Your Team vs Newcastle?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:32 am

Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Dunne/Long Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Westwood McNeil
Barnes Wood

Bench to include: BPF, Pieters, Dunne/Long, Benson, Vydra

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:57 am

Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Dunne Taylor
Brady/JBG/Pieters Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Barnes

JBG is my preference if fit. If not then reluctantly Brady.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:02 am

JBG/Brady both look to be out, so didn't include them.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:48 am

Pope, Bardsley, Tarkowski, Peiters, Taylor, Brownhill, Stephens, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Vydra

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:48 am

colne-claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:57 am
Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Dunne Taylor
Brady/JBG/Pieters Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Barnes

JBG is my preference if fit. If not then reluctantly Brady.

This. There's not a lot of choice, really:-
Dunne or long
Vydra or barnes
Peters or Stevens.

Any other options seem unlikely. Vydra coming on for Barnes would probably work better than Barnes coming on for vyds. St. Maximim is injured which means pieters/bardsley probably marking joelinton. Westwood will need to cope with almiron. Our first point in a 0-0.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:49 am

No way should Barnes start after only 1 game. Be extremely harsh on Vydra. The rest of the team picks itself though.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:53 am

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarkowski (usually plays left CH with Long)
Taylor
Brownhill
Stephens
Westwood
McNeil
Vydra
Wood

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:11 am

Same as taio

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarkowski
Taylor
Brownhill
Stephens
Westwood
McNeil
Vydra
Wood

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:13 am

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:49 am
No way should Barnes start after only 1 game. Be extremely harsh on Vydra. The rest of the team picks itself though.

Reckon its 90% certain he will do. Dyche clearly has his favourites, whereas some players have to work extra hard to keep their place and always seem to get dragged off first no matter what.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:39 am

Pope
Bardsley
Dunne
Tarkowski
Taylor
Brownhill
Stephens
Westwood
McNeil
Wood
Vydra

leelad · Post by **leelad** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:19 am

same team as RVclaret. Give Barnes a run out off the bench for the last 20 minutes if we need a different option.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:39 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:39 am
Pope
Bardsley
Dunne
Tarkowski
Taylor
Brownhill
Stephens
Westwood
McNeil
Wood
Vydra

Same for me. I would drop Long for Dunne. We aren't exactly loaded with a wealth of options!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:26 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:13 am
Reckon its 90% certain he will do. Dyche clearly has his favourites, whereas some players have to work extra hard to keep their place and always seem to get dragged off first no matter what.

I can see the argument to start Vydra and if it is Vydra/Wood then that's fair enough.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:43 am

Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Long Taylor
Pieters Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Vydra Wood

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:27 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:53 am
Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarkowski (usually plays left CH with Long)
Taylor
Brownhill
Stephens
Westwood
McNeil
Vydra
Wood

Pretty sure this will be the line up

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:01 pm

Pope
Bardsley Tarks Dunne Taylor
Pieters Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Wood Vydra

I'm happy we got Stephens, but putting him in the middle to shove Brownhill on the wing would be another massive mistake

Lascelles is doubtful, so there might be a shout for Wood and Barnes up front, bring Vydra on when Ash has softened them up a bit.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:25 pm

Pieters is a very good left back but he isn't a midfield player.

I'd go 4-1-3-2 with Stephens protecting the back four which would allow more attacking options for Brownhill and Westwood.

--------------Pope
Bardsley - Long - Tarks - Taylor
------------Stephens
Brownhill - Westwood - McNeil
--------Vydra------ Wood

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:33 pm

Why shouldn't Barnes start. Newcastle have injuries so our main hope is start with Wood/Barnes. Unfortunately Vydra has had ample chances-despite starting in most post lock down games he did not score once in the PL during these 9 or 10 games. Needs too many chances and easily marked out of games, resulting in him being subbed. Just not a serious PL striker

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarks
Taylor
McNeil
Westwood
Stephens
Brownhill
Barnes
Wood

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:01 pm

Mala591 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:25 pm
Pieters is a very good left back but he isn't a midfield player.

I'd go 4-1-3-2 with Stephens protecting the back four which would allow more attacking options for Brownhill and Westwood.

--------------Pope
Bardsley - Long - Tarks - Taylor
------------Stephens
Brownhill - Westwood - McNeil
--------Vydra------ Wood

Brownhill isn't a winger

I don't disagree about Pieters, the real solution is to play the left winger from the U23s, it doesn't matter how good he is, if he is the best fit option we have, he should play.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:07 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:33 pm
Why shouldn't Barnes start. Newcastle have injuries so our main hope is start with Wood/Barnes. Unfortunately Vydra has had ample chances-despite starting in most post lock down games he did not score once in the PL during these 9 or 10 games. Needs too many chances and easily marked out of games, resulting in him being subbed. Just not a serious PL striker

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarks
Taylor
McNeil
Westwood
Stephens
Brownhill
Barnes
Wood

As others have mentioned, Vydra is a good striker, who thrives on balls into the channels, or playing off the shoulder of his marker. Sadly we aren't playing to his strengths so he ends up feeding off scraps. He has missed a few, but so has Wood and JayRod. There's nothing wrong with Vyds that a midfielder with an eye for a pass couldn't cure.

buzzclarets79 · Post by **buzzclarets79** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:15 pm

Its times like these, I think we should be maybe looking at a different set up, we are stuggling for wingers so why play a system with wingers? Think we all know we will line up 4-4-2 as normal but why not try something like a back 3 with wing backs, give Taylor chance to get up and down the left wing, play McNeil behind the two strikers and licence to roam, Brownhill and Westwood the two centre mids. We simply just don't try anything different.

4-4-2 it'll be though.....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:16 pm

I'd say now is the time to stick to what we know and what's been proven to work. I'd only want us trying lots of weird and wonderful formations when we're safe.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:17 pm

No way without SD proving this in pre-season will we go to a back 3

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:22 pm

Pope
Bardsley Tarks long Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Westwood McNeil
Wood Barnes

If JBG or Brady are fit, can’t see them starting

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:27 pm

Time to be picking Dunne over Long if they think he's the future.

Long is dependable but Dunne needs the experience.

buzzclarets79 · Post by **buzzclarets79** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:34 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:16 pm
I'd say now is the time to stick to what we know and what's been proven to work. I'd only want us trying lots of weird and wonderful formations when we're safe.

When we safe? If surely?
Last week vs Saints was shocking, can't see whats going to change this week with essentially just one change to the side.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:17 pm

Barnsey scores more than MV. I desperately want Matěj to score and do well but he's still to do it enough.

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