Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

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Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:30 am

According to this article, thoughts?

https://www.football365.com/news/sean-d ... ing-circus

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Stalbansclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:35 am

I love this club and will always be a devoted Claret but it's perhaps difficult to argue with the general tone of the article. Having said that I am prone to the gloomy outlook after we have lost a couple of games ....if we'd managed to win on Saturday I might feel differently.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:36 am

I can only assume that Burnley stuffed Sarah Winterburn's team at some stage, and she's never forgiven us.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:37 am

No one like us, we don’t care.
Same bollcocks different year. We are AlWAYS written off.... THEY are always wrong, eventually they will get lucky but not this season. I believe we will finish comfortably safe.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by edlass » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:38 am

It says alot about Southampton doesn't it. Apart from the goal I don't remember us not being able to "contain danny ings".

Also, are we run like a championship club? There's defi itely things wrong but that's a bit harsh

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:41 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:36 am
I can only assume that Burnley stuffed Sarah Winterburn's team at some stage, and she's never forgiven us.
Or she's been stuffed by a few Burnley fans.
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:44 am

"roll of the Dyche" ...I stopped reading at this point. Is she a schoolgirl?

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by aggi » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:48 am

She's a Huddersfield fan from what I remember. The article doesn't seem that controversial.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by daveisaclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:50 am

Clickbait headline aside, it's a pretty sensible summary of the position the club and Dyche are in. Particularly odd to see sexist responses in this thread, I think.
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:50 am

Reminds me of a sneering Pritti Patel.
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Swizzlestick » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am

Most of the article is pretty fair though unnecessary ending. People whinge about the big clubs winning everything and hoovering players up, but don't want unfashionable clubs like Burnley competing in the PL either.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by dsr » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:54 am

She likes Dyche, so she likes the style of football, so presumably what she doesn't like is that we haven't as much money to spend as other clubs.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:07 am

A reasonable summary based on what is heard from our manager at pretty much every press conference

The fact that Garlick publically hides away from the issues raised still adds fuel to the fire of statements like this

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:17 am

For the first time in a long time, the club is a bit of a soap opera at the moment. It's showing the tendancies, of those basket case clubs that I usually expect us to finish above. The article seems fair. The comments from other fans below, less so. West Ham fans - some of the worst. Never won anything, and have a massive sense of entitlement. "If I watched that every week I'd stop going" - West Ham.... not Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Man Utd - bloody West Ham. And still going. Clowns.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:32 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:07 am
A reasonable summary based on what is heard from our manager at pretty much every press conference

The fact that Garlick publically hides away from the issues raised still adds fuel to the fire of statements like this
Jamie Carragher went mental about the Fulham CEO (owners son) going on twitter last night. Saying they should be know where near social media telling the fans about plans and transfer strategies etc..

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:35 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:17 am
For the first time in a long time, the club is a bit of a soap opera at the moment. It's showing the tendancies, of those basket case clubs that I usually expect us to finish above. The article seems fair. The comments from other fans below, less so. West Ham fans - some of the worst. Never won anything, and have a massive sense of entitlement. "If I watched that every week I'd stop going" - West Ham.... not Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Man Utd - bloody West Ham. And still going. Clowns.
I didn't enjoy the performance on Saturday with all the long ball lumping, I certainly would of switched off if it was a club I never supported.
So how you expect opposition fans to enjoy it I don't know?

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Belial » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:44 am

aggi wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:48 am
She's a Huddersfield fan from what I remember. The article doesn't seem that controversial.
Ah...because playing the of Huddersfield worked out well for them in their brief forage into the top league didn't it. We played alright against them too from what I can remember.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:02 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:35 am
I didn't enjoy the performance on Saturday with all the long ball lumping, I certainly would of switched off if it was a club I never supported.
So how you expect opposition fans to enjoy it I don't know?
That's the futility of picking one performance to base your argument around. Have you seen where West Ham have finished, and the football they play? Long diagonal outball to Antonio. They have seen some good performances from Burnley, we've played them off the park a few times down there.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Corky » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:10 pm

That is just like the tired old drivel that visiting managers trot out about us. We are who we are and if we had a bit of money we would be somebody else!
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:02 pm
That's the futility of picking one performance to base your argument around. Have you seen where West Ham have finished, and the football they play? Long diagonal outball to Antonio. They have seen some good performances from Burnley, we've played them off the park a few times down there.
Oh don't get me wrong I could rip West Ham to pieces.
If we needed a win on the turf to stay up then West Ham would be my first choice of opponents.

But I can definitely see why opposition fans don't like our style.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:14 pm

I know it’s not related to football but I’ve just looked up a picture of her and she looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every ugly branch on the way down, if that makes you feel better?
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by martin_p » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 pm
Oh don't get me wrong I could rip West Ham to pieces.
If we needed a win on the turf to stay up then West Ham would be my first choice of opponents.

But I can definitely see why opposition fans don't like our style.
The point at which I start worrying about what opposition fans think about our style is the point I’ll know I’m not really interested in Burnley anymore, thankfully I couldn’t give a ****!

While the article is reasonably fair in reporting our current situation it isn’t helped by it’s sneering tone.

