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Re: Bamford

Post by tim_noone » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:50 pm

Always said hed come back and bite us on the Ar$e and he has...

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Re: Bamford

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:40 pm

The Observer report in yesterday's game suggests Pulis tol him to beef up and get harder.

Maybe it took that and a bit of realisation that about half a dozen clubs being the same then its likely you need to look in the mirror too.

But even now its "I was so misunderstood but now im so much better off and that's why I'm doing well. Hes a whiny **** and I've no time for him. If he does it again next season I might cut him some slack but I've talked to Leeds fans and they are as surprised s anyone that he has done so well this season. There's been no evidence of this super striker up to now
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Re: Bamford

Post by superdimitri » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:02 pm

You only hear one side of the story, no one knows the manner he approached Dyche, or his attitude. Either way the guy doesn't seem to have anything against the club, so credit to him. I expected him to celebrate wildly after his goal against us.

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Re: Bamford

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:25 pm

CHEWBACCA wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:58 am
Interesting read,especially about what Sean said -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... bILHRYG8p4
Nothing wrong with taking your Mum & Dad to interviews,I took mine to loads of Police interviews
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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:30 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:25 pm
Nothing wrong with taking your Mum & Dad to interviews,I took mine to loads of Police interviews
At 22 :)
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Re: Bamford

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:32 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:30 pm
At 22 :)
:lol: my mum still comes to my Police interviews to this day.
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Re: Bamford

Post by tim_noone » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:38 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:30 pm
At 22 :)
:lol:

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Re: Bamford

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:48 pm

I remember that Alex Ferguson always liked to see his new recruits with their parents. He believed it was important to get to know the family of his player in order to manage them most effectively.

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Re: Bamford

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:52 pm

I'm no fan of Bamford....he claims Dyche took the Mickey out of him for bringing his parents to a interview....i really cant see anything wrong with bringing your parents but thats just me
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Re: Bamford

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:57 pm

I don’t mind Bamford. He’s a decent bloke and playing well this year. With Burnley, he was at the wrong club at the wrong time for him. Charlie Taylor also went to private school I believe.

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Re: Bamford

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:24 pm

Agree, seems like a decent lad who just wants to play football, good luck to his England ambitions hopefully his goals will help relegate some of our rivals.

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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:29 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:52 pm
I'm no fan of Bamford but if what he says is true it sounds like he was bullied in his time at the Turf.....which in my eyes is never ever right ,and I'm sure anyone who has been bullied would agree
Not sure we need to be trotting out the bullying line as we haven’t heard anything like that sort of thing in the last 8 years from anyone, let alone Bamford himself. TBH I find it amazing that any young lad would want to take their parents to what is actually a form of job interview when they are in their twenties and I think it says a lot about him (which is what Dyche was likely saying).
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Re: Bamford

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:59 pm

not everyone is rock hard and worldly wise at 22 , or older. nowt wrong with a young lad having parental input whatever age really. He is a very good footballer, that's all that matters.
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Re: Bamford

Post by agreenwood » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:16 am

Let’s not forget that this wasn’t the first time in Bamford’s career that he complained publicly about not being picked or that he was upset. He made similar comments about his time at Palace and ended up having to apologise.

He was also unhappy during his second stint at Boro.
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Re: Bamford

Post by JTClaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:20 pm

Bringing parents to a signing is a weird one. It's not really a job interview, actually more like a graduation - He'd already got the job.
Dyche likes to know the player, Bamford was very family orientated, for what ever reason, but that's hardly a bad thing.

The only thing it really does is show Bamford needs support and isn't/wasn't ready to take the world on on his own.
Maybe Dyche didn't play him or like him because he needs to work with stronger personalities, or old school personalities.

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Re: Bamford

Post by Zlatan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:28 pm

Bamford always came across as a spoilt child from what I could see, and he appears to have matured a lot recently - which is good for him and I wish him well.

I’m not sure I believe the newspaper article as gospel and there has to be an alternative viewpoint. For a young player from a “top” club asking Dyche why he’s not in the team seems rather petulant to me and perhaps the response he garnered was maybe a little deserved even if it was “word for word”. I do suspect if Dyche used those words it would have been tongue in cheek and misunderstood by Bamford
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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:35 pm

The fact that he’s still banging on about it whether the article is absolutely spot on or not says a lot about him also. Given his current form and success at his current club someone that has matured could maybe have the humility to suggest he made some mistakes during his earlier career rather than harp on about something that shows you still don’t get where someone far more worldly wise than yourself was coming from....
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Re: Bamford

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:40 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:28 pm
Bamford always came across as a spoilt child from what I could see, and he appears to have matured a lot recently - which is good for him and I wish him well.

