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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Zlatan » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:46 pm

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:53 pm

It will make 100 pages for sure

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:59 pm

I think people are beginning to post stuff for the sake of bumping up the page numbers now, like this one.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:00 pm

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:00 pm

...and this one.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:05 pm

Who would do such a thing?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by bfcjg » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:10 pm

Not me, that's for sure.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:16 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55131356

Seems a crazy time to be buying the smallest PL football club. I hope they know what they’re letting themselves in for.
That article sums up a good chunk of the MMT thread over the last 2 to 3 years (about 20% I would say)

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:10 pm

MRG wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:30 pm
https://youtu.be/jBcAYea5qNU
That has just confused the hell out of me, how is this relevent?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:25 pm

You have to wonder what's happening. DanielJWaterhouse was so much in the know that I thought it was him buying the club. He's not posted now for over 13 days on this thread. I wonder why.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:26 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:10 pm
That has just confused the hell out of me, how is this relevent?
Somebody mentioned earlier that there was a Tik Tok video mentioning Burnley and it was, I think, Farnell's daughter.

Suggesting his bid had won.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:25 pm
You have to wonder what's happening. DanielJWaterhouse was so much in the know that I thought it was him buying the club. He's not posted now for over 13 days on this thread. I wonder why.
Yes, it is rather annoying when somebody comes on and does a Wellsy.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:28 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:59 pm
I think people are beginning to post stuff for the sake of bumping up the page numbers now, like this one.
How does that work, ctu?

Did you choose your username, btw, as it's the reverse of UTC?
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:34 pm

It's 1st December today. I was thinking that should the club be taken over in 2020 I reckon it could be this month.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:34 pm
It's 1st December today. I was thinking that should the club be taken over in 2020 I reckon it could be this month.
Fair play for sticking your neck out and saying that. I've confidence, so think you'll be proven correct.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:46 pm

MRG wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:30 pm
https://youtu.be/jBcAYea5qNU
Well that's cleared a few points up!

:lol: :lol:

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:47 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm
Fair play for sticking your neck out and saying that. I've confidence, so think you'll be proven correct.
Only if it is this year - should it be any other year then I wouldn't be quite so confident selecting a month.

Being serious, I still think Ducker's report last week suggests it is curtains for Farnell and anyone he attaches himself to.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:47 pm
Only if it is this year - should it be any other year then I wouldn't be quite so confident selecting a month.

Being serious, I still think Ducker's report last week suggests it is curtains for Farnell and anyone he attaches himself to.

The clamour for this to be done also picked up speed once John Cross allowed himself to be fooled and rushed out his exclusive hat a deal had been signed.

Doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out which gob his info was supplied from

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:53 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:49 pm
The clamour for this to be done also picked up speed once John Cross allowed himself to be fooled and rushed out his exclusive hat a deal had been signed.

Doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out which gob his info was supplied from
John Cross - he was the one journalist who would force me to switch off Sunday Supplement.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:53 pm
John Cross - he was the one journalist who would force me to switch off Sunday Supplement.

Sunday Supplement only ever had any value for me if Neil Custis was on and someone upset him, his meltdowns are gold

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:00 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:54 pm
Sunday Supplement only ever had any value for me if Neil Custis was on and someone upset him, his meltdowns are gold
The Custis brothers were good entertainment but there were some journalists I enjoyed on there back to the likes of Paddy Barclay a few years ago to such as Oliver Kay and even Oliver Holt in more recent years. And a special mention for Jonathan Liew. One week the panelists were asked which team they would enjoy going to watch if they weren't working and he said Burnley.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:25 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:04 am


I accept completely that the any new owner will find new commercial opportunities for the club and these have nowhere near been maximised under the current stewardship....but I don’t really see much opportunity in our match day revenues....other than sorting our catering out to some kind of basic level of standard that fans are able to get a drink or two without missing 10 minutes of the first half !!
bingo.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:36 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:04 am
I accept completely that the any new owner will find new commercial opportunities for the club and these have nowhere near been maximised under the current stewardship....but I don’t really see much opportunity in our match day revenues....other than sorting our catering out to some kind of basic level of standard that fans are able to get a drink or two without missing 10 minutes of the first half !!
One of the problems we have is a limited number of corporate seats available on match days. There was talk of potentially building outside the Bob Lord Stand towards the cricket field end as they've done at the other end for the new offices. That would have provided a lot of space for corporate but they would then have to be housed in the stand for the match and there aren't enough seats available. I don't know how you would do it without some extensive work but there is a need for more availability. I'd agree with you on the non match day commercial opportunities.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Mala591 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:39 pm

IF we do get taken over by ALK or El-no-Kash then what will they do to improve the present situation?

