ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:55 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:52 pm
Oh? So not beyond ridiculously far-fetched then?
I’ll say it again;

’Like I say, the idea that Dyche is in some way involved in the takeover is ridiculously far-fetched.’
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:55 pm
I’ll say it again;

’Like I say, the idea that Dyche is in some way involved in the takeover is ridiculously far-fetched.’
You're being way to subtle.

It's a really effing stupid suggestion
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:57 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:52 pm
That's quite striking; a full calendar year and only one vacancy. I wonder when that last happened in the top flight?
It's usually Watford who do their best to ensure it never happens :lol:
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:01 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:52 pm
That's quite striking; a full calendar year and only one vacancy. I wonder when that last happened in the top flight?
There is always the possibility that terms on offer weren't good enough.
And there are plenty of championship clubs which may have been interested.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:55 pm
I’ll say it again;

’Like I say, the idea that Dyche is in some way involved in the takeover is ridiculously far-fetched.’
You can italicise it as much as you like, but if you look back my point is that the retention of SD as manager is an essential part of ALK’s deal and that it is highly likely that they have sounded him out.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:12 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:06 pm
You can italicise it as much as you like, but if you look back my point is that the retention of SD as manager is an essential part of ALK’s deal and that it is highly likely that they have sounded him out.
I’ve put it in italics because it is a quote of one of my previous posts. I’m not sure how the retention of SD is an essential part of ALK’s deal. SD may well be an essential part of their plans, but the idea that he is involved in any way with the deal is ridiculously far fetched.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:17 pm

Okay let’s move on.

Exciting times.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:31 pm
You'd need to get Linda Block out of Corrie first :D
Fell on hard times has old Linda..... managed a champions league winning club, and got sacked, ended up running a knicker factory. Karen Brady had better watch out.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Richardsbfc » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:38 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:51 pm
One interesting link to ALK's possible source of funds is an American billionaire called 'Jerry' jones who owns Dallas Cowboys, he has links to Dave Checketts who also, coincidently, has direct business links to Stan Kroenke at Arsenal.
Having Jerry Jones involved at any level would be very exciting!
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:47 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:51 pm
One interesting link to ALK's possible source of funds is an American billionaire called 'Jerry' jones who owns Dallas Cowboys, he has links to Dave Checketts who also, coincidently, has direct business links to Stan Kroenke at Arsenal.
Where did you hear this mate? Looked up Jerry Jones. Very brief highlights for those interested:

- Had lots of failed business ventures before a successful oil/gas exploration company. Oddly, given the chat on here recently, jointly owns a “a food, beverage, merchandise, retail and stadium operations corporation serving entertainment venues.”

- Worth $8.4bn.

- Bought Cowboys for $140m and largely credited with making them the most successful NFL team of the 90’s and now worth $5bn, largely through increased TV revenue deals that he held a role in brokering.

- Sacked their manager within weeks and seems to have a reputation for being ruthless and getting involved in team affairs! Be careful what you wish for Sean :lol:

- Likes criticising referees which should come in handy.

- Ties to Kroenke. Jointly owned St Louie Rams.

Will be interesting to see if he is involved. Clearly a big hitter.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:08 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:43 pm
Just realised Alan Pace was a manager at Lehman Brothers

That went well !!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
Hi Hunter, don't make the mistake the Telegraph article makes. "Managing Director" in an investment bank is the title of someone who leads a team within a particular business area. I'd make a guess that there were somewhere around 500 managing directors at Lehman Bros in 2007/08 when a specific part of the business "blew everything up." Alan Pace was nowhere near the sub-prime mortgage activities that bankrupted Lehman Bros (and several other major investment banks and commercial banks. The Telegraph also reports that he was at Lehman Bros for 11 years. I'd make an educated guess that he was promoted to "managing director" for the last 2 0r 3 of those years, only.

Exciting times.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by LaLigaClaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:11 am

Most of the posts on this thread have been pointless and whistling in the wind. Whoever takes over it is what it is and all we need to know is when is it going to happen.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:35 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:47 pm
Where did you hear this mate? Looked up Jerry Jones. Very brief highlights for those interested:

- Had lots of failed business ventures before a successful oil/gas exploration company. Oddly, given the chat on here recently, jointly owns a “a food, beverage, merchandise, retail and stadium operations corporation serving entertainment venues.”

- Worth $8.4bn.

- Bought Cowboys for $140m and largely credited with making them the most successful NFL team of the 90’s and now worth $5bn, largely through increased TV revenue deals that he held a role in brokering.

- Sacked their manager within weeks and seems to have a reputation for being ruthless and getting involved in team affairs! Be careful what you wish for Sean :lol:

- Likes criticising referees which should come in handy.

