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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:19 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:16 pm
Time to stop the ******** re Tarkowski. He's off.
We'll need to accept a bid first though. Leicester are rumoured to be looking elsewhere.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Leisure » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:20 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:16 pm
But he stands to make a hell of a lot more when he finally (hopefully soon) does sell.

Garlick stinks.
And!

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:14 pm
Because we have not signed Gibson's replacement. We have had 8 monthes to sort that.
And we have known Ben was likely to not start the season since July and probably that Tarks would not sign an extension.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Stayingup » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm

Does anyone know how Tarks "injured' his toe?

I think its a sham really and he wants to leave. If that is the case hope we get some points tonight and a replcement.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Leisure » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:16 pm
This bench is what you get when you see 4 first team squad players go, and don't react to rectify the shortage of numbers for 3 months.
If it hadn't happened to my club, I'd be pi$$ing my pants laughing.
No, it's what you get when you have 7 injured!

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Bosscat » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:23 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:12 pm
What are you on about
Manchester City a tad short of multimillion pound players .... due to injuries ....

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm
No, it's what you get when you have 7 injured!
Then why is the manager whining

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:07 pm
What can the Chairman do about a spate of injuries? You can't buy players just to cover a few games.
We’ve lost 4 first team players, 3 outfield. He’s had months to correct the situation but he’s signed one player for £1m up front. Moreover, we’ve got two CBs with any kind of PL experience and he’s known that would be the case for 9 months, yet has focussed all his efforts on selling Gibson instead of signing a replacement. It’s an inexcusable disgrace.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:25 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm
Does anyone know how Tarks "injured' his toe?

I think its a sham really and he wants to leave. If that is the case hope we get some points tonight and a replcement.
Dyche said he jarred it in some new boots. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by ewanrob » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm

Luckily it's only the 2nd game of a new season, let's see where we are after the window shuts and we are 12 games in.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by CaptainKirk » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm

There's a lot of bed wetters on here tonight.
Seven out injured.
We are bound to struggle and we are not alone in that respect.
Get real.
PS the window is not shut yet.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 pm
We’ve lost 4 first team players, 3 outfield. He’s had months to correct the situation but he’s signed one player for £1m up front. Moreover, we’ve got two CBs with any kind of PL experience and he’s known that would be the case for 9 months, yet has focussed all his efforts on selling Gibson instead of signing a replacement. It’s an inexcusable disgrace.
Gibson, Hart and Lennon weren't first team players by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:27 pm

Get this ridiculous Tarkowski situation sorted, one way or another, sharpish. Big toe? Give me strength.

It’ll take us at least 4 years to sort a replacement for him to we really need to get cracking.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:28 pm

CaptainKirk wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm
There's a lot of bed wetters on here tonight.
Seven out injured.
We are bound to struggle and we are not alone in that respect.
Get real.
PS the window is not shut yet.
No landing party available captain

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Blyclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:28 pm

Its time to get rid of Tarkowski now. As soon as possible.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Mrpotatohead » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm

Embarrassing bench.

We've all known for 12-18 months that a couple of injuries and we would be scraping the barrel. Nothing has been done to try and rectify this, now we're paying the price. As for the CB fiasco, how long have we known that we wouldn't be seeing Gibson in a Burnley shirt again? A respectable club would've seen another CB brought back in months since.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 pm
We’ve lost 4 first team players, 3 outfield. He’s had months to correct the situation but he’s signed one player for £1m up front. Moreover, we’ve got two CBs with any kind of PL experience and he’s known that would be the case for 9 months, yet has focussed all his efforts on selling Gibson instead of signing a replacement. It’s an inexcusable disgrace.
I'd see a doctor if I was you. You clearly get upset very easily.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm

I'm quite encouraged to be honest, the kids have more than held their own against good opposition. UTC NNN