A couple of new ‘quality’ players? A new chairman? Reduce the player’s wages? New training/coaching techniques? New scouting system based on computerised data?

What would YOU do in their position?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TVC15 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:36 pm
One of the problems we have is a limited number of corporate seats available on match days. There was talk of potentially building outside the Bob Lord Stand towards the cricket field end as they've done at the other end for the new offices. That would have provided a lot of space for corporate but they would then have to be housed in the stand for the match and there aren't enough seats available. I don't know how you would do it without some extensive work but there is a need for more availability. I'd agree with you on the non match day commercial opportunities.
Agree that there may be increased corporate hospitality opportunities but even this is limited as you say in terms of space but also probably in terms of demand - even if we doubled our income from this source it’s not massive amounts in the whole scheme of things. Not like Man United who have 15,000 corporate hospitality every home game !!

I was talking really more about our potential to increase the revenue from our fans. I don’t think increasing prices or reducing them would have much impact either way....you’d probably lose fans one way and not gain enough fans the other. I think if we increase capacity even to say 25,000 we would struggle to fill it most weeks.

The areas I assume any investors will see potential opportunities is in things like sponsorship and increasing our worldwide appeal. More commercial partnerships is another area of growth that I would expect. There are lots of things I see at Burnley which are similar to how Man City used to run their club when I involved there in my work capacity - unfortunately that’s not a good thing as it was probably going on for 20 years ago when they were a bit of a laughing stock in terms of how the club were run - especially compared to United at the time !!!

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:25 pm
You have to wonder what's happening. DanielJWaterhouse was so much in the know that I thought it was him buying the club. He's not posted now for over 13 days on this thread. I wonder why.
He got sick of being called a liar I imagine.

Unfortunately, as you will know, everyone who posts info on this site gets people calling them liars. Saying they're making it up etc..

It's not worth the hassle to be honest.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Claret Till I Die » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:18 pm

What page number are we on now ?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:19 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:53 pm
Agree that there may be increased corporate hospitality opportunities but even this is limited as you say in terms of space but also probably in terms of demand - even if we doubled our income from this source it’s not massive amounts in the whole scheme of things. Not like Man United who have 15,000 corporate hospitality every home game !!

I was talking really more about our potential to increase the revenue from our fans. I don’t think increasing prices or reducing them would have much impact either way....you’d probably lose fans one way and not gain enough fans the other. I think if we increase capacity even to say 25,000 we would struggle to fill it most weeks.

The areas I assume any investors will see potential opportunities is in things like sponsorship and increasing our worldwide appeal. More commercial partnerships is another area of growth that I would expect. There are lots of things I see at Burnley which are similar to how Man City used to run their club when I involved there in my work capacity - unfortunately that’s not a good thing as it was probably going on for 20 years ago when they were a bit of a laughing stock in terms of how the club were run - especially compared to United at the time !!!
Totally agree with all of that TVC15. I have no idea what plans potential new owners might have but we do have to start tapping into the wider commercial market with partnership and sponsorship.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:20 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:13 pm
He got sick of being called a liar I imagine.

Unfortunately, as you will know, everyone who posts info on this site gets people calling them liars. Saying they're making it up etc..

It's not worth the hassle to be honest.
He was making some stuff up, no doubt about that.

but in terms of people calling people liars, in terms of people abusing others views, I've said it that many times until I'm blue in the face that all you need to do is report the posts to alert us. In fairness, he's not slow in making unnecessary snide remarks either.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Grumps » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:13 pm
He got sick of being called a liar I imagine.

Unfortunately, as you will know, everyone who posts info on this site gets people calling them liars. Saying they're making it up etc..

It's not worth the hassle to be honest.
Or told not to question others, and banned from replying to others...