- Ties to Kroenke. Jointly owned St Louie Rams.

Will be interesting to see if he is involved. Clearly a big hitter.
it would be amazing if JJ was involved ! Can't see it though

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by mill hill claret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:42 am

Whoever the backer/backers are ..if they are buying a football club for a reported price of 200m they are very wealthy..I hope this time we really do have to fasten our seatbelts 😁😁...UTC

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by superdimitri » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:10 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:11 am
Most of the posts on this thread have been pointless and whistling in the wind. Whoever takes over it is what it is and all we need to know is when is it going to happen.
I thought this was a given. This is a football discussion forum, not the Burnley FC press release page.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by yatesybase » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:06 am

Ended up diverting to Liverpool because Manchester was closed due to snow, If our new owners are onboard I hope they don’t get put off by the diversion of Ken Dodd International to start there day.


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Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Could well be related to Our take over, A Executive Jet a Gulfstream 450 is due in Manchester Airport at 0812 (Tuesday) from Teterbro (Executive Airport in New Jersey, New York) were ALK Capital are based , Can be tracked on the app Flightradar24 N450QS operated by Net Jets (The Uber of the skys).

Like I say it could not be related to Burnley FC, but the timings with the take over seem to be a coincidence.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claret2018 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:15 am

I hope the takeover goes through quickly before the season gets pulled.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:18 am

No reason whatsoever to pull the season this time round. Things are much different than in March and I personally ally think it would be a nonsense to pull it again.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:41 am

If virus infections aren’t brought under control we could easily see a suspension like last time ( maybe for a shorter period) and this would be the right thing to do.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Targetman » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:50 am

claret2018 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:15 am
I hope the takeover goes through quickly before the season gets pulled.
Haven't you already predicted that the season will end after todays fixtures or have I misunderstood that?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:56 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:41 am
If virus infections aren’t brought under control we could easily see a suspension like last time ( maybe for a shorter period) and this would be the right thing to do.
Why would it?

Why is a handful of Premier League footballers getting a positive test causing a problem?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:03 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:47 pm
IFAB has very definitely not been around that long and they don't have involvement from TV or the PL.
Your IFAB must be a very different one to the one I know about then Tony.

The International Football Association Board (IFAB) is the body that determines the Laws of the Game of association football. IFAB was founded in 1886 to agree standardised Laws for international competition, and has since acted as the "guardian" of the internationally used Laws. Since its establishment in 1904, FIFA, the sport's top governing body, has recognised IFAB's jurisdiction over the Laws.[1] IFAB is known to take a highly conservative attitude regarding changes to the Laws of the Game.[2]

The last sentence above made me laugh. 'Conservative.'

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:07 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:03 am
Your IFAB must be a very different one to the one I know about then Tony.

The International Football Association Board (IFAB) is the body that determines the Laws of the Game of association football. IFAB was founded in 1886 to agree standardised Laws for international competition, and has since acted as the "guardian" of the internationally used Laws. Since its establishment in 1904, FIFA, the sport's top governing body, has recognised IFAB's jurisdiction over the Laws.[1] IFAB is known to take a highly conservative attitude regarding changes to the Laws of the Game.[2]

The last sentence above made me laugh. 'Conservative.'
Already posted my response above

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:14 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:07 am
Already posted my response above
You said IFAB "Certainly hasn't been around that long." Looks like you were wrong.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:15 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:14 am
You said IFAB "Certainly hasn't been around that long." Looks like you were wrong.
As I've just posted, see my post above.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Nonayforever » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:25 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:35 am
it would be amazing if JJ was involved ! Can't see it though
Another link, although tenuous, is a company called Bewicks Sports here in the UK, they are J Rods agents, are agents for many American players and also have links to ALK.
I'm certainly not saying they are anything whatsoever involved in the takeover but they would certainly provide a bit of glue to cement a deal together and provide another reason for American investment.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:26 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:15 am
As I've just posted, see my post above.
I've scrolled through three pages without seeing anything relevant. Perhaps you'd like to re post?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretMov » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:28 am

From someone Itk at the club told me last night (you can think its b/s if you want) they tried to have the deal in place just before the Leeds game but a very last minute technical hitch has delayed it for a few days so 2021 could be a fantastic start of a new era for the Clarets

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by brexit » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:28 am

Too much cr*p for me to scroll through here but here is my information.

Alan Price was in Don't Look Back (Dylan tour film)
Micheal Bailey Associates are Data Scientist recruitment experts
Sean Dyche was born in Kettering
Carol Kane lives in Stafford
Boohoo is built on the old Calder Vale Ground.

