BENSON

[Safron]

great to see the lad get a chance,looks a promising. Player,but now we're out of the cup, will dyche give him a game in the league

[MACCA]

No, but hopefully a loan and higher than league 2 this time.
He needs to step up in level from last season, and play mens football every week

[FactualFrank]

He's going to be 5th choice when Cork returns, but that's how I like it... 4 midfielders going for 2 spots, with a youth player being the 5th.

As mentioned, get him to a good Championship side and who knows, next season he may be a lot nearer to more first team action.

[Wellsy1882]

He wont play if others are fit

[Burnley1989]

Would be good to get him out to a championship side or a top league 1 side

[dpinsussex]

Agree championship would be good for him

[burnley007]

looks decent. But not getting any younger!

[Claretforever]

Isn’t he about 23? He should be in the first team squad, maybe even the 11 if good enough, and Cork should be the one sat on the bench coming in as the old head when required.

[gtclaret]

I look OK for my age, and certainly not getting any younger, do you think I could get a game. I'm only 63

[bennitor]

He is 20. Another loan season then he should be looking at pushing for first team.

[FactualFrank]

looks decent. But not getting any younger!

I've always said we should be going in for players who instead are actually getting younger. It would be a sound investment.

[boatshed bill]

Of late most our loans out have been to L2 or lower, not much use in my opinion.

[ClaretTony]

Of late most our loans out have been to L2 or lower, not much use in my opinion.

Already referred to this on the other thread. Benson, last week, said how much he'd benefited from it and how he's returned a better player. Getting a young lad out to a League Two club as we did with him and Glennon to Grimsby is very beneficial. Not sure how anyone can suggest it is not much use when young lads are getting the opportunity to play first team football.

[Wellsy1882]

Needs better than L2

[BOYSIE31]

You are old enough if you are good enough

[claretonthecoast1882]

You are old enough if you are good enough

What if you are over 32 and good enough ?

[ClaretTony]

Needs better than L2

Now he does yes, but last season that loan move proved to be spot on for him.

[boatshed bill]

Already referred to this on the other thread. Benson, last week, said how much he'd benefited from it and how he's returned a better player. Getting a young lad out to a League Two club as we did with him and Glennon to Grimsby is very beneficial. Not sure how anyone can suggest it is not much use when young lads are getting the opportunity to play first team football.

Totally accept what you say there, but if he's progressed as he says then L2 would no longer be any use. could be a backward step, don't you think?

[Paul Waine]

I look OK for my age, and certainly not getting any younger, do you think I could get a game. I'm only 63

You will be first on the team sheet - when I'm picking the over 60s Clarets Longsiders XI.

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[gtclaret]

You will be first on the team sheet - when I'm picking the over 60s Clarets Longsiders XI.

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I play walking football for over 60s,I also play with over 50s,some of these guys are ex pro. Jesus the speed and first touch is breathtaking

[BOYSIE31]

What if you are over 32 and good enough ?

Depends if you have 9 playing at the same time

[ClaretTony]

Totally accept what you say there, but if he's progressed as he says then L2 would no longer be any use. could be a backward step, don't you think?

Not what I was saying. As I posted on the other thread he himself spoke about how much he’d benefited from going there yet people on this board at the time were suggesting it was a waste of time and probably a way of getting him out of the door. The truth is he’s gained a hell of a lot from going there and playing first team football.

Interesting that Holloway has tried to get him and Glennon back, so far without success.

[boatshed bill]

Not what I was saying. As I posted on the other thread he himself spoke about how much he’d benefited from going there yet people on this board at the time were suggesting it was a waste of time and probably a way of getting him out of the door. The truth is he’s gained a hell of a lot from going there and playing first team football.

Interesting that Holloway has tried to get him and Glennon back, so far without success.

I have to say that i thought the L2 loans were too low standard, but if he benefitted then good for him.
I am saying that another loan at L2 level seems a bit low to aim for.
i would expect Holloway to want any of our 20ish year olds on loan. Especially those who have been in the 1st team squad.

[ClaretTony]

I have to say that i thought the L2 loans were too low standard, but if he benefitted then good for him.
I am saying that another loan at L2 level seems a bit low to aim for.
i would expect Holloway to want any of our 20ish year olds on loan. Especially those who have been in the 1st team squad.

I didn’t ever suggest another League 2 loan

[Clarets4me]

.... for Beds ! Loan move to Luton, perhaps ?

[Paul Waine]

I play walking football for over 60s,I also play with over 50s,some of these guys are ex pro. Jesus the speed and first touch is breathtaking

I was planning on joining a walking football group in March. I'm still planning.... will have a big when I'm able to play again.

[boatshed bill]

I didn’t ever suggest another League 2 loan

CT, you seem to be getting this a bit wrong, i said another L2 loan would be aiming low., not you. And i'm not suggesting otherwise.

[gtclaret]

I was planning on joining a walking football group in March. I'm still planning.... will have a big when I'm able to play again.

Do it, you will never regret it, so much fun

[ClaretTony]

CT, you seem to be getting this a bit wrong, i said another L2 loan would be aiming low., not you. And i'm not suggesting otherwise.

I’m not getting it wrong at all. I made general comments about his loan to Grimsby being positive. Nothing more, nothing less.