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:49 pm

Grumps wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:22 pm
Or told not to question others, and banned from replying to others...
Banned from replying to others? - not possible

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:52 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:18 pm
What page number are we on now ?
My favourite, 87.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:28 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:52 pm
My favourite, 87.
If you think 87 is your fave, wait until you see page 94.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Grumps » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:49 pm
Banned from replying to others? - not possible
You told me not to reply to any of your posts, so totally possible

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:39 pm

Grumps wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:29 pm
You told me not to reply to any of your posts, so totally possible
It’s not possible end of story and I asked you not to reply to mine because it was becoming totally tedious.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:40 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:13 pm
He got sick of being called a liar I imagine.

Unfortunately, as you will know, everyone who posts info on this site gets people calling them liars. Saying they're making it up etc..

It's not worth the hassle to be honest.
Agreed.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by mybloodisclaret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:39 pm
It’s not possible end of story and I asked you not to reply to mine because it was becoming totally tedious.
I had a period of time where when I tried to reply to others I got a message saying my IP was banned from posting replies. It seems to be working again now.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:45 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:44 pm
I had a period of time where when I tried to reply to others I got a message saying my IP was banned from posting replies. It seems to be working again now.
That’s nothing to do with the working of this message board. There is no facility to prevent replies.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:47 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:39 pm
IF we do get taken over by ALK or El-no-Kash then what will they do to improve the present situation?

A couple of new ‘quality’ players? A new chairman? Reduce the player’s wages? New training/coaching techniques? New scouting system based on computerised data?

What would YOU do in their position?
Reducing players wages will do wonders in a relegation battle! I’m sure they know that the immediate need is some reinforcements to the squad and maintaining our top flight status. The rest will hopefully follow after this is achieved like as pointed out above the need to improve us off the field in the commercial part of the club.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Grumps » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:39 pm
It’s not possible end of story and I asked you not to reply to mine because it was becoming totally tedious.
Is that your way of saying I was right to say I was banned from replying :lol: :lol:

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:50 pm

Grumps wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:49 pm
Is that your way of saying I was right to say I was banned from replying :lol: :lol:
Pathetic

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:24 pm

Tony can you block any posts that contain superfluous nonsense
I cant be doing with petty squabbles

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:33 pm

I hope something happens soon, this board needs something worth reading.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:36 pm

I cant believe all that has just been played out in full view for everyone to read, like a school yard at the moment.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:40 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:33 pm
I hope something happens soon, this board needs something worth reading.
Suggestions are that it will

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TVC15 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:44 pm

Come on CT - stop all this teasing and foreplay

Are we getting bought out by a consortium of Sly Stallone, Arnie Schwarzenegger and Tom Cruise or not ?
Simple yes or no and we can close down the thread

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:47 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:47 pm
Reducing players wages will do wonders in a relegation battle! I’m sure they know that the immediate need is some reinforcements to the squad and maintaining our top flight status. The rest will hopefully follow after this is achieved like as pointed out above the need to improve us off the field in the commercial part of the club.
New owners can't reduce players wages, they will be honoured according to their existing contracts.

Of course, if you've just spent up to £200 million to buy a club, you will want them to be successful. I'm sure there will be money for (1) new signings and (2) new contracts, including better wages for those players that the club needs to retain and build on.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:49 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:44 pm
Come on CT - stop all this teasing and foreplay

Are we getting bought out by a consortium of Sly Stallone, Arnie Schwarzenegger and Tom Cruise or not ?
Simple yes or no and we can close down the thread
I’m not teasing. I just think from last week’s info that Farnell & Elkashashy are out of the running. I do think the club will be sold because the major shareholders clearly want that. I doubt the three you mention will be involved but there was a Tom Cruise played for Arsenal a couple of years ago.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TVC15 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:49 pm
I’m not teasing. I just think from last week’s info that Farnell & Elkashashy are out of the running. I do think the club will be sold because the major shareholders clearly want that. I doubt the three you mention will be involved but there was a Tom Cruise played for Arsenal a couple of years ago.
I know !...and personally I’m very glad that Farnell will not be involved (if that is the case)

Good fact on Tom Cruise being an ex gunner too !

Think we are all just hoping for some positive news to come out of the club - or any news will do at the moment !

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:02 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:57 pm
I know !...and personally I’m very glad that Farnell will not be involved (if that is the case)

Good fact on Tom Cruise being an ex gunner too !

Think we are all just hoping for some positive news to come out of the club - or any news will do at the moment !
Agreed with that, been a **** start to Christmas as it stands so it would be just like our beloved club to turn that around by going deep in to sadville and then in to happy place.

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