Shipman.....

[tim_noone]

TV Programme.... any one watching ? Any views.

[mdd2]

Psychopath whose actions caused wholesale changes which will do nothing to prevent another murdering doctor IMO but has caused a great deal of valuable time being wasted on red tape instead of helping the sick.

[MACCA]

It's been on in the background, but like crimewatch is these days, nothings really sickening and gripping. In fact it's quite boring.

Might need to watch again with my full attention.

[HunterST_BFC]

I've learned a few new things...

Tod' for eg.
Won't add more as it's better watched than "spoiled" although spoiled is hardly the right word to use.

It's makes you think.

[HunterST_BFC]

edit - accidental dupe post.
(Why does this keep happening?)

[CleggHall]

Shipman syringed my ear out in Tod in 1975 and then aggressively picked an argument with me about the state of my ear. My explanation that this was the first syringing in my life was unacceptable to him but, all told, I guess I had a lucky escape!

[Wellsy1882]

Was an apprentice boxer back in his younger days

[mdd2]

Apart from the obvious he was quite a good apparently and certainly kept up to date by attending meetings etc.
He just had a fatal flaw or two hundred.
In the, I think 1950's, a Dr John Bodkin Adams got off a charge of murdering some of his older ladies.There were over 100 suspicious deaths investigated by the police but he was found not guilty of the charges. The trial did however establish the so called double effect which until Harold did allow an earlier more peaceful death arising from the sedative drugs prescribed to ease suffering. Although the use of the drug(s) was intended to ease suffering it (they) may hasten death but are not primarily given to hasten death. Harold's journey and Dame Smith's inquisition has made palliation more of a problem as I witnessed with my wife's uncle who was made to suffer in my opinion unnecessarily due to a fear of giving morphine to someone not in pain.

[tim_noone]

Some folk slip away quietly... some linger and suffer terrible in Death.....some people travel to Switzerland.

[mdd2]

Some folk slip away quietly... some linger and suffer terrible in Death.....some people travel to Switzerland.

And when many get Covid-19 all hell breaks lose.

[Steve1956]

TV Programme.... any one watching ? Any views.

Shipman was a knob! That's my view anyway.

[tim_noone]

Shipman was a knob! That's my view anyway.

Hes in good Company then steve.or was

[Steve1956]

Hes in good Company then steve.or was

I cant ever recall being in Shipman's company Tim,have you met him?

[Pimlico_Claret]

Knew of a bloke who served on the jury. It wasn't unanimous, a couple of old ladies refused to believe that a doctor could commit a crime(s).

[tim_noone]

I cant ever recall being in Shipman's company Tim,have you met him?

Big Burnley Fan....used to drink in the flying horse in Rawtenstall.

[BurnleyFC]

Big Burnley Fan....used to drink in the flying horse in Rawtenstall.

Wasn’t he the founding member of the Burnley Homicide Squad?

[NottsClaret]

All his victims were old or had pre-existing health conditions. So in today’s world, they’re fair game I’d say.

[Chobulous]

There was talk at the time of a film being made with Robert de Niro playing Shipman, but The Old Dear Hunter somehow seemed inappropriate.

[jrgbfc]

Knew of a bloke who served on the jury. It wasn't unanimous, a couple of old ladies refused to believe that a doctor could commit a crime(s).

Doesn't surprise me. A lot of the older generation seem to have the belief that doctors and solicitors are godlike figures who can't be questioned.

[FactualFrank]

To think he was only found out due to forging a will of one of his patients. Scary to think had he not done that.

[2 Bee Holed]

In the, I think 1950's, a Dr John Bodkin Adams got off a charge of murdering some of his older ladies.There were over 100 suspicious deaths investigated by the police but he was found not guilty of the charges.

This got me researching, thanks for this.

I had thought Shipman was the first. The cases are strikingly similar.
You now have to question the GMC, it is even more baffling why Shipman
wasn't struck off whilst in Todmorden.

[CleggHall]

He was allowed to slip through the net on many occasions and continue murdering innocent patients for far too long. Should have been put away and struck off in 1976 in Todmorden but the GMC bottled it thereby allowing so many more deaths in Hyde. A truly wicked man, a control freak, a narcissist, evil specimen - the world is a better place without him.

[mikeS]

I Watched the Shipman programme last night. Britains biggest mass murderer hiding in plain view. Chilling

[Billy Balfour]

His nickname, for want of a better word, was Dr Death. It was an open secret for years that something was amiss in Hyde. The kowtowing to those who are perceived to be 'higher up' has a lot to answer for.

Another thing about this despicable creature is that he was in control of the time and method of his own demise. I wish he was still rotting in prison because death, to him, was the preferable option and he was in control right to the very end. I feel the same about Fred West. The fact that West didn't even get to justice is a damning indictment on the whole remand system. He should have been watched 24/7.

[aclaretinstevenage]

Having just administered a lethal injection to another victim he stayed for a chat and a cup of tea with the husband!

Cold calculating professional b*****d, as said the GMC should have struck him off for the Todmorden cases but failed, they even told the Police officer to go away it was none of his business rather than let him have his say at the disciplinary hearing. So many mistakes all around in this.