[boatshed bill]

I’m not getting it wrong at all. I made general comments about his loan to Grimsby being positive. Nothing more, nothing less.

Whatever.....

[Vegas Claret]

given how he played against Millllllllllllwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal he would be comfortable in the Championship

[ClaretTony]

Whatever.....

No whatevers about it, just read my post on this thread and the other one. I've never suggested anything other than him benefiting from his loan last season at Grimsby which gave him his first opportunity of first team football. It's obvious to anyone that should he go out on loan again we'd be looking to get him higher up.

[rob63]

CT, you seem to be getting this a bit wrong, i said another L2 loan would be aiming low., not you. And i'm not suggesting otherwise.

I get where both you & Tony are on this one, L2 is ok for a 1st loan but we need to be a bit more ambitious for our young players sometimes, for both their & the football club's sake.Benson & Glennon by all accounts both did well & more importantly got game time with Holloway. These relationships are what we should be fostering, so by all means offer him some players from the age level below those two but like you say Benson & Glennon need to step up to, ideally, lower Championship level this time to develop further.

Personally I didn't understand the decision to send Phillips & Cooney back to Morecambe, they got good reports, Phillips got a few goals & assists-isn't he 22/23? So he's really in need of career progression......unless BFC & Morecambe had an agreement for them to return because of their curtailed season, it all seems a bit amateurish.

[jurek]

Benson hasn't looked out of place on the two occasions he's come on in the Cup.
And done enough to warrant being in the squad and possibly on the bench.
We don't quite know when Cork will be back or whether he'll be able to slot
straight back in contention for a start. He could be 4-6 weeks away.
Any injuries to Westwood, Brownhill or Stephens in the meantime would leave us
short so if Benson is to go out on loan it should be an immediate recall if necessary.
A higher division than last time would be beneficial but it probably doesn't matter
as long as he's getting game time.

[bfcmik]

I was planning on joining a walking football group in March. I'm still planning.... will have a big when I'm able to play again.

Do it, you will never regret it, so much fun

It really is good fun and you will be encouraged to play as well as you can - however good, or not quite as good, that may be. I am playing 2 or 3 sessions a week here in Birmingham& Solihull (we started again back in August) and, as I never had much pace when I was younger, I find I am better now than then (at least I can keep up now) -despite being WAY, WAY overweight nowadays. There are some very good players out there, including some ex-pros but I have found them all to be very supportive, except for one, not to be named, individual (in my experience).

[ClaretTony]

I get where both you & Tony are on this one, L2 is ok for a 1st loan but we need to be a bit more ambitious for our young players sometimes, for both their & the football club's sake.Benson & Glennon by all accounts both did well & more importantly got game time with Holloway. These relationships are what we should be fostering, so by all means offer him some players from the age level below those two but like you say Benson & Glennon need to step up to, ideally, lower Championship level this time to develop further.

Personally I didn't understand the decision to send Phillips & Cooney back to Morecambe, they got good reports, Phillips got a few goals & assists-isn't he 22/23? So he's really in need of career progression......unless BFC & Morecambe had an agreement for them to return because of their curtailed season, it all seems a bit amateurish.

Agree totally with you on the Grimsby loans.

[bfcmik]

Benson looks like he could go the distance so I agree that his next loan (if any) should be at a level closer to ours. However, SD and his team have a good understanding of what is needed by these young players, they don't seem to have missed any future stars so far, so I trust them to do what is right for both the player and Burnley Football Club.

[boatshed bill]

No whatevers about it, just read my post on this thread and the other one. I've never suggested anything other than him benefiting from his loan last season at Grimsby which gave him his first opportunity of first team football. It's obvious to anyone that should he go out on loan again we'd be looking to get him higher up.

that's exactly what I was saying. I don't get why you wish to continue an arguement that doesn't exist.
I gave up with it, you obviously haven't.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I would think any chance of him being loaned out is pretty slim with the amount of players we currently have fit and with the potential to lose a few more at any moment with the virus.

[ClaretTony]

that's exactly what I was saying. I don't get why you wish to continue an arguement that doesn't exist.
I gave up with it, you obviously haven't.

I’m not arguing

[boatshed bill]

I’m not arguing

Oh yes you are

[rob63]

Agree totally with you on the Grimsby loans.

Any idea if there was any prior agreement with Morecambe re Cooney & Phillips going back after the curtailment of last season Tony?

[THEWELLERNUT70]

a great prospect but let's not suffocate him too early

A Similar situation to Dunne too (who I really rate)

[ClaretTony]

Any idea if there was any prior agreement with Morecambe re Cooney & Phillips going back after the curtailment of last season Tony?

Nothing I’d heard but it was very quick. Both looked decent in the u23s last season but interestingly we’ve released one right back (Senior) and let two more go out on loan (Cooney & Cropper). Maybe they have high hopes for Elva-Fountaine who has just signed.

[rob63]

Nothing I’d heard but it was very quick. Both looked decent in the u23s last season but interestingly we’ve released one right back (Senior) and let two more go out on loan (Cooney & Cropper). Maybe they have high hopes for Elva-Fountaine who has just signed.

Ok thanks. Yes, he seems to be the man they're concentrating their attention on at the moment

[JohnMac]

I thought Benson would be far too old nowadays.

[Funkydrummer]

Crap manager !!