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:31 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm
Gibson, Hart and Lennon weren't first team players by any stretch of the imagination.
Gibson - 3rd choice CB, Lennon featured regularly from the bench, Hendrick started every game. All 3 very much in and around the first team set up.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm
No, it's what you get when you have 7 injured!
You saying those who left wouldn't be part of today's squad?
You can't legislate for injuries, you can for first team squad players leaving, and you do that by replacing them.
I would bet Hendrick, Lennon and Gibson would likely be starting with Hart on the bench.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by MDWat » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm

Kevin Long isn’t a kid though is he? He’s 30 and not good enough. He should be and has generally always has been 4th choice. He is currently 1st choice.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by mdd2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm

An injury to Wood or Vydra tonight and we have strength in depth. Long up front and Thomas on at centre back. Job done UTC
Just been told Soton not won here since 1970
Anyone think that will change tonight?
Correction, now told that stat is when both teams in the top flight
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm

You lot need to get behind the team. Sick of reading your negativity.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:33 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:27 pm
Get this ridiculous Tarkowski sorted, one way or another, sharpish. Big toe? Give me strength.

It’ll take us at least 4 years to sort a replacement for him to we really need to get cracking.
The problem is that the only club that has bid for him in no way matched our valuation.
I hope SD isn't lying, but if he is will any club come in for JT? We could be stuck with another unhappy player.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by clarethomer » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:33 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm
I'm quite encouraged to be honest, the kids have more than held their own against good opposition. UTC NNN
I think now is the time for us to get the youngsters involved - good for their progression and learning.

I expect Dunne is better off for the last couple of games.

Come on youuuuuuuu claaarets!

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Firthy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:33 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:22 pm
Does anyone know how Tarks "injured' his toe?

I think its a sham really and he wants to leave. If that is the case hope we get some points tonight and a replcement.
Apparently jammed it in the door when keeping it open for a move :roll:
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm
I'd see a doctor if I was you. You clearly get upset very easily.
I am upset about this. Totally inept management to have two CB’s with 30 appearances at this level. Hope they play well of course.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:09 pm
What a sham of a bench that is. Also feel for Brownhill, being shifted out wide because the chairman is a tight arse.
I’m sure he’d rather be out wide than on the bench
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm
You saying those who left wouldn't be part of today's squad?
You can't legislate for injuries, you can for first team squad players leaving, and you do that by replacing them.
I would bet Hendrick, Lennon and Gibson would likely be starting with Hart on the bench.
Lennon and Gibson weren't all that anyhow.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by TVC15 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:31 pm
Gibson - 3rd choice CB, Lennon featured regularly from the bench, Hendrick started every game. All 3 very much in and around the first team set up.
Hendrick wasn’t one of the 3 mentioned.
Gibson, Hart and Lennon between them played how many games in the last 12 months ?

As for Hendrick he didn’t want to sign the contract we offered. You need to get over that fact.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by bfcmatt » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm

How do we play tonight? do you think Dyche will have us playing our usual cautious football or will we be more attacking to take the pressure away from the centre backs.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm
Gibson, Hart and Lennon weren't first team players by any stretch of the imagination.
Your missing the point. Clubs sign back up players for when starters are injured. Cork and Mee were known to be out for start of the season, Gibson was being moved on. So including Hendrick and Lennon, that's 5 key squad places we knew we had issues with. Add Tarks to that and no wonder we have another embarrassing team sheet tonight.

Don't blame injuries, blame whoever sanctioned this pathetic lack of incoming players.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 pm

The shareholders of any business failing to plan to this extent would demand that the Directors or Senior Managers go.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:36 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:31 pm
Gibson - 3rd choice CB, Lennon featured regularly from the bench,
So neither of them first team players then. Glad we agree.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by giveusaB » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:36 pm

Get behind the lads.A 5-0 win puts us 7th.Come on you Clarets.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:36 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 pm
We’ve lost 4 first team players, 3 outfield. He’s had months to correct the situation but he’s signed one player for £1m up front. Moreover, we’ve got two CBs with any kind of PL experience and he’s known that would be the case for 9 months, yet has focussed all his efforts on selling Gibson instead of signing a replacement. It’s an inexcusable disgrace.
We’ve lost one first team player, a sub goalie and an ineffective sub. Bizarre how many people that slated Lennon are now lamenting his absence.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Safron » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:36 pm

Anyone not think that given a good run that dunne might just be a good un?