Still, as I said, water off a ducks back to me.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by aggi » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:37 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:50 am
Clickbait headline aside, it's a pretty sensible summary of the position the club and Dyche are in. Particularly odd to see sexist responses in this thread, I think.
Is this the first time you've been on this messageboard?
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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:02 pm
That's the futility of picking one performance to base your argument around. Have you seen where West Ham have finished, and the football they play? Long diagonal outball to Antonio. They have seen some good performances from Burnley, we've played them off the park a few times down there.
That ain't one performance mate it's 4 years of hoofball that has put many Burnley fans off never mind other fans.

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Post by Jenny55 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:25 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:14 pm
I know it’s not related to football but I’ve just looked up a picture of her and she looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every ugly branch on the way down, if that makes you feel better?

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Post by martin_p » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:33 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm
That ain't one performance mate it's 4 years of hoofball that has put many Burnley fans off never mind other fans.
Put them off what? Attending matches? We’re our crowds down before lockdown happened?

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:48 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm
That ain't one performance mate it's 4 years of hoofball that has put many Burnley fans off never mind other fans.
Probably a good job it's put some off..... it's a struggle to get any more in the ground. And if they're put off by this, imagine how far away they'll be when it's not the best time to support the club in many a generation.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:33 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm
That ain't one performance mate it's 4 years of hoofball that has put many Burnley fans off never mind other fans.
Get yourself off & support/slag off another team.....Simple!
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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:37 pm

Articles like this show that some journalists seem to only think of football as being able to pass a ball around ---no matter what the end product is. This is the modern game where you must have at least 1000 passes per game, even if 900 of them are across the back four,
Last weekend, Brighton 53%: Burnley 53%: Man City 72%: Wolves 63% and Fulham 65% ---all lost!
Chelsea 76% and Spurs 66% both drew.
Both Southampton and Newcastle had only 1 shot on target but one won and the other drew.
That is the nature of football, the game has changed and is still changing, however, the objective is to score more than your opponents and hopefull that will never change ----although I wouldn't guarantee that!

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:38 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:33 pm
Put them off what? Attending matches? We’re our crowds down before lockdown happened?
ST renewals were down.

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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:39 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:33 pm
Get yourself off & support/slag off another team.....Simple!
Nee thanks.

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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:40 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:48 pm
Probably a good job it's put some off..... it's a struggle to get any more in the ground. And if they're put off by this, imagine how far away they'll be when it's not the best time to support the club in many a generation.
That's a lie as we only sellout once or twice a season.

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Post by martin_p » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:20 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:38 pm
ST renewals were down.
Attendances weren’t.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:21 pm

and some thought DFS was shite

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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:43 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:20 pm
Attendances weren’t.
Weren't sold out either :D

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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:44 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:21 pm
and some thought DFS was shite
You stay on the coast and leave this for the real fans who actually attend games.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:45 pm

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:44 pm
You stay on the coast and leave this for the real fans who actually attend games.
Ok kid

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Spijed » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Who cares what other fans think about our style of play?

Are we supposed to just turn up and let the other side win by playing pretty football?

Didn't do Bournemouth much good did it?

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Post by LS7 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:59 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:14 pm
I know it’s not related to football but I’ve just looked up a picture of her and she looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every ugly branch on the way down, if that makes you feel better?
That is completely out of order. Totally unnecessary.
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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:36 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:45 pm
Ok kid
:roll:

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Sleeping Cat » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:25 am

The author seems to not like us in this article from a few years back, which has not aged well. Several digs at our club, particularly the one about club history.

https://www.football365.com/news/boro-m ... -by-europe

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Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:47 am

Her articles do seem to come laced with a large streak of jealousy when it comes to the clarets!

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Post by Untinted Glasses » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:55 am

She might not like us but I cannot argue with any of her points. It's such a frustrating club, I cannot believe we still have Sean Dyche as manager. I hope for his sake a more ambitious club come and take him away. I'd like to see how far he can progress

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by aggi » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:57 am

Sleeping Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:25 am
The author seems to not like us in this article from a few years back, which has not aged well. Several digs at our club, particularly the one about club history.

https://www.football365.com/news/boro-m ... -by-europe
That article aged badly!

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Post by joey13 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:01 am

Ok , own up who’s Jonny ?

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Post by levraiclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:27 am

CFS wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm
That ain't one performance mate it's 4 years of hoofball that has put many Burnley fans off never mind other fans.
What were you just saying about Otamendi being better than Tarks?

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by dsr » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:50 am

aggi wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:57 am
That article aged badly!
Even then it didn't make sense, praising Karanka for signing Spaniards while criticising Dyche for signing an Icelander.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:54 am

"Indeed, Burnley manager Dyche has spent more on two players relegated from the Championship with Charlton this summer than Karanka has spent on a Spanish triptych with extensive La Liga experience."

Oh dear.

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Re: Burnley - The most boring circus in the North West

Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:02 pm

Notice how Sarah doesn’t even consider how much Boro were paying the ‘Spanish triptych with extensive La Liga experience’ in salaries.

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Post by aggi » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:02 pm
Notice how Sarah doesn’t even consider how much Boro were paying the ‘Spanish triptych with extensive La Liga experience’ in salaries.
To be fair that was the sentence after your quote Wages are of course an issue with Boro choosing to spend more extensively than the frugal Clarets

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