The pattern is obvious.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretMov » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:28 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:26 am
I've scrolled through three pages without seeing anything relevant. Perhaps you'd like to re post?
I looked also and again found nothing

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:40 am

https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboa ... b#p1451316

Not that difficult if you use search facility
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretMov » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:55 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:40 am
https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboa ... b#p1451316

Not that difficult if you use search facility


Thank you Miss Marple

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:56 am

Could they be at tonight’s game? I know Tony said they could be at a home game very soon. Or have I dreamt that? :?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:00 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:26 am
I've scrolled through three pages without seeing anything relevant. Perhaps you'd like to re post?
No, I posted my response to another poster. But not sure why this thread is now about refereeing and IFAB - maybe get back to what it's about with the takeover.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:01 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:56 am
Could they be at tonight’s game? I know Tony said they could be at a home game very soon. Or have I dreamt that? :?
Who knows :D

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:02 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:28 am
From someone Itk at the club told me last night (you can think its b/s if you want) they tried to have the deal in place just before the Leeds game but a very last minute technical hitch has delayed it for a few days so 2021 could be a fantastic start of a new era for the Clarets
Been a couple of hitches recently that have delayed it slightly - one at their end and one at ours.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:03 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:01 am
Who knows :D
I detect Tony knows :D

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by joey13 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:08 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:00 am
No, I posted my response to another poster. But not sure why this thread is now about refereeing and IFAB - maybe get back to what it's about with the takeover.
What takeover :o
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Post by Untinted Glasses » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:09 am

Tony has his info . What Tony needs to do though is understand others have info and not jump straight on them suggesting their wrong . Not only does Tony have info, it looks to me that others do to .

Seems like a real power thing to think “ I’m the only one with info” your not . So don’t think your info is the “bee hole” and end all . It’s not, it’s info like others have to

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:13 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:00 am
No, I posted my response to another poster. But not sure why this thread is now about refereeing and IFAB - maybe get back to what it's about with the takeover.
With respect, I said that it was off topic but you continued the responses, and I never mentioned refereeing at all or IFAB until you did. I was talking about the laws being much easier to understand in the 60s and 70s.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:19 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:03 am
I detect Tony knows :D
Obviously I know some things, and I'll repeat that what I've posted on this thread has been my honest view of things at the time, never trying to mislead anyone. There is stuff I'd like to know too and I've done my best to try and find out.

I'm currently sticking with the theme of my recent posts that we are very close. I won't use the word imminent, but very close. I do honestly think, right now, and I could be wrong, that tonight's game will be the last one we play prior to the takeover. But I'm not right, I'm not wrong, it's how I'm viewing things at the moment.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:24 am

Been told the same. In regards to timescales, it happens when it happens, is the finer details that take the time now and sometimes the duration is both out of ALK and the clubs hands sometimes. But it’s very close.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:30 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:19 am
Obviously I know some things, and I'll repeat that what I've posted on this thread has been my honest view of things at the time, never trying to mislead anyone. There is stuff I'd like to know too and I've done my best to try and find out.

I'm currently sticking with the theme of my recent posts that we are very close. I won't use the word imminent, but very close. I do honestly think, right now, and I could be wrong, that tonight's game will be the last one we play prior to the takeover. But I'm not right, I'm not wrong, it's how I'm viewing things at the moment.
Well I will be keeping a close eye on the crowd tonight to see if there are any new faces in BFC masks! The private jet arrival this morning has got me excited. :D

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:31 am

Sorry if I've missed this, I can't say I've given this thread 100% attention.

Is the talk of being "very close" relating to ALK and BFC agreeing terms or the whole thing done and dusted, including PL approval?

If it is just the agreement between ALK & BFC, how long does the PL approval process take?

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:35 am

Just to make Gordaleman feel better and stop the references to IFAB, Tony accepted he was wrong about how long they had existed and said that he stood corrected.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:36 am

Good lord, I hope this takeover works out for the best if it actually happens. The way some are getting so giddy about it, based on a few hints and lots of innuendo, is a little odd at this point. We know precious little about any of it at present, let alone how they actually plan to run the place.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:36 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:31 am
Sorry if I've missed this, I can't say I've given this thread 100% attention.

Is the talk of being "very close" relating to ALK and BFC agreeing terms or the whole thing done and dusted, including PL approval?

If it is just the agreement between ALK & BFC, how long does the PL approval process take?
That’s all but granted and a formality by all accounts.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:39 am

I think the Premier League process can happen long before the deal is agreed as long as the information the PL need is available to them

So, the potential new owners may already have been approved.

I don’t know for sure though

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:40 am

Saw this a few weeks ago - worth a watch - it’s about how football clubs are bought

https://youtu.be/3nJemd_Tzcs

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:42 am

Thanks. I had this idea that it coukd drag on for some time yet while the PL approved it.

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