has been around now for 30 years now.
The ‘big 6” has hardly changed during that period - yes some of them have had blips in terms of performance on the pitch but that was simply the case of them making bad decisions with managers and in the transfer market - even if that meant they finished 10th they were still one of the big 6 in terms of every other metric.
And in terms of a timeline in this 30 years - for every new era of increased TV deals, overseas rights etc the “big 6” has got even bigger and further away from the rest of the league.
Even in those competitions where the big clubs will often not treat seriously till the latter stages have a look at which teams have won the FA Cup and the League Cup most often. Compare this statistic to the winners of these cup competitions prior in the last century for example where there were far more different winners and that’s just further evidence of the big 6 and their domination.

What I will accept is that we are now seeing a move to the ‘extremely huge 6”......followed by a cohort of clubs who could be classified as the next ‘big 5 or 6’......and then an increasing gap to the rest of the clubs. And clubs like Leeds and Everton etc sitting in that second tier may in time move into the top tier or swap places with the likes of Arsenal.

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