I’m not sure I believe the newspaper article as gospel and there has to be an alternative viewpoint. For a young player from a “top” club asking Dyche why he’s not in the team seems rather petulant to me and perhaps the response he garnered was maybe a little deserved even if it was “word for word”. I do suspect if Dyche used those words it would have been tongue in cheek and misunderstood by Bamford
Whatever happened between them 2 doesn’t escape the fact since he’s left he’s kicked on & we didn’t do so bad without him, nobody knows for sure what actually happened but what we do know for sure is that we wasn’t the only loan club where things didn’t work out for him, last Saturdays opponents spring to mind being 1 of them, I personally don’t think it’s helpful to look back & analyse what went wrong, it’s frustrating to a degree as he’s playing so well now, but it just 1 of them things.
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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:45 pm

JTClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:20 pm
Bringing parents to a signing is a weird one. It's not really a job interview, actually more like a graduation - He'd already got the job.
Taking the point that he had already got the job, who takes their parents to their first day at work....

Someone with maturity would have left their parents in the car or in the hotel or left them to explore the glorious Lancashire countryside if they were needed to hold his hand on the trip.

This was also a loan deal and not a permanent signing which makes turning up with your parents even more weird. He had already been shunted around the country by Chelsea and should have been used to it. This was a young man earning 20 grand a week who wanted (allegedly) the club to sort out all his DDs for utilities and lodgings etc. Pretty much as Dyche says...born with a silver spoon in his mouth
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Re: Bamford

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:10 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:45 pm
Taking the point that he had already got the job, who takes their parents to their first day at work....

Someone with maturity would have left their parents in the car or in the hotel or left them to explore the glorious Lancashire countryside if they were needed to hold his hand on the trip.

This was also a loan deal and not a permanent signing which makes turning up with your parents even more weird. He had already been shunted around the country by Chelsea and should have been used to it. This was a young man earning 20 grand a week who wanted (allegedly) the club to sort out all his DDs for utilities and lodgings etc. Pretty much as Dyche says...born with a silver spoon in his mouth
Ok I get it you dislike Bamford.as for the silver spoon comment by you are you a tad jealous of his wealth ...what ever has being wealthy got to do with anything?

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Re: Bamford

Post by MRG » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:12 pm

Mark my words, Bamford will go down in history in the football world as a trial blazer before he retires.

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Re: Bamford

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:37 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:16 am
Let’s not forget that this wasn’t the first time in Bamford’s career that he complained publicly about not being picked or that he was upset. He made similar comments about his time at Palace and ended up having to apologise.

He was also unhappy during his second stint at Boro.
Didn't he also have to apologise for comments he made about Norwich?

As for his parents coming when he signed - so did Michael Keane's and so did Josh Brownhill's.

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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:11 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:10 pm
Ok I get it you dislike Bamford.as for the silver spoon comment by you are you a tad jealous of his wealth ...what ever has being wealthy got to do with anything?
Err not really...most footballers have greater earnings than most people...some of them deserve it too given the hard work and dedication needed. I suspect Keane and Brownhill didn’t expect their DD’s to be sorted etc too suggesting certain levels of maturity and not expecting the club to wipe your backside. As for the comment about silver spoon that was in the article allegedly from Bamford himself and I quoted it...I may or may not agree with it :)

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Re: Bamford

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:30 pm

Ahh wally...nice of you to take me back to the eighties

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Re: Bamford

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:34 pm

I know its a long while since can anyone remember if Ben Mee rocked up at the Turf with Ma & Pa when he signed on the dotted line for us 😯

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Re: Bamford

Post by agreenwood » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:37 pm
Didn't he also have to apologise for comments he made about Norwich?

As for his parents coming when he signed - so did Michael Keane's and so did Josh Brownhill's.
Yep. We weren’t the only team during that 3 year spell that he struggled at. Complaining publicly about not being picked and apparently taking little responsibility for that does nothing to dispel Dyche’s comments about him not having the right attitude.

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Re: Bamford

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:04 pm

Over 4 years since he left and he still sobs, made of strong stuff is Patrick

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Re: Bamford

Post by chekhov » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:24 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:04 pm
Over 4 years since he left and he still sobs, made of strong stuff is Patrick
Do you never cry, claretonthecoast?
It’s very healthy you know.

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Re: Bamford

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:27 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:24 pm
Do you never cry, claretonthecoast?
It’s very healthy you know.
Close on Saturday when Wait Here was pipped at Naas while being on at 16/1, but being able to get 29/10 on Burnley stopped me :D

I imagine Patrick is very healthy then, if I was to cry it wouldn't be about something said about me 4 year ago

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Re: Bamford

Post by chekhov » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:25 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:27 pm
Close on Saturday when Wait Here was pipped at Naas while being on at 16/1, but being able to get 29/10 on Burnley stopped me :D

I imagine Patrick is very healthy then, if I was to cry it wouldn't be about something said about me 4 year ago
Crying is traditionally seen as a sign of weakness in a man. It’s a shame as it has led to a lot of suppressed emotion and particularly anger, plus aggression. This equals a lot mental health problems, suicide etc.
I don’t think it matters whether you cry about something from yesterday or something from your childhood. It’s all good, and preferable to taking things out on your family, or doing harm to yourself.
I’m lucky I haven’t felt the need to cry for a while, and actually it’s something I find hard to do. But I do recollect often feeling better for releasing my emotions.
Bottom line re. Bamford is that it seems unfair to judge someone on the basis of them admitting to crying.

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