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:37 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 pm
Your missing the point. Clubs sign back up players for when starters are injured. Cork and Mee were known to be out for start of the season, Gibson was being moved on. So including Hendrick and Lennon, that's 5 key squad places we knew we had issues with. Add Tarks to that and no wonder we have another embarrassing team sheet tonight.

Don't blame injuries, blame whoever sanctioned this pathetic lack of incoming players.
I'm not missing anything. Newclaret said we've lost 4 first team players, I was saying that isn't true.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm
Lennon and Gibson weren't all that anyhow.
I totally agree, yet they'd likely have started tonight. Puts it into perspective really.

Anyway, I fancy a scrappy 1-0 win tonight.

C'MON BURNLEY :D

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:38 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:36 pm
So neither of them first team players then. Glad we agree.
Oh dear. A first team does not, by any stretch of the imagination, end with the 11 players who start a game.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by BleedingClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:06 pm
5 injuries? Why should he be ashamed?
7 really that would be in the team or on the bench
Tarks ?
Mee
Cork
JBG
Brady
Jay Rod
Barnes

So agreed and some

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:39 pm

"Does anyone know how Tarkowski injured his toe"?

This little piggy went to market (the transfer market) :)

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:39 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm
An injury to Wood or Vydra tonight and we have strength in depth. Long up front and Thomas on at centre back. Job done UTC
Just been told Soton not won here since 1970
Anyone think that will change tonight?
We haven't lost any of our last seven PL games against them.

Maybe we had stronger teams out than tonight though?

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:40 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:32 pm
You lot need to get behind the team. Sick of reading your negativity.
We are all behind the team.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:41 pm

It is what it is. Nothing we can do. Let's just be a bit more positive and get behind the players involved tonight. I'm sure they will all be doing their best.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:42 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:34 pm
Hendrick wasn’t one of the 3 mentioned.
Gibson, Hart and Lennon between them played how many games in the last 12 months ?

As for Hendrick he didn’t want to sign the contract we offered. You need to get over that fact.
The point is we’ve lost three outfield players and signed one. They were all part of the first team set-up and strength of the squad. Our squad is undoubtedly weaker now and we’ve done very little to strengthen it, hence being in a situation where our CB pairing has 30 or so PL games between them.

If you don’t think that is poor management, fair enough, but I do.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Willy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:44 pm

Embarrassing bench?
3 of them young lads deserve to be there after their displays against Millwall with one of them even pushing to start ahead of Kevin Long!
All enhances our growing reputation for developing young,talented players. UTC
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:47 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:28 pm
Its time to get rid of Tarkowski now. As soon as possible.
I agree if he wants to go then let him go, of course he could be genuinely injured, but it's peculiar this 'injury' only reared it's head when the interest from Leicester and West Ham increased.

The nightmare scenario for us, is he goes at the 11th hour, and we don't have time to get a replacement through the door, so if he's heading for pastures new, then let's get it sorted and start getting 2-3 bodies through the door. we don't need a huge influx, just a CB, RB, RW, if we can get competition in those positions we'll be well placed to have another decent season, Tarks or no Tarks.
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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:48 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:38 pm
Oh dear. A first team does not, by any stretch of the imagination, end with the 11 players who start a game.
It does when SD is manager.

Even if it doesn't, Lennon, Gibson and Hart played less than 500 minutes between them last season, so not first team players by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Starting Lineup

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:49 pm

No excuse to not replace sick notes like Brady and jbg. They're always injured and can't play 10 games in a row. We should compensate for that and saying we have 7 injuries is nonsense

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